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La Vuelta 2012 expectations
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| CountArach |
Posted on 24-07-2012 12:33
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Contador will win by minutes. It will be a race for second which I think Froome will win. I don't think De Gendt will get the same sort of freedom which he got in the Giro.
Edited by CountArach on 24-07-2012 12:33
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| acac |
Posted on 24-07-2012 12:45
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i think this is going to be the GC:
1)contador
2)froome
3)de gendt
4)cobo
5)nibali(if he starts of course) |
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| housoe |
Posted on 24-07-2012 12:57
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Of the guys who are sure to participate i think five guys can challenge for the win.
Contador
+ Many mountain top finishes, the best gt rider of the bunch, got timetrial. Will be really motivated to show he is the best. Team motivated, and helper s saved to peak for the vuelta.
- Right back from suspension, no racing form can he last 3 weeks
Froome
+ Number 2 last year, were he arguable was the strongest rider. Shown superhuman strengt in the Tour, great in the mountains great timetrial.
Great team support in Uran and Henao.
- riden the tour can he also peack for the Vuelta and if can he last 3 har weeks more? Not that much Timetrial and all mountain stages are summit finishes.
Rodriguez
+ The route fits him perfectly, many summit finishes and not that hard mountain stages. Not that much timetrial.
- Do he dare attack before the last kilometer and risk loosing the stage win.
Rode the giro, has that been to hard. Terible in the timetrial, even though he been better this year
Cobo
+ Last years winner, big goal for the season, have to show he is worth the big Contract.
- Have not shown any form this year. Have not been on top level for a longer period in his career.
Anton
+ perfect route, big goal of the season, have to start winning.
- haven't shown anything this season. Have to be better that Froome and Cantador in the mountains because of the timetrial.
Last there is the question about IF Schelck or Samuel Sanchez, comes both could challenge but i odn't think they will be able to get in shape to challenge for the overall win. But really hope so could be epic if both came in top shape to join the fun.
I think Cantador will win, and Froome to finish second for his third GT in a row, Anton to finish the podium unfortunately i don't think he can win in this field. Rodriguez to win 3-4 stages.
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| Teddy The Creator |
Posted on 24-07-2012 13:06
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Ybodonk wrote:
Teddy Contador did ride in the beginning of this year, and the end of last year. Its like 6-7months max without racing competition.
Not 12 months at all. Thats why i dont think he is affected by the quarantine
I forgot about San Luis for Contador, but according to CQ he hasn't raced at all since the Tour (other than San Luis obviously). So 12 months just about.
And I think we're all forgetting, Alberto can't eat his trusty clenbutosteaks this year, so that will probably effect his performance. 
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| abel2323 |
Posted on 24-07-2012 13:14
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Participants
Sure---------Maybe
Contador ------- A.Schleck
Froome -------- Valverde
V.d. Broeck-------Zubeldia
Gesink --------- Kreuziger
Cobo
Molemma
De Gendt
Anton
Joaquim R.
Cunego
Quintana
Henao
Uran
Samuel sanchez(sure) and Nibali won't ride it
Edited by abel2323 on 24-07-2012 13:17
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| Avin Wargunnson |
Posted on 24-07-2012 13:55
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Kreuziger is going for 90%, he could be the good top 10 bet, if he is able to avoid his classical one/two bad days in the mountains. Or he can hunt stage win there.
Contador will be huge favourite for me, no matter how long he doesn not raced with the others, he will be in form.
Froome is the only one in the world now who could possibly challenge him imo, so he and those mentioned above are the ones to watch. 
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| sutty68 |
Posted on 24-07-2012 14:10
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It will be nice to see how Froome performs with not being in the shadow of Wiggins  |
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| ruben |
Posted on 24-07-2012 15:29
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Aquarius wrote:
Ybodonk wrote:
I dont see Froome beating Contador. If he can do that then Froome will have to find a completely new mountain level that havent been seen before.
That's assuming Contador would be at his 2010 or pre-2010 level, not his 2011 one. That's a bold assumption.
If Contador is at his 2011 level, or even worst for him : below, he stands no chance against Froome, provided, once again, that Froome has his TDF level.
Giro 2011 Contador would beat Froome's ass. So that's bs. Maybe you forgot he rode 2011 Tour with already a Giro in his leggs? (where he easily destroyed Nibali uphill and could even ride at 90% the last 3 mountain stages because the lead was too big...)
So I don't get the whole Contador wasn't at a good level in 2011 bullshit.
Yes he wasn't good in the Tour, but with the amount of race days he had and the amount of races he had gone full in, that's normal.
