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| SportingNonsense |
Posted on 16-03-2014 10:46
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I enjoyed the race, although not too much happened after the Bottas safety car.
A little bit bemused by the DRS moans today though, there was hardly any of that in this race!
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| rycadinho |
Posted on 16-03-2014 10:53
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Fantastic display by Kevin, I've always been a huge fan of his father and it's amazing to see such a young driver deliver a performance like that!
As a Ferrari fan, then I'm actually quite happy about Alonsos performance - They aren't that far away of the mercedes teams, though I feel for Massa, I'm sure he would had been on the podium if not for that start!
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| MrUfo87 |
Posted on 16-03-2014 16:53
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Results Australian Grand Prix
1. Rosberg – Mercedes
2. Magnussen – McLaren
3. Button - McLaren
4. Alonso – Ferrari
5. Bottas – Williams
6. Hülkenberg – Force India
7. Räikkönen – Ferrari
8. Vergne – Toro Rosso
9. Kvyat – Toro Rosso
10. Pérez – Force India
11. Sutil – Sauber
12. Gutiérrez – Sauber
13. Chilton – Marussia
DNF’s
Kobayashi
Bianchi
Grosjean
Maldonado
Vettel
Ericsson
Hamilton
Massa
DSQ
Ricciardo
Ricciardo has been disqualified because of using too much fuel.
Kobayashi doesn’t get a penalty for crashing out Massa in the first corner
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| Ste117 |
Posted on 16-03-2014 17:02
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Rin wrote:
I don't know if it's because you are getting older or because F1 is still boring/stupid DRS stuff.
When the F1 started in Melbourne 1996 I think the starting time was 4 o'clock. Race was not that great, finish dramatic but still stayed awake during all the race.
This year 6 in the morning awake, having in mind oh the new Turbos are great, ok they have dingies on the front but all the noses down looks great etc.
Start and the first laps without DRS oh wow they overtake more than overall last season! 25 laps afterwards boring, 10 laps before the end I fell asleep
After the podium ceremony I woke up and saw nothing happened afterwards.
Never slept that well in that short time 
Same for me, I ended up having little naps.
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| issoisso |
Posted on 16-03-2014 18:34
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The Williams is quite fast, shame about Massa
ruben wrote:
had the same, in the past i got up for f1 racing and would be stuck to the screen. Now when I try to watch even in the middle of the day I fall asleep 
oldschool f1 was better
Nope, we're just getting old.
We're no longer enthusiastic kids
cio93 wrote:
Indeed, even transfer season where nothing happened was more exciting.
As I already pointed out, the only real question is whether the turbo sound reminds me more of a lawnmower race or multiple cows being strangled.
You have the right to your taste and opinion of course, but I personally don't get people complaining about the sound of cars. For me it's about the racing, I just feel like I'm watching football with a bunch of guys who are complaining the players should be "hotter"
Rin wrote:
??? Hoping for people to retire?
Rosberg wasn't lucky he was the best during the race.
Agreed
Rin wrote:
No DRS at all would enable racing as sometimes (especially at Spa) sometimes they don't really want to be the band wagon that enables the cars behind the DRS and flinging past.
Nope, that's only the case with underpowered cars in lower formulas. In F1 the draft isn't that big so nobody would ever pass up the chance of being ahead
Rin wrote:
But the biggest problem is still the aerodynamics.
Always will be
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Ricciardo has been disqualified because of using too much fuel.
Kinda but not really 
Basically, there has to be a power limit otherwise teams would be able to use massive amounts of fuel flow to "jump" the power to over 1500hp for a few seconds to overtake.
That would be unbelievably dangerous and people would almost certainly die, so the teams all agreed to limit horsepower by limiting the flow of fuel into the engine to a maximum of 100kg/h. Ricciardo's car exceeded that many many times during the race.
The FIA warned Red Bull friday and saturday that they were using too much and either they had to make the car legal, or change the sensor if they thought the sensor was faulty.
What happened after that is complicated but essentially boils down to Red Bull saying 'no thanks, it's fine, we got this'. They didn't. They screwed up. I feel for Ricciardo but rules are rules
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| MrUfo87 |
Posted on 17-03-2014 22:58
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Well, thanks for the explanation. 
Red Bull are going to protest. They said that the thing that has to count the used fuel is wrong, and the FIA gave that counter. They say that they're sure they didn't do anything wrong (well, they've said that often while it wasn't always right).
Ricciardo was calm under the disqualification. Of course he was fed up, but he also know that the memories to stand on the podium in Australia will last forever. I feel sorry for him, because he deserved it after such a good race (or maybe he didn't even finished second if Red Bull didn't do this, assuming it's Red Bull's foult).
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Posted on 19-03-2014 00:58
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@rin
Of course Nico was best in race but hardly difficult when his only rival was took out of the race. What is wrong with hoping both drivers have the same amount of bad look i hate it when its look that decides.
