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| Montolivo |
Posted on 18-04-2013 08:41
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It's incredible that a team like Vini Fantini (Santambrogio, Garzelli, Taborre, Rabottini) doesn't get a invite. Should be a secure team for the hilly classics. |
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| Ian Butler |
Posted on 18-04-2013 08:59
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I'd say Nibali, looking at last year's (almost) result, but looking at the facts, I think we might end up with another Kreuziger or Ciolek. |
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| ianrussell |
Posted on 18-04-2013 09:20
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samdiatmh wrote:
ianrussell wrote:
If Nibali is commited before the Giro he is clearly going very well already.
i wouldn't say that, if that's true, he's peaked too early... i don't think that's the case
The training data of Nibali and more importantly yesterday's performance suggests both him and Wiggins are in great shape it compares well with recent GT winning performances. Doubt it's a problem both have shown they can hold their form well. |
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| Ollfardh |
Posted on 18-04-2013 09:34
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Andy Schleck is going to win a huge attack on Roche aux Faucons.
Changed my sig, this was getting absurd.
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| cactus-jack |
Posted on 18-04-2013 09:54
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Ollfardh, that sentence makes absolutely no sense.
There's a fine line between "psychotherapist" and "psycho the rapist"
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| Pellizotti2 |
Posted on 18-04-2013 09:58
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Even ignoring the part where Andy somehow suddenly gains form with rocketspeed, it's still impossible for him to attack on Roche-aux-Faucons, because it's not included in the route this year. 
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| issoisso |
Posted on 18-04-2013 10:56
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Ollfardh wrote:
Andy Schleck is going to win a huge attack on Roche aux Faucons.
And then he'll look at it and say "Meh I don't need this" and give it to his brother
The preceding post is ISSO 9001 certified
"I love him, I think he's great. He's transformed the sport in so many ways. Every person in cycling has benefitted from Lance Armstrong, perhaps not financially but in some sense" - Bradley Wiggins on Lance Armstrong
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| cactus-jack |
Posted on 18-04-2013 11:21
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Pellizotti2 wrote:
Even ignoring the part where Andy somehow suddenly gains form with rocketspeed, it's still impossible for him to attack on Roche-aux-Faucons, because it's not included in the route this year.
Simple, he'll abandon and go race a route of his own, alone. And then get dropped by his own shadow.
There's a fine line between "psychotherapist" and "psycho the rapist"
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| TheManxMissile |
Posted on 18-04-2013 11:25
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cactus-jack wrote:
Simple, he'll abandon and go race a route of his own, alone. And then get
dropped by his own shadow.
But he is already a shadow of his former self, so to speak metaphysically he has already been dropped by himself o.O
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| Lachi |
Posted on 18-04-2013 11:32
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I wish Andy would read this... |
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| Ian Butler |
Posted on 18-04-2013 11:38
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If he does:
Andy, can I have your bike? I would get so much more pleasure out of it, I'm sure |
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| cactus-jack |
Posted on 18-04-2013 11:54
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TheManxMissile wrote:
cactus-jack wrote:
Simple, he'll abandon and go race a route of his own, alone. And then get
dropped by his own shadow.
But he is already a shadow of his former self, so to speak metaphysically he has already been dropped by himself o.O
So basicly, Andy Schleck is so bad he's being dropped by himself. However, since his former self is a reflection of his current self, does that mean his former self inturn will also deteriorate performancevice as his current self only gets worse? And will that cause the current Andy to regain ground against his former self?
I believe we have reached an impass, the singularity, a quantum loop regarding Schleck. A metaphorical "Schloop" if you will.
There's a fine line between "psychotherapist" and "psycho the rapist"
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| TheManxMissile |
Posted on 18-04-2013 12:02
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cactus-jack wrote:
TheManxMissile wrote:
cactus-jack wrote:
Simple, he'll abandon and go race a route of his own, alone. And then get
dropped by his own shadow.
But he is already a shadow of his former self, so to speak metaphysically he has already been dropped by himself o.O
So basicly, Andy Schleck is so bad he's being dropped by himself. However, since his former self is a reflection of his current self, does that mean his former self inturn will also deteriorate performancevice as his current self only gets worse? And will that cause the current Andy to regain ground against his former self?
