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TdF'13 Stage 20 - Annecy to Annecy-Semnoz (July 20)
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| Spilak23 |
Posted on 19-07-2013 20:36
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Kimmage wrote:
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Belkin getting annoyed and calling out Spanish riders for bb mondays
Do you have a link to this? I'd like to see the exact quotes.
https://www.wielerflits.nl/nieuws/2329...nners.html
And Belkin also are critical about the Bike controlling thing on Alpe d'Huez. (Jury let everyone know on Sarenne that all bikes would be controlled, Contador changed bikes between Sarenne and Alpe d'Huez)
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| Aquarius |
Posted on 19-07-2013 20:39
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Vayer also has a piece on Le Monde about how good a siesta the Spanish must have had this last Monday (read : BBM).
The bike control thing announced beforehand is just UCI at work. Trying to do good, but trying to bend its own rules at the same time, their only hope is to catch an idiot, not an actual well-organized cheater.
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| Kimmage |
Posted on 19-07-2013 21:00
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Spilak23 wrote:
Kimmage wrote:
Spilak23 wrote:
Belkin getting annoyed and calling out Spanish riders for bb mondays
Do you have a link to this? I'd like to see the exact quotes.
https://www.wielerflits.nl/nieuws/2329...nners.html
And Belkin also are critical about the Bike controlling thing on Alpe d'Huez. (Jury let everyone know on Sarenne that all bikes would be controlled, Contador changed bikes between Sarenne and Alpe d'Huez)
Thanks for the link. Not that I think Katusha or Movistar are clean. But using the fact that Rodriguez was faster than Froome on Alpe d'Huez is quite a bad argument when it was clear that Froome forgot to eat. Overall his arguments are quite bad, even though he's right. |
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| dienblad |
Posted on 19-07-2013 21:11
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Think Quintana won't win, since his mother's family name is Rojas (please, correct me if I'm wrong about the name thing).
Although I hope for Mollema to surprise and win the stage, I think that RodrÃguez will take it, beating Quintana and Froome.
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| dienblad |
Posted on 19-07-2013 21:12
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Furthermore: still no positive doping tests this Tour!!! Something must be wrong with the system, this is not possible....
Spoiler Really hope that all riders are clean, just being sarcastic...
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| XxMillad24Xx |
Posted on 19-07-2013 21:15
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dienblad wrote:
Furthermore: still no positive doping tests this Tour!!! Something must be wrong with the system, this is not possible....
Spoiler Really hope that all riders are clean, just being sarcastic...
wait 5 years.
"Cycling is now the the world's cleanest sport." - Chris Froome
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| Tjoertszc |
Posted on 19-07-2013 22:19
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dienblad wrote:
Furthermore: still no positive doping tests this Tour!!! Something must be wrong with the system, this is not possible....
Spoiler Really hope that all riders are clean, just being sarcastic...
Only outright idiots who are not on a systematic doping program get caught via contemporary tests during a GT.
Some may be too careless and slip out of competition, but their systems are highly monitored right now.
For the stage tomorrow I see only two outcomes:
1: a sprint between Quintana and Rodriguez
2: a Sky 2-man train with Froome gifting Porte the win |
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| issoisso |
Posted on 19-07-2013 22:24
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Tjoertszc wrote:
dienblad wrote:
Furthermore: still no positive doping tests this Tour!!! Something must be wrong with the system, this is not possible....
Spoiler Really hope that all riders are clean, just being sarcastic...
Only outright idiots who are not on a systematic doping program get caught via contemporary tests during a GT.
Some may be too careless and slip out of competition, but their systems are highly monitored right now.
For the stage tomorrow I see only two outcomes:
1: a sprint between Quintana and Rodriguez
2: a Sky 2-man train with Froome gifting Porte the win
2008. Toughest doping controls ever.
8 positives.
Anyway, I was thinking about something. Evans has been soft pedalling for a few stages to rest up so I wonder if he actually can win the stage.
And I was thinking that because Costa was unceremoniously dropped by the other contenders a few stages ago, but while they keep flogging themselves to the limit, he soft pedalled for two stages and as a result ended up climbing the Croix-Fry faster than they did, so clearly the effect is quite big.