You dont realise how big a 25 point gap is for Nico after just 1 race dude, when their car is so far ahead of the rest their is a good chance for next 2 races atleast it will be 2 Mercs battling, Ham could win both and not overtake Nico. Merc have a huge adv they set the fastest lap oof race on lap 19 lol, why the rest done it with low fuelthat is just scary.
Also im a big Ham fan and would love him to get a 2nd wtitle he is better than Nico nodoubt look at last year first year in that team he beat him, got pole after missing FP1. Bye the way Nico is great he is a top 5 driver for me he proved by being close to Ham he is good.
Can you imagine Ham and Alonso finishing with 1xWC and 2xWC that will be a travesty, you look at the list of wins poles(Poles more in Ham case/starts) and Ham and Alo will easily be top 5 when its all said and done yet they might not have the WC to back it up.
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Posted on 19-03-2014 01:03
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Think im the only guy not as impressed with Mag as the rest lol, the gaps were so big he had no car breating down his neck what did he really do? Im not saying he should do more but what did he do that was extrodinary,Button would have been ahead had far btter race pace and i feel it wont look good if Mag cant beat JB.
JB is now older he is an awful qualifier and Mag should beat him convincingly imo. Also Mag would not have been ahead of Bottas and Ham or Vet if they qualiied properly, Bottas was flying. So good start but not the next superstar people think imo, Hulkenberg should have that seast any car he is in he outperforms it, he smashed Sergio and JB never gave that defecitto Perez. |
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Posted on 19-03-2014 01:06
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I agree about Alonso they can never get it right for him, he will just imagine Alo and Ron Dennis back together next year, Ron says Lewis will be back in future aswell, if Ham has reliability like 2012 he should go back to Mclaren no way he should stay with a German team/German driver. Why would he stay?
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| issoisso |
Posted on 19-03-2014 18:27
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atlanta wrote:
Think im the only guy not as impressed with Mag as the rest lol, the gaps were so big he had no car breating down his neck what did he really do? Im not saying he should do more but what did he do that was extrodinary,Button would have been ahead had far btter race pace and i feel it wont look good if Mag cant beat JB.
It was extremely impressive to do it when you have no experience of F1 and barely any testing.
There's very little testing nowadays. Grosjean has spent 3 and a half seasons in F1 and he still hasn't tested as many Kms total as Hamilton had before his first race.
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JB is now older he is an awful qualifier
What most F1 fans don't realize is that those things usually go hand in hand.
Example: Rindt was the king of qualifying, until he was no longer young and was beaten regularly by Fittipaldi, who was the new king of qualifying, until he was no longer young and was beaten by Lauda who was the new king until he was no longer young when Prost took over as master qualified, until he was in his 30s when Senna took over, then Senna stopped being so young and Schumacher was murdering him in qualifying....you see my point. It's why Vettel is so ZOMG HE'S SO AMAZING IN QUALIFYING....no, he's young, that's all.
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Posted on 19-03-2014 18:32
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Yes he was good but i still think he done what the car done, i not saying he is not a good driver but people think on 1 race he is a phenom. Also you cant compare 1 bit to Hamilton he had Alo as ateammate. Alo>x1000Button. Mag has been a 3rd driver for a whole year at Mclaren he done the young driver test also done testing this year.
And yes i agree about asyou get older it affects people different Alo is only a year younger than Kimi but i dont see Alo dropping YET. You see signs with Kimi and JB their window are closing i personally feel Kimi peaked young i feel Kimi was better in 03 and 05 than when he won in 07. I feel he ad more natural speed than Fernando but no way now. |
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Posted on 19-03-2014 18:37
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Im almost sure your wrong about Senna, in 94 year he died he was beatung Schumi in qually i think but car was unreliable untill his death and race pace was bad. You cant compare that when Schumi had a ridiclous advantage with the cheating Benneton.
Senna never got poor in qually, Schumi did nt either. I doubt Hamilton will and same with Vet. Sure if their 37 and they have a 25 year old teammate they wont be as good but some just dont have it from thestart.
Look at 2010 JB was what 30? Thats not old that is a peak you could say he was at his peak and 25 year old Ham was not yet, but Ham destoyed him in qually. Some are just born fast |
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Posted on 29-03-2014 19:18
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Qualification Results Malaysia
| 1. Lewis Hamilton – Mercedes | | 2. Sebastian Vettel – Red Bull | | 3. Nico Rosberg – Mercedes | | 4. Fernando Alonso – Ferrari | | 5. Daniel Ricciardo – Red Bull | | 6. Kimi Räikkönen – Ferrari | | 7. Nico Hülkenberg – Force India | | 8. Kevin Magnussen – McLaren | | 9. Jean-Éric Vergne – Toro Rosso | | 10. Jenson Button – McLaren | | 11. Daniil Kvyat – Toro Rosso | | 12. Esteban Gutiérrez – Sauber | | 13. Felipe Massa – Williams | | 14. Sergio Pérez – Force India | | 15. Valtteri Bottas – Williams | | 16. Romain Grosjean – Lotus | | 17. Pastor Maldonado – Lotus | | 18. Adrian Sutil – Sauber | | 19. Jules Bianchi – Marussia | | 20. Kamui Kobayashi – Caterham | | 21. Max Chilton – Marussia | | 22. Marcus Ericsson - Caterham |
Valtteri Bottas has got a three place penalty for empeding Ricciardo so he'll start as 18th.
