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| tastasol |
Posted on 29-04-2020 07:17
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Dominant from the Evonik boys. Congrats again, knockout! A true KO on the bunch with such a leadout. Another day in white for Pedersen is just what we hoped, so happy with that, even though the stage placing was nothing spesial.
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| DubbelDekker |
Posted on 29-04-2020 07:56
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Wow Evonik is completely owning these first two stages. Grats!
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Posted on 06-12-2025 23:39
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| Croatia14 |
Posted on 29-04-2020 08:00
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why on earth did our best sprinter chase if we have no GC rider here? why don't we join breaks? what is wrong with my team?
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| jandal7 |
Posted on 29-04-2020 08:13
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Dzamastagic: *Leads out for Evonik*
The rest of the PT: lets him
Dzamastagic: *Wins*
The PT:
24/02/21 - kandesbunzler said “I don't drink famous people."
15/08/22 - SotD said "Your [jandal's] humour is overrated"
11/06/24 - knockout said "Winning is fine I guess. Truth be told this felt completely unimportant."
[PT]  Xero Racing
5x  x5
1x  x1
2x  x2
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| SotD |
Posted on 29-04-2020 08:19
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Completely battering this race Evonik  - Congrats mate.
Too bad we didn't bring anyone to the break here, this was a "Kastrantas-stage" in the making. Instead we drop 5/8 riders. Oh well. Next stage please 
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| tsmoha |
Posted on 29-04-2020 08:29
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Congrats, knockout. Nice race for you 
Not much to see for us in those flat stages. We won't join early breaks and have no sprinter. Smith with a nice finish to 8th though!
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| roturn |
Posted on 29-04-2020 09:00
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Quite a pity Van der Poel is not taken for those kind of stages. Could get top10`s surely in reduced bunch sprints.
Velits though in 9th is a nice surprise, apparently attentive all day, which is good.
Congrats to Evonik. Was a clear stage for Van Stayen, but who cares if team mate Dzamastagic one more comes up with the biggest gear and making it even a 1-2 this way. |
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| knockout |
Posted on 29-04-2020 09:31
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jandal7 wrote:
Dzamastagic: *Leads out for Evonik*
The rest of the PT: lets him
Dzamastagic: *Wins*
The PT:
Thanks everyone. Two stage wins was surely what i was hoping for but this is brilliant
Dzamastagic is an absolute beast. After the last couple of races, i wonder if i havent hyped him up enough over the last couple of years?
And im not sure whether having four Evonik guys between Dzamastagic and Van Stayen is the most ridiculous stupid strategy or if it the most amazing clever strategy. I tend towards the first one and being bailed out by the lack of interest by other sprinters to compete here but today i dont care ^^
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| cio93 |
Posted on 29-04-2020 14:25
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Our best TTer in a pointless break the day before the TTT, and Herklotz finishing 25th on a day where THIRD was within reach for the GC men.
Today was a tactical disgrace. I strongly urge the team to make up for it tomorrow.
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| roturn |
Posted on 30-04-2020 06:46
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Other than once more underperform in a TTT (well, not too bad but still couple spots below strength), I am a bit surprised here about the differences in stage and GC times.
Stage wise Aegon, Puma and also my 6th ("dropped" rider Velits were s.t.
GC wise though Puma has lost a few seconds to Aegon and Velits another few to Puma. Just 2-3s but still not sure where they come from.
In game times and result times are often 1s off due to rounding I guess. But never have seen those kind of export differences before.
Other than that, great report! Time trials are always annoying to report imo, but you did excellent work there with lots of mid stage updates and live timing. |
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| Tamijo |
Posted on 30-04-2020 07:02
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roturn wrote:
Other than once more underperform in a TTT (well, not too bad but still couple spots below strength), I am a bit surprised here about the differences in stage and GC times.
Stage wise Aegon, Puma and also my 6th ("dropped" rider Velits were s.t.
GC wise though Puma has lost a few seconds to Aegon and Velits another few to Puma. Just 2-3s but still not sure where they come from.
In game times and result times are often 1s off due to rounding I guess. But never have seen those kind of export differences before.
Other than that, great report! Time trials are
always annoying to report imo, but you did excellent work there with lots of mid stage updates and live timing.
There was this 1" from "stage" to "GC" that i did not mention as it is such a small thing. Don't know if you can draw something from it ?, guess if you think about it just make it more strange
Team:
| Rank | Team | Time | GC | | 5 | Repsol - Netflix | + 19 | + 19 (5) | | 6 | Gazelle | + 22 | + 22 (6) | | 7 | Aegon - Lavazza | s.t. | + 23 (7) | | 8 | Team Puma - SAP | s.t. | + 23 (8) | | 9 | Grieg - Maersk | + 35 | + 35 (9) |
If this race surely unlikely to matter in the end, but could be problematic if the TTT was very decisive in another races.
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| SotD |
Posted on 30-04-2020 07:20
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Impressive stuff... Even as the by far worst setup in the race we still manage to fuck up, and leave our race leader Bongiorno with an additional timeloss... I wonder what goes through their minds.
Oh well - not excuse for not attacking now, which was basically the idea when selecting the setup for this race. Let's see if it works.
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| roturn |
Posted on 30-04-2020 07:39
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Yeah, this kind of things happen often due to rounding.
Was more surprised to see changes of more than 1s e.g. Aegon and Velits while it said s.t., which normally means, maximum +- 1s.
Anyway, shouldn`t play a big role in the end. |
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| tsmoha |
Posted on 30-04-2020 09:06
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Okay result for us, I guess. Looks like Morton almost got dropped by our team though. Brings back memories to one season/race, where he got dropped big time and lost a race before it really began.
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| tastasol |
Posted on 30-04-2020 09:37
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A decent TTT. We have a couple of riders also riding the TTT in the Tour, which could be cruicial to get yellow early, so I'd say this was relatively good. With Phinney, Wurtz etc hopefully we can be a bit better.
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| cunego59 |
Posted on 30-04-2020 09:48
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roturn wrote:
Stage wise Aegon, Puma and also my 6th ("dropped" rider Velits were s.t.
GC wise though Puma has lost a few seconds to Aegon and Velits another few to Puma. Just 2-3s but still not sure where they come from.
In game times and result times are often 1s off due to rounding I guess. But never have seen those kind of export differences before.
Fwiw, I'm pretty sure that the GC times are the "correct" ones, at least for ingame consistency. As you said, the sixth rider usually gets a time gap to his team's first finisher, so it's virtually impossible to have the stage results with six riders of one team at the same time. Same with Prowess and Boaro for Gazelle, who get the same time in the stage as five of their teammates but lose a few seconds in the GC. I agree though, it is a weird "visual bug" I guess.
Also, it's an AI desaster how the game handels TTTs with regards to team leaders, but that's another story ...
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| DubbelDekker |
Posted on 30-04-2020 10:01
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We did ok in this TTT.
Congrats to matt, who I hope comes back soon.
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| sgdanny |
Posted on 30-04-2020 14:57
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Good start to the race for Wellens, good to see
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| knockout |
Posted on 30-04-2020 15:25
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Its a TTT. nothing more to say about it :p
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| cio93 |
Posted on 30-04-2020 15:43
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I can't say I'm happy about conceding a second to Madrazo on his presumably weakest stage. We were 4th in the TTT ranking and Gazelle 9th.
At least we benefit from Gesink and Morton inexplicably (for RP purposes, obviously we know the game) getting dropped by a few seconds.
For the greater good, let's just hope that at the very least the final TT will make all these gaps irrelevant. We have to have an aggressive attacking plan for the mountain stages anyway.
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