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TdF'13 Stage 11: Avranches to Mont-Saint-Michel (July 10)
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| Wilier |
Posted on 09-07-2013 18:26
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Froome will win because of his aerodynamic advantage.
Edited by Wilier on 09-07-2013 18:26
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| Malkael |
Posted on 09-07-2013 18:32
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Can definitely scrub Mayer off the list of people who might get a decent placing. Going to ride within himself for later objectives OGE have planned:
"Cam will not go full gas tomorrow. He’ll ride within himself and focus on our plans for him later in the race."
Svein Tuft however is, supposedly, fine for tomorrow:
"Svein is completely fine. We could have used his horsepower in the final, so in terms of our objectives today, it wasn’t ideal to have lost him like that. On the other hand, he was able to sit up and roll in once he lost contact with the field and that saves his legs a bit before the time trial. He’ll be going 100% tomorrow."
Edited by Malkael on 09-07-2013 18:32
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| 9-Ball |
Posted on 09-07-2013 18:39
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Just because it's been a while ...
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It was eleven more than necessary.
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| valverde321 |
Posted on 09-07-2013 18:49
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Now its time to see if Malori was worth the 4 points I spent on him in the Velogames Fantasy competition.
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| Miguel98 |
Posted on 09-07-2013 18:50
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Pretty sure that Malori is already home. |
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| juszta |
Posted on 09-07-2013 18:52
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Miguel98 wrote:
Pretty sure that Malori is already home.
And that is correct  |
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| baseballlover312 |
Posted on 09-07-2013 19:18
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Martin doesn't have the marginal gains that Foome does. I put money on Froomeobt.
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| valverde321 |
Posted on 09-07-2013 19:21
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juszta wrote:
Miguel98 wrote:
Pretty sure that Malori is already home.
And that is correct
Missed him abandoning I guess. 
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| ruben |
Posted on 09-07-2013 19:35
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Froome is not that special in a flat ITT, 2nd behind Martin at "30 or "40..
I have little belief in Contador in a flat ITT this year. He, Valverde, Mollema all concede at least 1'30 or 2 minutes to Froome.
Also doubt Kreuziger, he is looking strong but he hasn't ridden a good itt in a while |
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| Aquarius |
Posted on 09-07-2013 22:16
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Mountain performances : mostly determined by W/kg
Flat TT performances : mostly determined by sheer Watts, and proportional to the frontal surface.
Contador's position has only gone from decent to worst than average for a couple of years. He's too light and doesn't have sufficient W/kg to perform well (this year), something else would be a surprise (unless there are a lot of roundabouts and other technical obstacles that I don't know about).
Froome vs Martin ? Martin probably has a little more sheer power, but how much ? say he could do 5,7 or 5,8 W/kg and weigh 75 kg, that'd be 430 W, whereas Froome can probably do 6,1 but weighs 66, if not less, so that'd be around 400 W.
Also, I'd say that Martin's position must have roughly 5 % less surface than Froome but that's just a wild guess. Difference in speed should be around 4 %, in favour of Martin, I'd say. |
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| jseadog1 |
Posted on 09-07-2013 22:26
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I think it will be Martin, but I actually hope that Froome gets it.. I even bet on him.. Still hoping Contador can manage to win this.
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| Pellizotti2 |
Posted on 09-07-2013 22:29
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jseadog1 wrote:
Still hoping Contador can manage to win this.
The stage or the overall?
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| Naustratze |
Posted on 09-07-2013 22:32
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As we saw in Tour de Suisse, the wind can have a role in a TT, thinking about Martin and Froomes start times. If we say they have equal wind conditions, Martin will be my slight favourite tomorrow, but Froome is going to come close to him. One of the danish commentators said today, that he was sure that Martin won in front of Froome or Kreuziger. I think he overrated Kreuziger a bit, probably through coloured glasses. |
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| sutty68 |
Posted on 09-07-2013 23:01
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Would like to see Froome gain a few more seconds |
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| issoisso |
Posted on 09-07-2013 23:05
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Pellizotti2 wrote:
jseadog1 wrote:
Still hoping Contador can manage to win this.
The stage or the overall?
Either is very unrealistic, but then again people tend to hang on to dreams for long.
After this season we'll still have people saying Contador just had a bad year and will bounce back. Bank on it.
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| FreitasPCM |
Posted on 09-07-2013 23:38
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issoisso wrote:
Pellizotti2 wrote:
jseadog1 wrote:
Still hoping Contador can manage to win this.
The stage or the overall?
Either is very unrealistic, but then again people tend to hang on to dreams for long.
After this season we'll still have people saying Contador just had a bad year and will bounce back. Bank on it.
The only way Contador will win the overall is with a Fuente De style attack, and I believe it is very impossible. This may be one of the last chances Bertie will be a contender for the Tour, in two years time, he'll be around 6th/7th overall. |
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| Jacdk |
Posted on 10-07-2013 01:46
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baseballlover312 wrote:
Alakagom wrote:
Froome's TT hasn't been amazing this year so far, more than solid, but not enough to challenge Martin.
Martin seems to have recovered well enough and should take the win. However that depends how Martin is feeling, and we can't known for sure, we'll just have to see tomorrow.
Froomechkin will be unmatched, just like last year,
You mean where Wiggins put him in his place? with first 2min and then a min.
Where also Evans took .50 sec´s on him. |
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| Jacdk |
Posted on 10-07-2013 01:55
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jseadog1 wrote:
I think it will be Martin, but I actually hope that Froome gets it.. I even bet on him.. Still hoping Contador can manage to win this.
Contador wont win a tour again, unless he gets a new team or some better steaks.
And Contador will lose 1½-2½ min on the winner Froome, followed by Porte, and Martin.
In all honesty i cant believe that people actually still believe in Contador, Froome has this tour in the bag, and its his to lose.
And Froome wont be as stupid as Rodriguez last year in the Vuelta.
So i am willing to bet all my PCM$ that the final top 5 will be
1:Froome
2: Valverde
3: QUINTANA
and 7-8 Contador and Kreuziger. |
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| Jacdk |
Posted on 10-07-2013 01:57
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FreitasPCM wrote:
The only way Contador will win the overall is with a Fuente De style attack, and I believe it is very impossible. This may be one of the last chances Bertie will be a contender for the Tour, in two years time, he'll be around 6th/7th overall.
You mean like now? and where he was on his last tour?
But nah Contador needs to leave the Tour to Froome and Sky and focus 100% on the Giro and Vuelta, they are still decent races and have a lot more mountains then Tour De Flat has.
And if he does that, noone not even Sky will be able to compete with him there. |
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| samdiatmh |
Posted on 10-07-2013 03:19
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Jacdk wrote:
But nah Contador needs to leave the Tour to Froome and Sky and focus 100% on the Giro....... And if he does that, noone not even Sky will be able to compete with him there.
like that certain Nibali guy who won the Giro quite convincingly earlier this season? - i guess he's got no hope |
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