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Posted on 29-03-2014 19:26
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Great effort from Hamilton in Qualifying  , although if it rains again its going to be hard for him during the race itself |
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Posted on 29-03-2014 19:42
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atlanta wrote:
Yes he was good but i still think he done what the car done, i not saying he is not a good driver but people think on 1 race he is a phenom. Also you cant compare 1 bit to Hamilton he had Alo as ateammate. Alo>x1000Button. Mag has been a 3rd driver for a whole year at Mclaren he done the young driver test also done testing this year.
And yes i agree about asyou get older it affects people different Alo is only a year younger than Kimi but i dont see Alo dropping YET. You see signs with Kimi and JB their window are closing i personally feel Kimi peaked young i feel Kimi was better in 03 and 05 than when he won in 07. I feel he ad more natural speed than Fernando but no way now.
Mag may end up being one though. He was very quick in Australia, the whole weekend and very composed for a rookie driver. I cant recall a mistake he made until this week in Malaysia. He also did quite well in pre-season testing, so maybe some people dont believe the good start was just a fluke either. Lets not forget that he outqualified a more experience team-mate today, with a damaged car.
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| MrUfo87 |
Posted on 29-03-2014 19:45
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@valv: Button gambled on intermediates but it was too wet for it. We don't know where he should've finished when he also used wets. But Magnussen has had a very strong start indeed.
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Posted on 29-03-2014 19:51
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Alonso was ridiculously impressive today, he had a broken car in Q3 after hitting Kvyat
Also, Bottas penalized 3 grid spots because he blocked Ricciardo (after that the track was several seconds slower so Ricciardo was stuck way back on the grid)
atlanta wrote:
And yes i agree about asyou get older it affects people different Alo is only a year younger than Kimi but i dont see Alo dropping YET.
I'm talking qualifying only and yes you do. Alonso has been heavily criticized the last few years for being unimpressive in qualifying
atlanta wrote:
You see signs with Kimi and JB their window are closing i personally feel Kimi peaked young i feel Kimi was better in 03 and 05 than when he won in 07. I feel he ad more natural speed than Fernando but no way now.
I wouldn't say he was that good in 03. He should've won the title that year but threw it away by spinning or going off in qualifying in over half the races
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Im almost sure your wrong about Senna, in 94 year he died he was beatung Schumi in qually
Nope. Schumi was ahead and even in 93 with a crap car Schumi was on him
atlanta wrote:
i think but car was unreliable untill his death and race pace was bad
His race pace was always much worse than his quali pace, even more so after he stopped having Prost's setups. And the car wasn't unreliable, he was just making mistake after mistake and not finishing (although he was already a guy who DNFed a lot, his sister Viviane says it was simply Schumacher's pressure getting to him mixed with lack of motivation from Prost not being around)
atlanta wrote:
Senna never got poor in qually, Schumi did nt either.
They both did. Beaten by Massa? C'mon
atlanta wrote:
Look at 2010 JB was what 30? Thats not old that is a peak you could say he was at his peak and 25 year old Ham was not yet, but Ham destoyed him in qually. Some are just born fast
He's better in quali, but a lot of that is just he was younger. Go to 2004 or so and Button was known as the qualifying specialist, blazingly fast in quali and the one guy who might take poles from Schumacher. Why? Young.
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| Aquarius |
Posted on 29-03-2014 20:54
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issoisso wrote:
atlanta wrote:
Im almost sure your wrong about Senna, in 94 year he died he was beatung Schumi in qually
Nope. Schumi was ahead and even in 93 with a crap car Schumi was on him
atlanta wrote:
i think but car was unreliable untill his death and race pace was bad
His race pace was always much worse than his quali pace, even more so after he stopped having Prost's setups. And the car wasn't unreliable, he was just making mistake after mistake and not finishing (although he was already a guy who DNFed a lot, his sister Viviane says it was simply Schumacher's pressure getting to him mixed with lack of motivation from Prost not being around)
Must be said though, that the 1993 Williams, and the 1994 derived from it, though they had a huge potential for speed, were very hard to set up.
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Posted on 30-03-2014 10:23
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| Aquarius |
Posted on 30-03-2014 10:28
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Ricciardo
Vettel's team mate who is racing not too far from him and gets an unexpected problem on his car ? That is a first.  |
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