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Tour De France '13 Stage 5: July 3 Cagnes-sur-Mer - Marseille
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| Smowz |
Posted on 03-07-2013 07:32
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I saw the profile for today on the highlights program for yesterdays stage and thought ouch this could be a little tricky for the likes of Kittel in particular.
It is surely not as difficult though as the two Corsican stages, we'll see if the French/non sprinter teams have the energy to rip apart the finale as is their want.
Think this is one for the Gorilla.
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| Avin Wargunnson |
Posted on 03-07-2013 07:33
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Looks like prfect stage for likes of Sagan,Chavanel or Kwiatek again, i can see some of those attacking in the descend to bring them closer to yellow.
I doubt Kittel, Cav and maybe even Gorilla can survive there, even when profile is not extremely tough.
Also as i asked Isso i now ask you Pelli, which injury of Cav you are talking about, i thought he even stayed on his bike in first stage crash. Or i missed something?
Edited by Avin Wargunnson on 03-07-2013 07:34
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| valverde321 |
Posted on 03-07-2013 07:37
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Cav has bronchitis apparently.
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| Avin Wargunnson |
Posted on 03-07-2013 07:39
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valverde321 wrote:
Cav has bronchitis apparently.
So no injury, but sickness? Too bad for him, but at least he have some excuse so far. 
I expect him to bounce back and win two/three stages anyway,but i dont think green is for him this year, we will see.
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| Ian Butler |
Posted on 03-07-2013 07:44
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Cav was on antibiotics a week before the Tour. |
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| Avin Wargunnson |
Posted on 03-07-2013 07:49
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That is bad, why we did not hear that prior to the race? If it is true and he will not be able to be usual self, it is pretty senseless to have majority of team built for him.
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| SportingNonsense |
Posted on 03-07-2013 07:52
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Avin Wargunnson wrote:
That is bad, why we did not hear that prior to the race? If it is true and he will not be able to be usual self, it is pretty senseless to have majority of team built for him.
I get the impression he got Bronchitis the week before the Tour ... after the team was chosen 
Besides, as he himself mentioned, it doesn't make tactical sense before a big goal to inform your rivals of a new weakness.
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| Avin Wargunnson |
Posted on 03-07-2013 07:58
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SportingNonsense wrote:
Avin Wargunnson wrote:
That is bad, why we did not hear that prior to the race? If it is true and he will not be able to be usual self, it is pretty senseless to have majority of team built for him.
I get the impression he got Bronchitis the week before the Tour ... after the team was chosen
Besides, as he himself mentioned, it doesn't make tactical sense before a big goal to inform your rivals of a new weakness.
Yeah, it was too late anyway to make some changes. Hopefully he will get better and we will see some of his usual sprints, his biggest problem will be to get near to the line probably.
Or OPQS will swith focus and Chava, Velits, Kwiatek and others will jump in many breaks.
Edit: What you said about not revealing weakness is true, but i dont get it much, he is weak anyway, so no matter if it is said or not. I dont like this much, because it always make me think that rider is possibly lying. But that is many cases, Kreuziger for example is doing this often. He is always ready to be best in his words and after few bad stages, he is ill for weeks. 
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| SportingNonsense |
Posted on 03-07-2013 08:26
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Avin Wargunnson wrote:
Edit: What you said about not revealing weakness is true, but i dont get it much, he is weak anyway, so no matter if it is said or not. I dont like this much, because it always make me think that rider is possibly lying. But that is many cases, Kreuziger for example is doing this often. He is always ready to be best in his words and after few bad stages, he is ill for weeks.
Cav has clearly been below par on his climbing so far, so calling him a liar because he has provided a reason for his struggles, is a bit much. You can't just distrust riders over everything!
Had he revealed it before Stage 1, people would potentially tried to test him out more. As it happens, that was irrelevant anyway.
Imo, an in form Cav would have stood a chance on Stage 2 had it been ridden at a slower pace. Others knowing he had an illness would have guaranteed a faster pace there. Again it turned out to be irrelevant since there was a fast pace on the climbs anyway, and the fact that he was dropped before the likes of Kittel ended up giving away the fact that he isnt currently at his best. Hence, no longer any reason not to mention it.
