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Vuelta a Mallorca Discussion
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| Sykkel_Freak |
Posted on 29-04-2014 16:12
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Relived to see that the hill stage only as a MO/HI ratio of 0,2. I expected it to be much higher! Also nice to see that the field is not that strong. Hopefully Di Maggio is able to challenge for the win, although I'm not too optimistic considering he only finished 9th last time he particapated here.
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| Alakagom |
Posted on 29-04-2014 16:27
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Hoping for win, podium will be okay. Strong team as well, in this rather weak field even Serry could score some points. Looking forward to it.
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| CountArach |
Posted on 29-04-2014 16:55
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Really weird to see such a weak startlist - only 4 race days and with at least 2 of them almost certain to end in a sprint you would think some of the top sprinters would have a go at getting the leader's jersey for a couple of stages and maybe the overall points jersey.
Thanks for the preview SN.
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| cio93 |
Posted on 29-04-2014 17:06
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CountArach wrote:
Really weird to see such a weak startlist - only 4 race days and with at least 2 of them almost certain to end in a sprint you would think some of the top sprinters would have a go at getting the leader's jersey for a couple of stages and maybe the overall points jersey.
Thanks for the preview SN.
Not too surprising, for me at least. Lots of pure sprinter races this season.
Ciolek rides only two races all season long where his chances to win the GC are somewhat limited - Olympia's Tour and Post Danmark Rundt.
5 flat stages + 17k of TTing and 4 flat stages + 29k of TTing, so way more points opportunities and still a decent chance for a good GC result with some bonus seconds.
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| Miguel98 |
Posted on 29-04-2014 17:35
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Seeing those tables makes a little bit more confident definetelly. Becerra for the GC top 10 hopefully (PCM, please, my team has got way too many trolls already in South Africa) and Cabrera to show off in the sprint stages. Though having one of the strongest sprinters will probably mean a train, that is not existent. Definetelly worriying. |
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| viking90 |
Posted on 29-04-2014 20:21
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Well that was a weak squad I sent here 
Hoping for breakaways and good result by Hermans! |
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| Mresuperstar |
Posted on 29-04-2014 20:25
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Smowz wrote:
Looking at the various tables - I think Cobo may win.
Not Froome coz of Jaguar-Dowsett sux disease
Not Di Maggio coz I h8 Di Maggio.
Cobo I think as he is Spanish he just will have that extra buzz.
I'd certainly be happy with that. For some reason I forgot about the nationality bonus in PCM, so perhaps Cobo does have a decent shot for at least a podium. 
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| Luis Leon Sanchez |
Posted on 29-04-2014 20:54
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I think breakaways on stages 3 and 4 could be good for the team.
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| Luis Leon Sanchez |
Posted on 29-04-2014 21:49
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Will the Cat1 climb on stage 3 be enough for pure climbers to drop Froome or not?
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| roturn |
Posted on 29-04-2014 22:01
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Luis Leon Sanchez wrote:
Will the Cat1 climb on stage 3 be enough for pure climbers to drop Froome or not?
As the mo-hill ratio was at 0.2, the Cat.1 will more likely drop your climbers than Froome. |
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| Alakagom |
Posted on 29-04-2014 22:01
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SN posted the values of that stage in post 13 btw 
And in short, Froome will be the favoruite on that climb
In PCM it doesn't matter how the climb looks, it's coded in the game what type of stat will be used most in each stage. In this case it's 0.2. Meaning 80% HIL and 20% mountain of riders stat will be considered.
Did you really think I would send Froome here knowing that the key climb in the whole race would not suit him ?
Edited by Alakagom on 29-04-2014 22:03
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| Luis Leon Sanchez |
Posted on 29-04-2014 22:07
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Well. I thought he may not be number 1 favourite. I have been corrected. Good luck all 
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| ggDonovan |
Posted on 29-04-2014 23:01
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aidanvn13 wrote:
ggDonovan wrote:
SportingNonsense wrote:
.2 rating looks like:
Spoiler | Froome | Chris | Quickstep | 78.8 | | Di Maggio | Cesare | Venchi - Ferranti | 78.6 | | Betancourt | Carlos | FCB - Polska | 77.8 | | Cobo | Juan José | Team CSC - Orbea | 76.8 | | Hategeka | Gasore | Project: Africa | 76 | | Weening | Pieter | Gazelle | 75.4 | | Serry | Pieter | Quickstep | 75.4 | | Bilbao | Pello | Bacardi - Itera | 74.8 | | Rodriguez Oliver | Joaquin | Team CSC - Orbea | 74.8 | | Rabon | Frantisek | Metinvest-Emirates | 74.6 | | Becerra | Eduin | Mobil - Aeropostal Ciclismo | 74.6 | | Lejman | Gracjan | FCB - Polska | 74.6 | | Konovalovas | Ignas | Privatbank - Nemiroff Professional Cycling Team | 74.4 | | Durasek | Kristijan | RBC Pro Cycling | 74.2 | | Ghisalberti | Sergio | Metinvest-Emirates | 73.8 | | Wyss | Marcel | Team Vontobel | 73.8 | | Didier | Laurent | FCB - Polska | 73.6 | | Wegmann | Fabian | Team Kenya Airways | 73.4 | | Anza | Santo | Kappa - ENI | 73.2 | | Bosisio | Gabriele | Kappa - ENI | 73.2 |
Grrr... I was going to post the same
Well, I will do another thing, how the hill/mo rating affects to the attribute (hill vs hill/mo) compared to the oposition:
Spoiler | Juan José Cobo | Team CSC - Orbea | 22,22% | | Carlos Betancourt | FCB - Polska | 16,67% | | Joaquin Rodriguez Oliver | Team CSC - Orbea | 11,11% | | Chris Froome | Quickstep | 11,11% | | Pieter Serry | Quickstep | 10,00% | | Pieter Weening | Gazelle | 10,00% | | Eduin Becerra | Mobil - Aeropostal Ciclismo | 7,78% | | Gabriele Bosisio | Kappa - ENI | 6,67% | | Yusuke Hatanaka | Meiji - Cannondale | 3,33% | | Laurent Didier | FCB - Polska | 2,22% | | Kristijan Durasek | RBC Pro Cycling | 1,11% | | Frantisek Rabon | Metinvest-Emirates | -3,33% | | Cesare Di Maggio | Venchi - Ferranti | -3,33% | | Marcel Wyss | Team Vontobel | -5,56% | | Ignas Konovalovas | Privatbank - Nemiroff Professional Cycling Team | -6,67% | | Pello Bilbao | Bacardi - Itera | -11,11% | | Fabian Wegmann | Team Kenya Airways | -12,22% | | Gracjan Lejman | FCB - Polska | -14,44% | | Santo Anza | Kappa - ENI | -15,56% | | Ben Hermans | Swedbank-PEAB | -22,22% |
You've added Hatanka instead of using Hategeka
FIXED!
