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La Vuelta 2013 - Week One (24th-30th August)
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| Malkael |
Posted on 23-08-2013 18:59
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Jesleyh wrote:
SSJ2Luigi wrote:
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No Belkin at the favourites 
only Sánchez and Clement are good time trailist in that team so if Belkin manages to win the TTT I'll eat my shoe 
I meant the overall favourites.
Mollema & Ten Dam aren't even mentioned
Btw, Mollema is good on the TT bike as well
I'm still writing  , a bunch of people are getting a mention once I finish. I took a break to write the stage preview to change things up for a moment. |
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| Jesleyh |
Posted on 23-08-2013 19:01
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Malkael wrote:
Jesleyh wrote:
SSJ2Luigi wrote:
Jesleyh wrote:
No Belkin at the favourites
only Sánchez and Clement are good time trailist in that team so if Belkin manages to win the TTT I'll eat my shoe
I meant the overall favourites.
Mollema & Ten Dam aren't even mentioned
Btw, Mollema is good on the TT bike as well
I'm still writing , a bunch of people are getting a mention once I finish. I took a break to write the stage preview to change things up for a moment.
No problem
It's just that I see them doing better than Basso
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| Malkael |
Posted on 23-08-2013 19:08
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That was totally longer then I expected it was going to be when I first started, but it is finally done! Now I can do the same again for the other jerseys . Well hopefully the rest aren't quite that long, I know La Vuelta seems like it could be quite open but that would be extreme. |
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| I_Mayo |
Posted on 23-08-2013 19:10
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Jesleyh wrote:
Malkael wrote:
Jesleyh wrote:
SSJ2Luigi wrote:
Jesleyh wrote:
No Belkin at the favourites
only Sánchez and Clement are good time trailist in that team so if Belkin manages to win the TTT I'll eat my shoe
I meant the overall favourites.
Mollema & Ten Dam aren't even mentioned
Btw, Mollema is good on the TT bike as well
I'm still writing , a bunch of people are getting a mention once I finish. I took a break to write the stage preview to change things up for a moment.
No problem
It's just that I see them doing better than Basso
This guy... is just something else. |
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| pcm2009fan |
Posted on 23-08-2013 19:11
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I think Basso will have a quiet but decent race, moving up many places in the GC on the final mountain stages. He's not likely to be as tired as the likes of TenDam, Mollema, Kreuziger etc... and I think he finished top 5 on the main mountain stage at the Vuelta a Burgos recently (?) ... maybe 6th-8th in GC is possible for him. |
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| Jesleyh |
Posted on 23-08-2013 19:12
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Well, yup.
And yes, I might be annoying as hell sometimes
I'm just a fan, okay.
But come on, honestly, do you think Basso can do better than both Ten Dam & Mollema?
Basso had his best time, it's about over now.
Top 10 if lucky.
Edited by Jesleyh on 23-08-2013 19:13
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| Miguel98 |
Posted on 23-08-2013 19:14
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Jesleyh wrote:
Well, yup.
And yes, I might be annoying as hell sometimes
I'm just a fan, okay.
But come on, honestly, do you think Basso can do better than both Ten Dam & Mollema?
Basso had his best time, it's about over now.
Top 10 if lucky.
Those words are going down your throat. No way Mollema and Ten Dam to finish top 10, 3rd wekk they're going down. And in the Angliru, you'll see.  |
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| Spilak23 |
Posted on 23-08-2013 19:16
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Jesleyh wrote:
It's just that I see them doing better than Basso
Don't think so. Basso is not a worse rider than Mollema or Ten Dam. He's not as great as he once was but he's still very good. Plus Basso literally never entered a GT where he had to lead in bad form. He was always in the contention. He once fucked up in 2005 when he took a bad bag.
He also had a much better preparation.
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| Jesleyh |
Posted on 23-08-2013 19:18
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Allright.
I rather make a risky statement than saying nothing or going on a pointless discussion now, so here you go.
The best Belkin GC guy will be placed higher than Basso in the end.
There you have it, do with it what you want.
But indeed, I wonder how fresh those guys still are.
And yes, Basso is prepared well. But I'd rather go for a stage-win, if I was him.
Edited by Jesleyh on 23-08-2013 19:22
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| I_Mayo |
Posted on 23-08-2013 19:24
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Jesleyh wrote:
Well, yup.
And yes, I might be annoying as hell sometimes
I'm just a fan, okay.
But come on, honestly, do you think Basso can do better than both Ten Dam & Mollema?