I believe we have reached an impass, the singularity, a quantum loop regarding Schleck. A metaphorical "Schloop" if you will.
Your past (former) self cannot be changed by current actions, it is a fixed status. so your argument is invalid.
He can improve in the future so that he can then drop his former self again for a second time, whilst still being dropped by his former self again o.O "dropception"
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| Spilak23 |
Posted on 18-04-2013 12:06
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Just checked the results again and apparently, he attacked away from the group were he was before the Mur to finish 30" in front of them.
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| cactus-jack |
Posted on 18-04-2013 12:12
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TheManxMissile wrote:
cactus-jack wrote:
TheManxMissile wrote:
cactus-jack wrote:
Simple, he'll abandon and go race a route of his own, alone. And then get
dropped by his own shadow.
But he is already a shadow of his former self, so to speak metaphysically he has already been dropped by himself o.O
So basicly, Andy Schleck is so bad he's being dropped by himself. However, since his former self is a reflection of his current self, does that mean his former self inturn will also deteriorate performancevice as his current self only gets worse? And will that cause the current Andy to regain ground against his former self?
I believe we have reached an impass, the singularity, a quantum loop regarding Schleck. A metaphorical "Schloop" if you will.
Your past (former) self cannot be changed by current actions, it is a fixed status. so your argument is invalid.
He can improve in the future so that he can then drop his former self again for a second time, whilst still being dropped by his former self again o.O "dropception"
But your former self is not a singular entity, it's a combination of all that you once were, unlike your current self which is only "one". Who says that your current self needs to be the "best version of you", you are at all times competing against all your former "selfsess". That in turn means that Andy has dropped his former self many times whilst at the same time been dropped by his former self many times.
There's a fine line between "psychotherapist" and "psycho the rapist"
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| TheManxMissile |
Posted on 18-04-2013 12:24
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cactus-jack wrote:
TheManxMissile wrote:
cactus-jack wrote:
TheManxMissile wrote:
cactus-jack wrote:
Simple, he'll abandon and go race a route of his own, alone. And then get
dropped by his own shadow.
But he is already a shadow of his former self, so to speak metaphysically he has already been dropped by himself o.O
So basicly, Andy Schleck is so bad he's being dropped by himself. However, since his former self is a reflection of his current self, does that mean his former self inturn will also deteriorate performancevice as his current self only gets worse? And will that cause the current Andy to regain ground against his former self?
I believe we have reached an impass, the singularity, a quantum loop regarding Schleck. A metaphorical "Schloop" if you will.
Your past (former) self cannot be changed by current actions, it is a fixed status. so your argument is invalid.
He can improve in the future so that he can then drop his former self again for a second time, whilst still being dropped by his former self again o.O "dropception"
But your former self is not a singular entity, it's a combination of all that you once were, unlike your current self which is only "one". Who says that your current self needs to be the "best version of you", you are at all times competing against all your former "selfsess". That in turn means that Andy has dropped his former self many times whilst at the same time been dropped by his former self many times.
Unless you are talking about a specific part of your former self, in which case they cannot be altered by action, only perception. Also at the same moment you cannot perceive your current self as that is constantly changing, so you can then only compare former selves against other former selves...
So Andy is constantly both dropping and being dropped by all his past selves and his current self simultaneously...
Unless his perceptions of his former selves are altered, so he could theoretically be re-dropping and being re-dropped by different him-selves, again continuously and simultaneously. And this would happen in a repeated pattern for every new self created as he moves forwards in time in an exponentially increasing number, fundamentally making the whole concept worthless as there will be equal numbers of all sides of the concept.
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| cio93 |
Posted on 18-04-2013 12:27
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What. The. Fuck.
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| TheManxMissile |
Posted on 18-04-2013 12:28
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cio93 wrote:
What. The. Fuck.
I feel the joke may have got out of hand a little there....
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| Ian Butler |
Posted on 18-04-2013 12:30
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TheManxMissile wrote:
cio93 wrote:
What. The. Fuck.
I feel the joke may have got out of hand a little there....
No... 
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| cactus-jack |
Posted on 18-04-2013 12:37
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TheManxMissile wrote:
cio93 wrote:
What. The. Fuck.
I feel the joke may have got out of hand a little there....
Yes, we might have taken it a bit too far...
There's a fine line between "psychotherapist" and "psycho the rapist"
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