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Posted on 10-08-2012 23:06
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Nah he's held a British passport from birth, but he's made clear that he considers Kenya his spiritual home if not in a technical/national sense.. and he still has strong ties to many people in Kenya. Just look at the comments on his website to see the inspiration he's provided. |
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baseballlover312 |
Posted on 10-08-2012 23:07
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pcm2009fan wrote:
Nah he's held a British passport from birth, but he's made clear that he considers Kenya his spiritual home if not in a technical/national sense.. and he still has strong ties to many people in Kenya. Just look at the comments on his website to see the inspiration he's provided.
So why doesn't he represent them?
Edited by baseballlover312 on 10-08-2012 23:07
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pcm2009fan |
Posted on 10-08-2012 23:08
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Because he's not a Kenyan national and never technically has been. |
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felix_29 |
Posted on 10-08-2012 23:11
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pcm2009fan wrote:
Because he's not a Kenyan national and never technically has been.
You know that you wrote bullshit there, don´t you?
Back to topic, i have to say Jens Voigt. No explanation necessary.
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pcm2009fan |
Posted on 10-08-2012 23:11
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“My roots are Kenyan, my way of being is Kenyan but I am not the first Kenyan to do the Tour de France. Let’s say I’m the first rider from Kenya to do the Tour de France. But my first race, I rode it and won it, it was in Kenya” |
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issoisso |
Posted on 10-08-2012 23:12
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baseballlover312 wrote:
pcm2009fan wrote:
Nah he's held a British passport from birth, but he's made clear that he considers Kenya his spiritual home if not in a technical/national sense.. and he still has strong ties to many people in Kenya. Just look at the comments on his website to see the inspiration he's provided.
So why doesn't he represent them?
Changing sports here, same reason Nico Rosberg went from "I've never felt an attachment to any country" to "I feel german". He smelled an opportunity with a german team.
Same reason Paul di resta this season changed from having an italian flag painted on his helmet and constantly referring to himself as italian, to having a Union Jack on his helmet and saying he's "a proud brit"....he sense a job with a british team.
Froome knew "being" british would open doors for him
pcm2009fan wrote:
Because he's not a Kenyan national and never technically has been.
Uh, no. Notice the Kenya jersey in one of the most hilarious moments in the history of cycling for those of us lucky to have seen it live
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"I love him, I think he's great. He's transformed the sport in so many ways. Every person in cycling has benefitted from Lance Armstrong, perhaps not financially but in some sense" - Bradley Wiggins on Lance Armstrong
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pcm2009fan |
Posted on 10-08-2012 23:18
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Jeez I hate to argue but I'm being bullshitted at here... Froome is nationally British and always has been. Of course he once represented Kenya, as well as South Africa (I believe?), just like I, as a true Scot, could represent Ireland in sports through my parenthood. In his early career as an unknown African cyclist, riding under African teams, it would have made much more sense and ease to do so.
Edit: That moment was classic... another 'plus' to why I love his story
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Posted on 10-08-2012 23:22
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There, he looks like a spider in that photo, again (!).
Interesting responses, some predictable I guess but it also shows the focus on much more recent riders. I guess not so many of us are that OLD?
It was eleven more than necessary.
Jacques Anquetil
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felix_29 |
Posted on 10-08-2012 23:27
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pcm2009fan wrote:
Jeez I hate to argue but I'm being bullshitted at here... Froome is nationally British and always has been. Of course he once represented Kenya, as well as South Africa (I believe?), just like I, as a true Scot, could represent Ireland in sports through my parenthood. In his early career as an unknown African cyclist, riding under African teams, it would have made much more sense and ease to do so.
Edit: That moment was classic... another 'plus' to why I love his story
Let me quote his twitter-account:
@chrisfroome
British (ex-Kenyan) professional cyclist (...)
Of course, he never ever has been Kenyan.
But you definatly made me laugh tonight.
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Posted on 10-08-2012 23:30
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I've always liked Nicholas Roche. Also have a soft spot for Andrey Amador because of this year's Giro and coming back stronger from that assault a while ago. |
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solano |
Posted on 10-08-2012 23:36
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I'll show my age.
My all time favourite cyclist is Miguel Indurain. I just loved his temperament and he looked good on a bike.
Also from that era, Chiappucci, Bugno, Jalabert and Gert Jan Theunisse.
In recent times I've loved watching Cav's sprint wins but also Thor Hushovd's performances in the Tour; really gutsy. |
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pcm2009fan |
Posted on 10-08-2012 23:40
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felix_29 wrote:
Let me quote his twitter-account:
@chrisfroome
British ( ex-Kenyan) professional cyclist (...)
