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TdF'13 Stage 21 - Versailles to Paris (July 21)
Ian Butler
Big round of applause for making these pre-race threads! Brilliant job on those.


The final stage. Can't get ruined for me as we see Quintana on the podium claiming two different jerseys.

But Riblon supercombativité? That's rubbish. That price was supposed to be Voigt's, those damn nationalistic Frenchmen.
 
sylvao
But Riblon supercombativité? That's rubbish. That price was supposed to be Voigt's, those damn nationalistic Frenchmen.


Yes, Voigt at age of 41 was doing his last Tour and I thought he deserved it for his overall fighting during many Tours. But for the Tour 2013, it seems that Ribblon was more present in breakaway than Voigt and succeeded at one stage. Rui Costa also was a candidate.
Last year C.A Sorensen won the prize but he is danish, not french.
Anyway, I agree this classification is still subjective and not very prestigious against over classifications (general, team, mountain and sprint points).
 
Pellizotti2
Ian Butler wrote:
But Riblon supercombativité? That's rubbish. That price was supposed to be Voigt's, those damn nationalistic Frenchmen.

You're kidding, right? :lol:

Voigt won the award on one stage. Riblon attacked on three Alpine stages in a row, despite being overtired after Alpe d'Huez. Not to mention that he was active in the Pyrenees as well. Very well deserved award, imo.
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Ian Butler
Pellizotti2 wrote:
Ian Butler wrote:
But Riblon supercombativité? That's rubbish. That price was supposed to be Voigt's, those damn nationalistic Frenchmen.

You're kidding, right? :lol:

Voigt won the award on one stage. Riblon attacked on three Alpine stages in a row, despite being overtired after Alpe d'Huez. Not to mention that he was active in the Pyrenees as well. Very well deserved award, imo.


Voigt was in 4 attacks at the least. Plus Riblon won a stage, I think combativité should go to someone who fought hard (nobody fights harder than Voigt) and preferably someone without other prizes.
 
binga58
Anyone ever attacked on the last stage like breakaway type attack?
 
Rin
Vinokourov 2005?


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binga58
I was meaning before the champs
 
doddy13
binga58 wrote:
I was meaning before the champs


I'm sure they have in the past, I don't know to hand though.
But in these days it's frowned upon by the peloton as it's a sort of unofficial neutralization.
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Ian Butler
I think it's wiser to discuss the sprint than a Vino. Chances of that succeeding are like 1%, maybe less.

As for the sprint, I'd say Cav, but that Kittel is damn fast and he climbed better than ever this Tour.
 
Ian Butler
Or maybe OPQS to pull the peloton to pieces? Pfft
 
arthon
Ian Butler wrote:
As for the sprint, I'd say Cav, but that Kittel is damn fast and he climbed better than ever this Tour.

You absolutely sure about that?:lol:
 
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Ian Butler
Yeah. Have you ever seen Kittel climb better? Smile
 
arthon
Well, he was the worst climber among the sprinters and he still is, if you check the GC. So, I'm pretty sure the improvement has been marginal. Pfft
 
Ian Butler
I beg to differ. Usually a bridge was enough to put him out of competition. Now there were stages where Cav and Greipel dropped before him.

It proves his great shape and I'm sure he'll be there tomorrow with his super fast legs.
 
ryant
I say Euskaltel's finest will win! Wink

Go LOBATO! Pfft
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CountArach
ryant wrote:
I say Euskaltel's finest will win! Wink

Go LOBATO! Pfft


Ion Izaguirre can do everything else, so I'd like to see him win a sprint on the Champs Pfft

But yeah I will be giving the stage a miss. Not worth staying up until 3:30-4am for a parade then yet another sprint. I'll just catch the highlights.
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Spilak23
arthon wrote:
Well, he was the worst climber among the sprinters and he still is, if you check the GC. So, I'm pretty sure the improvement has been marginal. Pfft


Kittel climbed better as Cavendish this tour
 
Spilak23
Sagan to wheelie from Versailles all the way untill the real race starts
 
jph27
In the first week when Cav was ill, yeah. Now its more even, in the mountains Cav was stronger.
 
doddy13
So... who is ready to watch the champions league of cycling on polish roads?
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