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| brun sweater |
Posted on 02-10-2010 10:02
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The chances of Contador actually using Clen seems slim? I mean, it's a substance with a relatively high detection time (4-5 days). And being an OOC tested athlete, I doubt Contador would chance taking it. Unless of course, he went training in italian Mexico or sth?
That he blood dopes, is according to me, quite obvious (it's either that or some unknown dope regiment). I doubt they can nail him on the DEHP, as it's not an illegal substance.
In any case, this will take years. First there's the spanish sports authorities letting him go. Then a couple of years later, CAS will have its say. And that's only if UCI chooses to go after him, which I doubt.
Would be fun though, if they made public the amount of DEHP in all samples from TdF. |
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Posted on 02-10-2010 10:07
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issoisso wrote:
Well, you guys ragged on Seppelt.....but now L'Équipe is also reporting that the sample shows extremely high amounts of DEHP
I never said that he lies with this interview.
Just said that he is just looking for bad news in cycling and always makes an extreme story about it. It`s not the first interview with him about cycling and he just tries to destroy it.
Worst thing is that he likes to compare to other sports that there are not many positive tests (so all are clean) and for him this is reason enough to claim cycling and like all other sports. |
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Posted on 02-10-2010 10:46
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i believe contador and nobody can change my mind
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Posted on 02-10-2010 11:00
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Of course you do.
And you spelt Roche wrong in your sig.
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Posted on 02-10-2010 11:19
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Notice it's once again an ex-Bruyneel rider who got caught, and obviously it's again because of a non mastered doping procedure.
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Posted on 02-10-2010 11:34
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Ahhh as always your mind is blurred by your hate for that American guy 
And remember: I'm not anti-French
If you wish to discuss about Buonaparte again that's OK with me 
Edited by Talleyrand on 02-10-2010 11:36
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Posted on 02-10-2010 11:48
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According to the Spanish newspaper 'As', Contador will be banned...
...for 3 months in the off-season. |
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Posted on 02-10-2010 11:54
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Talleyrand wrote:
Ahhh as always your mind is blurred by your hate for that American guy
And remember: I'm not anti-French
If you wish to discuss about Buonaparte again that's OK with me
Napoloen yeah... With your name I gotta ask, are you on his side or not? "You" weren't/aren't exactly known for staying at the same side over time :-p
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Posted on 02-10-2010 11:56
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That works even better than Pavlov's dog : spot Talleyrand around, leave a teasing message about Bruyneel/Armstrong, and here he comes. 
It takes way, way too much faith for an atheist to believe that despite all the smelly things around him, that American guy would almost be the sole big leader from the 90's and 2000's who never doped.
How can you seriously believe that against all evidences ?
Just write it down here if you believe it : "Lance Armstrong never doped through his entire career". Unless I'm mistaking (which I'd be glad to), that's the last stance I know from yours about him.
Fact is that, without becoming notably stronger after they left, many riders from Bruyneel's team got caught doping. Heras, Hamilton, Landis, Contador now, and I may be forgetting a couple of them. As it was heavy doping, and as heavy doping is really efficient, is there the slightest possibility they only started it when they left that famous team ?
I'm not that nationalistic at all either, my opinion about that Bonaparte guy is about as great as other European people opinion about him, 100 worst than the average Frenchman opinion (in all fairness he still did some good things on the internal side).
Well... This is really getting off topic now, if there's a point in it, we should continue that elsewhere (Café Pedro, why not...). |
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Posted on 02-10-2010 11:57
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kumazan wrote:
According to the Spanish newspaper 'As', Contador will be banned...
...for 3 months in the off-season.
Please kill me. |
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Posted on 02-10-2010 12:04
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Heine wrote:
Talleyrand wrote:
Ahhh as always your mind is blurred by your hate for that American guy
And remember: I'm not anti-French
If you wish to discuss about Buonaparte again that's OK with me
Napoloen yeah... With your name I gotta ask, are you on his side or not? "You" weren't/aren't exactly known for staying at the same side over time :-p
Ha, you start an interesting discussion here.