If he can get the right break he might be able to win even if it's not given enough freedom.
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| SSJ2Luigi |
Posted on 19-07-2013 22:25
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Spilak23 wrote:
Kimmage wrote:
Spilak23 wrote:
Belkin getting annoyed and calling out Spanish riders for bb mondays
Do you have a link to this? I'd like to see the exact quotes.
https://www.wielerflits.nl/nieuws/2329...nners.html
And Belkin also are critical about the Bike controlling thing on Alpe d'Huez. (Jury let everyone know on Sarenne that all bikes would be controlled, Contador changed bikes between Sarenne and Alpe d'Huez)
dienblad wrote:
SSJ2Luigi: Belkin surprised about article:
From Belkin is reacted surprised about the article. The team states that the quotes aren't said that literally, and that the journalist interpretted it in his own way. More, team Belkin didnt want to talk about it
Spoiler Belkin verbaasd over artikel
Vanuit Belkin is verbaasd gereageerd op het artikel. De ploeg stelt dat de quotes die opgevoerd worden niet letterlijk zo gezegd zijn, en dat de journalist er zijn eigen interpretatie aan heeft gegeven. Meer woorden wilde Belkin verder niet aan het artikel vuil maken.
https://nos.nl/art...arden.html
Edited by SSJ2Luigi on 19-07-2013 22:31
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| SSJ2Luigi |
Posted on 19-07-2013 22:29
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issoisso wrote:
Spilak23 wrote:
Belkin getting annoyed and calling out Spanish riders for bb mondays
Hooray for hipocrisy
EDIT: To explain. They have a spanish guy on their team who is named in two different doping investigations and they let him race despite the MPCC asking them not to. Yet they complain about other teams' BBMs.
Sánchez? he sued (?) the team to let him race
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| dienblad |
Posted on 19-07-2013 22:30
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SSJ2Luigi: Belkin surprised about article:
From Belkin is reacted surprised about the article. The team states that the quotes aren't said that literally, and that the journalist interpretted it in his own way. More, team Belkin didnt want to talk about it
Edited by dienblad on 19-07-2013 22:31
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| issoisso |
Posted on 19-07-2013 22:31
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Lulu. Sánchez is Samuel 
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| Tjoertszc |
Posted on 19-07-2013 22:43
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issoisso wrote:
Tjoertszc wrote:
dienblad wrote:
Furthermore: still no positive doping tests this Tour!!! Something must be wrong with the system, this is not possible....
Spoiler Really hope that all riders are clean, just being sarcastic...
Only outright idiots who are not on a systematic doping program get caught via contemporary tests during a GT.
Some may be too careless and slip out of competition, but their systems are highly monitored right now.
For the stage tomorrow I see only two outcomes:
1: a sprint between Quintana and Rodriguez
2: a Sky 2-man train with Froome gifting Porte the win
2008. Toughest doping controls ever.
8 positives.
Anyway, I was thinking about something. Evans has been soft pedalling for a few stages to rest up so I wonder if he actually can win the stage.
And I was thinking that because Costa was unceremoniously dropped by the other contenders a few stages ago, but while they keep flogging themselves to the limit, he soft pedalled for two stages and as a result ended up climbing the Croix-Fry faster than they did, so clearly the effect is quite big.
If he can get the right break he might be able to win even if it's not given enough freedom.
Beltran, Ricco, Duenas, Fofonov, Piepoli, Schumacher and Kohl all perfectly match with what I said: they were idiots.
Casper was just him being to carefree, I guess.
Evans will attack tomorrow, but it is the wrong day.
Too many teams have an interest in keeping the breakaway within reach - and to be honest the stage is "easy" until Semnoz. |
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| Miguel98 |
Posted on 19-07-2013 22:45
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Tjoertszc wrote:
issoisso wrote:
Tjoertszc wrote:
dienblad wrote:
Furthermore: still no positive doping tests this Tour!!! Something must be wrong with the system, this is not possible....
Spoiler Really hope that all riders are clean, just being sarcastic...