Of course, he never ever has been Kenyan.
But you definatly made me laugh tonight.
Sorry to persist, but just to clear up once and for all...
“My roots are Kenyan, my way of being is Kenyan but I am not the first Kenyan to do the Tour de France. Let’s say I’m the first rider from Kenya to do the Tour de France. But my first race, I rode it and won it, it was in Kenya”
And again...
“Although I was riding under the Kenyan flag I made it clear that I had always carried a British passport and felt British. It was then that I talked about racing under the Union Jack, and we stayed in touch.”
Apologies to SweatyViking for sidetracking your thread... but I think I'm being picked on here by people who seem to think their post-count makes them far more knowledgeable than the kid who wasn't even witty enough to think up a decent username... |
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Posted on 10-08-2012 23:43
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Andy Schleck, He attacks and attacks again, including the brave attack in stage 18 at the tour."move over motorbike i am going faster than you and im going to ride myself back into this race" - Phil Liggett
Lance Armstrong because of his battle with cancer and his dedication to hard work (shutup about doping until he is proven guilty)
Peter Sagan, this guy is awesome and a superstar to be for a long time
Fabian "Spartacus" Cancellara. This guy is an absolute beast of a human being. Tries to ride everyone off his wheel
Jens Voigt. Because he is Jens Voigt, Great guy and is willing to literally ride himself into the ground for his leader.
"Cycling is now the the world's cleanest sport." - Chris Froome
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Posted on 10-08-2012 23:44
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Those first two will find you well accepted here. |
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issoisso |
Posted on 10-08-2012 23:49
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pcm2009fan wrote:
Jeez I hate to argue but I'm being bullshitted at here... Froome is nationally British and always has been. Of course he once represented Kenya, as well as South Africa (I believe?), just like I, as a true Scot, could represent Ireland in sports through my parenthood. In his early career as an unknown African cyclist, riding under African teams, it would have made much more sense and ease to do so.
Bulshitted? Dude, you said he's not nor has ever been a Kenyan national.
He has a kenyan passport, as proven by the fact that he rode for Kenya.
You can argue he's "not really kenyan" all you want, but when you said he's not a kenyan national, that's a completely different ballgame, you jumped from subjective opinion to cold hard fact.
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Apologies to SweatyViking for sidetracking your thread... but I think I'm being picked on here by people who seem to think their post-count makes them far more knowledgeable than the kid who wasn't even witty enough to think up a decent username...
Oh for god's sake what does post count have to do with anything?
You want my post count? Have it, it's yours. Ask an admin to switch ours
What sad sad person makes judgements based on post count, seriously? I. Could. Not. Care. Less.
You claimed some information that is factually wrong
People showed you this. That's all this is.
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pcm2009fan |
Posted on 10-08-2012 23:55
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you are making yourself look ridiculously spiteful. I think you are badly mis-interpreting what I was meaning in my last post, whilst even ignoring what Froome himself had to said on the matter... [edit- "I had always carried a British passport"]
I'll try an old trick that a certain lover of all things baseball related taught me so as not to derail the thread:
Edited by pcm2009fan on 10-08-2012 23:59
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issoisso |
Posted on 11-08-2012 00:00
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Spiteful?
Fine, have it your way. I have no patience to argue with five year olds who like to pretend people can't have two passports.
Edited by issoisso on 11-08-2012 00:00
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sutty68 |
Posted on 11-08-2012 00:02
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When i was younger (a lot younger) my cycling hero was Robert Millar, so thats why i was always good at climbing |
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valverde321 |
Posted on 11-08-2012 00:03
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Another thread derailed by Sky talk
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pcm2009fan |
Posted on 11-08-2012 00:10
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I'll take the blame for that, sorry.
And whilst I'm at it... I'm surprised no-one has mentioned Ricco yet
Several Deep Breaths Later....
Just to clear up so I don't look like a dufos here for wasting a good page of the interwebs... The source of all the commotion was the issue of dual-passports (and my ignorance thereafter)!
After a PM or 2, I think we can all eventually agree that Froome likely acquired a dual-Kenyan passport earlier in his career, for practical reasons.
But he certainly didn't actively 'ditch' Kenya at any point (and like I say, he had actually ditched his fully British nationality in benefit of his early career!) So in many eyes he rightfully remains a great inspiration to the nation (which was what was initially being questioned all those lightyears ago )
Problem solved (I hope!)
And apologies again SweatyViking and others. It was bad etiquette on my part.
Edited by pcm2009fan on 11-08-2012 01:48
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