Basso had his best time, it's about over now.
Top 10 if lucky.
Who are Mollema & Ten Dam? One was almost considered a bust not too long ago and second is a 32 year old career-domestique who had one quite good week in a GT. As mentioned by other people fact that Basso ain't the same doesn't mean that he isn't better than most. |
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| Jesleyh |
Posted on 23-08-2013 19:27
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I_Mayo wrote:
Jesleyh wrote:
Well, yup.
And yes, I might be annoying as hell sometimes
I'm just a fan, okay.
But come on, honestly, do you think Basso can do better than both Ten Dam & Mollema?
Basso had his best time, it's about over now.
Top 10 if lucky.
Who are Mollema & Ten Dam? One was almost considered a bust not too long ago and second is a 32 year old career-domestique who had one quite good week in a GT. As mentioned by other people fact that Basso ain't the same doesn't mean that he isn't better than most.
Mollema wasn't really considered a bust. But well, if you say so, who am I to discuss that.
Well, Basso isn't great anymore, but had a good preperation.
As said, I can see him getting a Top 10, but not much more. You are so enthusiastic about him, what do you think he's going to get, a podium spot?
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| Spilak23 |
Posted on 23-08-2013 19:30
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what do you think he's going to get, a podium spot?
Around fifth place. Can't see Mollema or Ten Dam even getting close to that.
And they did Good tour + Crits + now a good Vuelta? Don't remember anyone but Sastre who did tour+crits and did good in the Vuelta
Edited by Spilak23 on 23-08-2013 19:32
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| I_Mayo |
Posted on 23-08-2013 19:31
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Jesleyh wrote:
I_Mayo wrote:
Jesleyh wrote:
Well, yup.
And yes, I might be annoying as hell sometimes
I'm just a fan, okay.
But come on, honestly, do you think Basso can do better than both Ten Dam & Mollema?
Basso had his best time, it's about over now.
Top 10 if lucky.
Who are Mollema & Ten Dam? One was almost considered a bust not too long ago and second is a 32 year old career-domestique who had one quite good week in a GT. As mentioned by other people fact that Basso ain't the same doesn't mean that he isn't better than most.
Mollema wasn't really considered a bust. But well, if you say so, who am I to discuss that.
Well, Basso isn't great anymore, but had a good preperation.
As said, I can see him getting a Top 10, but not much more. You are so enthusiastic about him, what do you think he's going to get, a podium spot?
Top 10. But it wasn't me but you who painted that picture in which Mollema and Ten Dam are far betters riders than Basso. |
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| Jesleyh |
Posted on 23-08-2013 19:46
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@Spilak Allright, you have a point there.
But again, I don't think Ten Dam or Mollema will finish convincingly in the Top 5, so depends what you call a good Vuelta.
@I_Mayo
Mollema is far better yeah. Ten Dam is just a bit better. But Basso has better form.
But I didn't predict either of them in the Top 5 in the Vuelta predictions thread, so I'm not sure what you mean, I don't think they win the Vuelta or so. And I didn't say there will be 8 places between them in the end or so, I just said better.
Edited by Jesleyh on 23-08-2013 19:47
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| Aquarius |
Posted on 23-08-2013 20:01
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It'd have been interesting to have a map of the TT (or of TT in general).
The more curvy they are, the less they favour actual TT specialists (and favour punchers instead), as it could be seen at the Eneco Tour with Chavanel beating Wiggins. |
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| Malkael |
Posted on 23-08-2013 20:13
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Done. Although for quicker reference I'll also link it below:
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Edited by Malkael on 23-08-2013 20:14
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| FreitasPCM |
Posted on 23-08-2013 23:38
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Will miss this first week due to being away... well, I just hope the big decisions won't start so early. And I have a feeling the win might go to a Colombian, since this is such an unpredictable race. |
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| 547984 |
Posted on 24-08-2013 00:06
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Don't get me wrong, Malkael, you do awesome reports, but how many times did you use the word "Whilst" ?
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| fcancellara |
Posted on 24-08-2013 00:08
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547984 wrote:
Don't get me wrong, Malkael, you do awesome reports, but how many times did you use the word "Whilst" ?
I count 12.
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| Ian Butler |
Posted on 24-08-2013 09:15
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547984 wrote:
Don't get me wrong, Malkael, you do awesome reports, but how many times did you use the word "Whilst" ?
Whilst this may be true, I still think it's great, whilst.  |
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