Only outright idiots who are not on a systematic doping program get caught via contemporary tests during a GT.
Some may be too careless and slip out of competition, but their systems are highly monitored right now.
For the stage tomorrow I see only two outcomes:
1: a sprint between Quintana and Rodriguez
2: a Sky 2-man train with Froome gifting Porte the win
2008. Toughest doping controls ever.
8 positives.
Anyway, I was thinking about something. Evans has been soft pedalling for a few stages to rest up so I wonder if he actually can win the stage.
And I was thinking that because Costa was unceremoniously dropped by the other contenders a few stages ago, but while they keep flogging themselves to the limit, he soft pedalled for two stages and as a result ended up climbing the Croix-Fry faster than they did, so clearly the effect is quite big.
If he can get the right break he might be able to win even if it's not given enough freedom.
Evans will attack tomorrow, but it is the wrong day.
Too many teams have an interest in keeping the breakaway within reach - and to be honest the stage is "easy" until Semnoz.
How it is tomorrow a bad day? What, pull a Vinokourov on the Champs Elysses is a more viable option? |
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| Tjoertszc |
Posted on 19-07-2013 22:50
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Miguel98 wrote:
Tjoertszc wrote:
issoisso wrote:
Tjoertszc wrote:
dienblad wrote:
Furthermore: still no positive doping tests this Tour!!! Something must be wrong with the system, this is not possible....
Spoiler Really hope that all riders are clean, just being sarcastic...
Only outright idiots who are not on a systematic doping program get caught via contemporary tests during a GT.
Some may be too careless and slip out of competition, but their systems are highly monitored right now.
For the stage tomorrow I see only two outcomes:
1: a sprint between Quintana and Rodriguez
2: a Sky 2-man train with Froome gifting Porte the win
2008. Toughest doping controls ever.
8 positives.
Anyway, I was thinking about something. Evans has been soft pedalling for a few stages to rest up so I wonder if he actually can win the stage.
And I was thinking that because Costa was unceremoniously dropped by the other contenders a few stages ago, but while they keep flogging themselves to the limit, he soft pedalled for two stages and as a result ended up climbing the Croix-Fry faster than they did, so clearly the effect is quite big.
If he can get the right break he might be able to win even if it's not given enough freedom.
Evans will attack tomorrow, but it is the wrong day.
Too many teams have an interest in keeping the breakaway within reach - and to be honest the stage is "easy" until Semnoz.
How it is tomorrow a bad day? What, pull a Vinokourov on the Champs Elysses is a more viable option?
Today was the right day to go in a breakaway. 
Edited by Tjoertszc on 19-07-2013 22:51
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| sutty68 |
Posted on 19-07-2013 23:22
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Another good day in the mountains to look forward too |
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| fickman |
Posted on 19-07-2013 23:23
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Tomorrow we will see Porte and Froome annihilating everyone and Froome giving the win away to Porte for his great work. For 3 and 4 Quintana and Purito
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1. Froome
2. Quintana
3. Purito
4. Contador
5. Kreuziger
6. Fuglsang
7. Mollema
8. Valverde
9. Navarro
10. Kwiatkowski
Is the last climb long enaugh to create huge gaps??? |
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| ruben |
Posted on 19-07-2013 23:26
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issoisso wrote:
Lulu. Sánchez is Samuel
Still you are suprisingly bad informed. It was Blanco/Belkin that actually kept LLS out of racing as soon as they knew of the new investigations.
They were however FORCEd to put him in race when LLS sued the team and won the case.
So it's kinda hilarious you blame them for fielding him when they had no choice. |
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| Pellizotti2 |
Posted on 19-07-2013 23:28
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fickman wrote:
Is the last climb long enaugh to create huge gaps???
It's very hard:
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| Trout80 |
Posted on 20-07-2013 06:09
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XxMillad24Xx wrote:
dienblad wrote:
Furthermore: still no positive doping tests this Tour!!! Something must be wrong with the system, this is not possible....
Spoiler Really hope that all riders are clean, just being sarcastic...
wait 5 years.
2 years should be enough |
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