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| ruben |
Posted on 24-07-2012 15:31
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Also I see nobody mention Gesink, who made a goal out of the Vuelta after quitting the Tour. He's already training at normal capacity again...
Think Gesink is better than a guy like De Gendt on a course like this with 10+ mt stages |
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| diallito |
Posted on 24-07-2012 15:44
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I don't think that VDB or De Gent will participate for the GC.
De Gent wil certainly go for a stage win |
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| johnnyjur |
Posted on 24-07-2012 15:54
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Interesting route and a lots of good riders. What about Hesjedal? He didn't actually ride much of the Tour, but will he try the vuelta as well, or is the vuelta up to Martin, Danielson and others?
Will Menchov compete? He had a crap tour, and we all know he's a good vuelta rider.
Really looking forward to this vuelta now. A bit predictable tour, so I hope for some really good action and agressive riding.
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| Pellizotti2 |
Posted on 24-07-2012 15:56
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I'll wait for a startlist before I go for a prediction.
I'm pretty sure Contador will destroy everyone no matter what though.
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| I_Mayo |
Posted on 24-07-2012 15:59
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ruben wrote:
Also I see nobody mention Gesink, who made a goal out of the Vuelta after quitting the Tour. He's already training at normal capacity again...
Think Gesink is better than a guy like De Gendt on a course like this with 10+ mt stages
The only thing that imo stands in his way is the fact that stage 3 and 4 are mountain stages and you have brought yourself how he doesn't perform well in first stages. Fortunately for him, stages aren't that hard and I don't see him losing there more then 1.30. |
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| ruben |
Posted on 24-07-2012 16:07
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Why wouldn't he perform well in the first stages? Never had that problem. Only had that problem when he just came off altitude camp in Dauphine 2011 and again in Suisse 2012, but that's because he returned from altitude 1 day before race start.
Nibali was crap the entire Dauphine when he just came off altitude. So i guess that's normal. (Wiggins wasn't crap because they had a few more days between altitude & dauphine)
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| fickman |
Posted on 24-07-2012 16:37
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I think Froome will win this. Contador will be alone against the Sky Train. With Uran and Henao for the last kms should be enaugh to control Contador. In the TDF everyone said Wiggins hasnt any chances against Nivali, VDB and other top Climbers and thanxs to the Sky Train he droped them all.
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| Pellizotti2 |
Posted on 24-07-2012 17:04
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fickman wrote:
I think Froome will win this. Contador will be alone against the Sky Train. With Uran and Henao for the last kms should be enaugh to control Contador. In the TDF everyone said Wiggins hasnt any chances against Nivali, VDB and other top Climbers and thanxs to the Sky Train he droped them all.
You can't compare Contador to Nibali and Van den Broeck. He's a far better climber than them.
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| Billopoulos |
Posted on 24-07-2012 17:07
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Every rider that has not completed the Tour, had/has enough time to get ready for the Vuelta, without having any problem in the early difficult stages.
I just hope Gesink is at last in perfect form and ready to compete for a GT. |
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| ggDonovan |
Posted on 24-07-2012 17:07
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fickman wrote:
I think Froome will win this. Contador will be alone against the Sky Train. With Uran and Henao for the last kms should be enaugh to control Contador. In the TDF everyone said Wiggins hasnt any chances against Nivali, VDB and other top Climbers and thanxs to the Sky Train he droped them all.
Nibali and VDB aren't Contador. Uran and Henao aren't Porte and Rogers. Froome isn't Wiggins.
He still have to prove himself as he didn't win anything at all and he has always come from behind. We all have to see how he performs when he's on the spot light.
I'm a little bit sceptical with Froome. We have to see how he hold the race mentally and obiously physically as Giro+Tour and Tour+Vuelta aren't the best preparation possible.
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| Pellizotti2 |
Posted on 24-07-2012 17:12
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ggDonovan wrote:
Nibali and VDB aren't Contador. Uran and Henao aren't Porte and Rogers. Froome isn't Wiggins.
I agree on this, apart from the "Froome isn't Wiggins". Imo, Froome is a better version of Wiggins, if you discount timetrialling.
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| sutty68 |
Posted on 24-07-2012 17:20
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Pellizotti2 wrote:
ggDonovan wrote:
Nibali and VDB aren't Contador. Uran and Henao aren't Porte and Rogers. Froome isn't Wiggins.
I agree on this, apart from the "Froome isn't Wiggins". Imo, Froome is a better version of Wiggins, if you discount timetrialling.
Totally agree, Froome is by far the better climber and from the TDF TT's there wasn't an amazing difference, just a slight one |
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