OPQS won't switch focus. A top form Cav is still the best sprinter, and he should only improve through the race. But there should still continue to be opportunities for the others to do their own thing, as they did on the hilly Corsica stages.
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| SotD |
Posted on 03-07-2013 08:30
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The stage profile looks harmless when you don't trust letour.fr
https://sporten.tv2.dk/tour/2013-06-13...-marseille
The final "climb" looks fairly easy and I would estimate the final part of it to be somewhere around 3-4%. That shouldn't be a problem at all for Cavendish and Greipel. I have even picked Kittel in my managergame. There are no real interest in the stage I suppose. No chance to take the mountainsjersey for anyone else than those already in contention - and I'm pretty sure that Lotto and Omega is hungry for a sprint finish. Can't see this going down any other way.
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| Jesleyh |
Posted on 03-07-2013 08:46
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Wow, the official profile turned out to be almost a Tour of Turkey-profile
Spoiler Hmm, is it a mountain stage? Well looks like it... Oh wait, look at the altitude meters.
Right, I'll go for uhhmm... Bouhanni today then.
(Because going for Cav is too mainstream )
Edited by Jesleyh on 03-07-2013 08:47
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| Tjoertszc |
Posted on 03-07-2013 08:53
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SotD wrote:
The stage profile looks harmless when you don't trust letour.fr
https://sporten.tv2.dk/tour/2013-06-13...-marseille
The final "climb" looks fairly easy and I would estimate the final part of it to be somewhere around 3-4%. That shouldn't be a problem at all for Cavendish and Greipel. I have even picked Kittel in my managergame. There are no real interest in the stage I suppose. No chance to take the mountainsjersey for anyone else than those already in contention - and I'm pretty sure that Lotto and Omega is hungry for a sprint finish. Can't see this going down any other way.
First 2km and final 1.3km are "hard", while the middle is just rolling uphill. Had it been a hill with 3.3km 6% gradient towards the end, it might have been more decisive, but the middle part changes everything.
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| Kirchen_75 |
Posted on 03-07-2013 08:54
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I think we are gonna see some crosswind action today. Peloton gonna split |
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| Tjoertszc |
Posted on 03-07-2013 08:57
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Kirchen_75 wrote:
I think we are gonna see some crosswind action today. Peloton gonna split
Could have been fun, but the forecast says a mild headwind for most of the course. Slight crosswind in some parts, but they do not ride close enough to the shore for the wind to have that much of an impact. |
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| Spilak23 |
Posted on 03-07-2013 09:19
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It's not the final hill that will be decisive. There are no flat parts on the route, always up and down. Combine that with the length and I think some sprinters won't make it to the finish
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| Iguwell |
Posted on 03-07-2013 09:55
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Spilak23 wrote:
It's not the final hill that will be decisive. There are no flat parts on the route, always up and down. Combine that with the length and I think some sprinters won't make it to the finish
The only reason it looks likea hilly stage is the length. It's narrowed in which makes every hill look at alot steeper than it is.
This route coins hills at 2-4% which is easy for robust sprinters like Greipel. I think that Cavendish will have a big stamina problem today though. |
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| byterone |
Posted on 03-07-2013 10:27
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i think this one is for Peter Sagan... everybody seems to forget that in the only sprint he was able to finish properly he had to take gerrans wheel cannondale is not doing a proper job in seting up the sprint... i hope today is a different story...
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| sutty68 |
Posted on 03-07-2013 10:29
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I think Sagan will go all out for victory today |
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| Jesleyh |
Posted on 03-07-2013 10:30
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If Cav survives, I don't think anyone else has a really big chance to beat him, he's just the best and his leadout train seems good as well
But right, Tom Dumoulin will attack 1,5km from the finish this time, and wins the stage
Edited by Jesleyh on 03-07-2013 10:32
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| byterone |
Posted on 03-07-2013 10:40
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Jesleyh wrote:
If Cav survives, I don't think anyone else has a really big chance to beat him, he's just the best and his leadout train seems good as well
But right, Tom Dumoulin will attack 1,5km from the finish this time, and wins the stage
I think you are right... Cav is undoubtedly the best finisher.. but i think sagan with a good leadout train could be the only one to pose a threat... in this finish i think sagan has probably the edge over cav
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