| Juan José Cobo | Team CSC - Orbea | 22,22% | | Carlos Betancourt | FCB - Polska | 16,67% | | Chris Froome | Quickstep | 11,11% | | Joaquin Rodriguez Oliver | Team CSC - Orbea | 11,11% | | Pieter Serry | Quickstep | 10,00% | | Pieter Weening | Gazelle | 10,00% | | Gasore Hategeka | Project: Africa | 8,89% | | Eduin Becerra | Mobil - Aeropostal Ciclismo | 7,78% | | Gabriele Bosisio | Kappa - ENI | 6,67% | | Sergio Ghisalberti | Metinvest-Emirates | 5,56% | | Laurent Didier | FCB - Polska | 2,22% | | Kristijan Durasek | RBC Pro Cycling | 1,11% | | Cesare Di Maggio | Venchi - Ferranti | -3,33% | | Frantisek Rabon | Metinvest-Emirates | -3,33% | | Marcel Wyss | Team Vontobel | -5,56% | | Ignas Konovalovas | Privatbank - Nemiroff Professional Cycling Team | -6,67% | | Pello Bilbao | Bacardi - Itera | -11,11% | | Fabian Wegmann | Team Kenya Airways | -12,22% | | Gracjan Lejman | FCB - Polska | -14,44% | | Santo Anza | Kappa - ENI | -15,56% | | Ben Hermans | Swedbank-PEAB | -22,22% |
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| beagle |
Posted on 29-04-2014 23:05
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Alakagom wrote:
Did you really think I would send Froome here knowing that the key climb in the whole race would not suit him ?
It reminds me those informations should be available for everyone (in race profiles?) in next seasons as not everyone have/play PCM13.
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| Scorchio |
Posted on 29-04-2014 23:48
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beagle wrote:
Alakagom wrote:
Did you really think I would send Froome here knowing that the key climb in the whole race would not suit him ?
It reminds me those informations should be available for everyone (in race profiles?) in next seasons as not everyone have/play PCM13.
Agreed.
From a spectator / participant point of view, it would be good if this info was generally included in race previews if possible (I don't have PCM13, so not sure how easy is for reporters to include). Has promoted additional discussion in this thread, and helps in interpreting what happens in reports (if PCM AI ever calms down!).
Good luck to our CT compadres at Euskatel as they get their season underway, must have been torture watching everybody else get underway and sitting on the sidelines for full initation in the MG!
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| cio93 |
Posted on 29-04-2014 23:54
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While I agree that the mo/hill-ratio can/should come with the preview, I definitely do not think we should make that info available pre-race planning if that is what beagle hints towards as well.
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| Avin Wargunnson |
Posted on 30-04-2014 06:32
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cio93 wrote:
While I agree that the mo/hill-ratio can/should come with the preview, I definitely do not think we should make that info available pre-race planning if that is what beagle hints towards as well.
Why, if i may ask?
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| Luis Leon Sanchez |
Posted on 30-04-2014 06:42
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We can discuss this before the start of next season. For now lets bring on some good racing Even if my team isn't particularly involved.
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| beagle |
Posted on 30-04-2014 07:42
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Avin Wargunnson wrote:
cio93 wrote:
While I agree that the mo/hill-ratio can/should come with the preview, I definitely do not think we should make that info available pre-race planning if that is what beagle hints towards as well.
Why, if i may ask?
+1
Ofc, I was talking about pre-race planning. Everyone involving in the game should have the same conditions at the start of seasom, imo.
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| CountArach |
Posted on 30-04-2014 07:47
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beagle wrote:
Avin Wargunnson wrote:
cio93 wrote:
While I agree that the mo/hill-ratio can/should come with the preview, I definitely do not think we should make that info available pre-race planning if that is what beagle hints towards as well.
Why, if i may ask?
+1
Ofc, I was talking about pre-race planning. Everyone involving in the game should have the same conditions at the start of seasom, imo.
I agree too.
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