I'm afraid it would be slightly off topic to continue it...
As to changing sides I think the following quote explains this quite clearly: "Treason is a matter of dates"
For further reading see e.g.:
https://www.answer...talleyrand
Under "Quotations" you can find yet more wisdom.
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Posted on 02-10-2010 12:08
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A bit off-topic, but I think Napoleon gets far less credit (except in France) than he deserves becuse of british propaganda. A good example of that is his height, he was acctually average height at that time (small compared to poeple today, but he was a bit higher than the average swedish soldier at the time).
Some good things he did was to reform the law in France (and many other nations in Europe, iirc Belgium and some others still uses a modified version of Code Napoleon), opened up most jewish gettoes (spelling?) in Europe, trough his attack on Egypt we got the discovery of the Rosseta-stone and modernized a backwards Egypt, specially (iirc) the agriculture etc
I know his "reign" was a bloody period with wars all over, but alot of those he inherited from the revolution etc
About Contador, to go ontopic, 3 months ban... Better to just let him go then imo, since that ban will just make poeple laugh even more at the anti-doping work with the same effect
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Posted on 02-10-2010 12:17
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Ah so conquering Europe with a big army, killing millions of mostly young people in the process, and making all your idiot brothers and sisters kings and queens of the conquered nations deserves credit!
You must also be a big fan of Adolf Hitler then because he e.g. had the Autobahns built.
But let's stay on topic: I just saw a pic of Contador's face during the press conference. Hmmm that is clearly a guilty look there on his face.
It's the look I recognize from pics of Joran van der Sloot.
But maybe he is not good at body language things.
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Posted on 02-10-2010 12:26
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Wiggo wrote:
Of course you do.
And you spelt Roche wrong in your sig.
yeah i spelt it like my friends name by accident
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Posted on 02-10-2010 13:01
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3 months ban? That's total flout. Period of superiority of one rider will be then same as before 5-10 years. I hope for better cycling. I hope for 2 years ban and DSQ in this year's Tour de France for Contador. We have identical meter for all riders, right?
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Posted on 02-10-2010 16:32
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Aquarius wrote:
Just write it down here if you believe it : "Lance Armstrong never doped through his entire career".
I have never written that anywhere and most probably never will.
But it's kind of funny to have seen so many say: Armstrong dopes and the others are clean otherwise the Texan could never be so dominant. Hahaha.
If indeed he would have beaten all those now proven dopers while having been clean himself then he would even be a yet greater superchampion than he already is now
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Posted on 02-10-2010 17:06
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In an interview with the Danish TV 2, Contador says that UCI asked him to keep quiet about the positive test. They wanted to handle the case 'internally', he says.
Can't say I'm surprised. |
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Posted on 03-10-2010 14:04
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Now it just makes it look like Contador is doing whatever he can to put pressure on something besides himself.
“The UCI always asked me not to tell anybody”, Contador revealed to Danish network TV2. “It seemed that everything was in order and would be resolved internally. Because of the confidentiality requested by the UCI, I haven’t told anything to Bjarne Riis.” The Spaniard earlier said to Danish newspaper BT: “Perhaps I should have told him sooner, but I decided ultimately that it was best for all parties not to say anything.”
That just sounds like someone backpedaling too me...the more AC talks the more his story gets convoluted and the more guilty he seems. |
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Posted on 03-10-2010 15:46
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CrueTrue wrote:
kumazan wrote:
According to the Spanish newspaper 'As', Contador will be banned...
...for 3 months in the off-season.
Please kill me.
ABC has some more info on the case.
UCI is going for the 3 months ban. WADA, however, will be going for 2 years.
UCI will have its verdict ready in a couple of days. |
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Posted on 03-10-2010 22:06
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I say a 2 year ban, you can't ban Valverde for 2 years who has won a GT like Contador and not him, it would be ludicrous, it shouldn't go on how much of a banned substance you have taken if you have taken it instance 2 year ban, 3 month bans shouldn't existall doping bans 2 years.
Edited by Ste117 on 03-10-2010 22:07
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