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Your suggestion for the TdF route 2011
Wiggo
jph27 wrote:
A visit to Corsica would also be nice, a bit of a change. Smile


Love Corsica, agreed.
 
schleck93
Next year is the 100th year of the Alps in the tour, so expect a big things from there. Probably 4 stages like this years Pyrenees. We know there will be a stage finish on Alpe D'Huez and that they will go over Galibier. They come from the south side of the mountains, and they will be trying to use some of the mountains from the old days. So I could see a stage possibly starting in Gap going over Vars, Izoard, Lautaret and ending on Alpe D'Huez, not too long and with "mythical" mountains like Alpe D'Huez and Izoard. The next day they could recreate Fausto Coppis "solo" stage from Bourg D'Oisans to Sestriere going over Croix de fer, Telegraphe-Galibier, montegenevre and ending in Sestriere. A stage that Coppi rode solo for most of the day and won with 8 minutes, similar to the stage to Pau this year that was a recreation of a classical Merkcx stage, where he also rode solo most of the day and won with 7 minutes. Those two stages I could see happening, and they would be awesome to see with Mountains most of the day and only short sections of flat in between, if any.
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SportingNonsense
kumazan wrote:
Contador lost 1'52'' with Menchov, and he had 2'01'' at the end. With another ITT with ~50 km, the outcome could have been very close.


Worth remembering though that that was one of the few times Menchov has beaten Contador in time trial - and probably one of Contador's worst ever time trials.


Corsica you suspect will be used sooner rather than later - perhaps in 2013 to start the 100th edition of the Tour?
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doddy13
issoisso wrote:
To elaborate on the Puy de Dôme:

They now have the technology to have finishes on tiny spaces. The previously unthinkable Tourmalet was the first test. Next year, a hill in the Vendée region will be the second test.

Preudhomme, who said all this, finished by saying "If it goes well, we can start thinking of stage finishes on the Puy de Dôme or Port de Balès"

(EDIT: Sorry, I don't know why I wrote Port de Balès. He said Port de Pailhéres)



yeah, he said this to L'Equipe.
This technology is the reason why you had a stage to Tourmalet this year, all the big media centres etc. that makes the tour huge was based down the mountain (La mongie I believe), and the technology exists that the finish can be in one place, and the media centre + non essential stuff can be a bit down the road.

As for my suggestion: No more nullifying one mountain range.
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kumazan
SportingNonsense wrote:
kumazan wrote:
Contador lost 1'52'' with Menchov, and he had 2'01'' at the end. With another ITT with ~50 km, the outcome could have been very close.


Worth remembering though that that was one of the few times Menchov has beaten Contador in time trial - and probably one of Contador's worst ever time trials.


True. But it's also true that Contaddor didn't seem to be as strong as in 2009 in the mountains, so, by the same logic, we shouldn't think that Schleck can beat Contador in the future.

It's worth remembering too, that I don't like Schleck, nor I like when a pure climber wins a GT, so I concede I'm a bit biased here.

I still want my ~100 km of ITT in a GT, though. Pfft
 
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the ideal tdf is one that only one rider finishes
 
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E_Hagen
I think it would be nice to go into some of the 'backyards' of France. There are so many areas of france relatively undiscovered by the Tour, that has some nice climbs, like Correze, Lot and Creuse.
 
Ste117
I would like to see a finish on the Col de Madalaine, proved a tough climb this year that seen alot of action, also I would like to see a ITT up Mount Ventoux but with Alpe Du'Huez in next years tour, can't see Ventoux featuring would be nice to mark 100 years though a ITT up greusome baldy himself.
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itsmichael
the tour will start next year in vendee, and stays 3 days in bretagne... with finishes in Redon, Mur-de-Bretagne and Cap Frehel... after those stages they will move to Normandie

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Ste117
Also apparently according to Wikipedia that the TTT is back around Les Essarts.
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valverde321
Hautacam MTF, Alpe 'd'Huez MTF, Ventoux MTF and a Prato Nevoso appearance again.

And what Crommy said.
 
Maximka
TTT and stage with cobblestones
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doddy13
itsmichael wrote:
the tour will start next year in vendee, and stays 3 days in bretagne... with finishes in Redon, Mur-de-Bretagne and Cap Frehel... after those stages they will move to Normandie

Source: Quest-France


Don't believe it for a moment Wink
This time of year every French region thinks they have a stage. Only belive if it carries on in early October
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Ste117
Whens the presentation for next years tour
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doddy13
Ste117 wrote:
Whens the presentation for next years tour


October 13th I think.
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Aquarius
doddy13 wrote:
itsmichael wrote:
the tour will start next year in vendee, and stays 3 days in bretagne... with finishes in Redon, Mur-de-Bretagne and Cap Frehel... after those stages they will move to Normandie

Source: Quest-France


Don't believe it for a moment Wink
This time of year every French region thinks they have a stage. Only belive if it carries on in early October
It's Ouest France (West France) not Quest France, you French-language-reluctant people. Pfft
A hilly finish was scheduled in Châteaulin (the town hosting the Boucles de l'Aulne) although it was actually in Cast (my 1500 souls very home town !).
(Un)fortunately, we learnt last Friday that after months of talking, ASO wouldn't have a stage finish there, because of the excessive controversy about the finishing place, which is a protected one. It would have requested 2000 m² of extra macadam, or something like that, on a private place.
Too bad (?), as the site was then supposed to host a stage finish every 6 years or so.
That final climb was known as "mine" for as long as I rode there, btw.

Now, there'll be a stage starting in Lorient (on the West Southern coast of Brittany), and ending up in Mur de Bretagne (middle of Brittany, more or less, with a tough hill somewhere around that they did in 2004). The next stage will start in Carhaix (don't you pronounce the final X, it sounds like Jim Carrey, more or less), somewhere in Western Central Brittany, it's not known yet where it'll finish.

Cap Fréhel is a nice place to ride, did a classic there when I was a U17, good memories. Smile No indication there'll be a stage finish there at all though.
 
felix_29
I once read a parody with some good ideas:

-one month before the tour starts, cyclist who participate have to go in a kind of prision, so they cannot use any dope; after finishing the stages they´re video-controlled
-day 1: an 250km stage with many montains in the Alps, with a 70km TT for day 2, so that escapees have a real chance during the next weeks
-last week as usual
-anybody who cheats gets imprisioned in Guantanamo
Pfft

Seriously, Puy de Dome would be great, and isn´t there enogh space at the foot of the climb? Another great stage would be with two Alpe d´Huez climbs, as shown in the variant of the PCMDailyDB.

And of course: a start in GermanyWink
 
Aquarius
No more Puy-de-Dôme finish, with the rail road (tramway) they're building, there's no room, if there's only one road left.

Huez twice is unlikely, it's only very small roads that go higher than Alpe d'Huez, and I'm not sure you can ride down, at least on the side of the valley used for climbing. As I've been there, I feel unable to remind any road that'd allow this. Unless they'd split the road with barriers or something, but that'd be ludicrous, wouldn't it ?

I'd say Le Bourg d'Oisans - Galibier would be a funny ITT, it'd imply some flat, then the Lautaret with its average slopes, and eventually the Galibier with tougher slopes and altitude.
 
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