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| Waghlon |
Posted on 14-07-2013 19:12
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Brian Holm can speak?!
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| issoisso |
Posted on 14-07-2013 19:16
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Waghlon wrote:
Brian Holm can speak?!
Found it. It's not the real Brian Holm
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| Roozeken |
Posted on 14-07-2013 19:19
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Question for all the haters??
Do u hate the fact that it's Froome who is winning and not your favorite??
Would u prefere them to get to last 500 meters with a bunch of 20 and start sprinting??
Like this we finally get something to see...
And if he was taking something, toen why wasn't he able to catch Cavendish's wheel?? Or are u implying he did that on purpose because he was sure his "dope" was getting him the ventoux win????? |
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| Ithaca |
Posted on 14-07-2013 19:32
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Roozeken wrote:
Question for all the haters??
Do u hate the fact that it's Froome who is winning and not your favorite??
Would u prefere them to get to last 500 meters with a bunch of 20 and start sprinting??
Like this we finally get something to see...
And if he was taking something, toen why wasn't he able to catch Cavendish's wheel?? Or are u implying he did that on purpose because he was sure his "dope" was getting him the ventoux win?????
The "not catching Cav's wheel" could easily be Froome's lack of technique and/or his awareness of the development at the time. He isn't exactly a brilliant cyclist if you take away his power output.
I didn't really want to join this discussion, but I am going to. Froome is just a bit too obvious, and something is definitely wrong when even Danish TV2 (who are notoriously bad at being critical about anything) begins to suspect something.
Honestly, if Froome and Sky wanted to blow suspicion and doubt out of the water, why don't they release Froome's Watt/Kg figures and other readings?
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| VoetsT |
Posted on 14-07-2013 19:32
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HAHA  that must be the only song that comes out the radio on the Sky-teambus 
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| Aquarius |
Posted on 14-07-2013 19:37
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Ithaca wrote:
Honestly, if Froome and Sky wanted to blow suspicion and doubt out of the water, why don't they release Froome's Watt/Kg figures and other readings?
It smells stinkable.
Most likely they don't release them because his actual performance capability is probably one step ahead what he's shown in the Tour so far.
Well, maybe in the ITT was his real power, which was, according to La Gazetta dello Sport around 450 W (real Watts), produced by a 66 kg guy. 6,9 W/kg during 33 minutes.
That's a performance that ranges along with Ullrich's Arcalis power (albeit Ullrich's was at the end of a mountain stage). |
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| Waghlon |
Posted on 14-07-2013 19:38
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Roozeken wrote:
Question for all the haters??
We prefer the term "cynics", thank you very much.
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| issoisso |
Posted on 14-07-2013 19:40
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Ithaca wrote:
The "not catching Cav's wheel" could easily be Froome's lack of technique and/or his awareness of the development at the time. He isn't exactly a brilliant cyclist if you take away his power output.
Or you know, it could be some moron asking why a climber wasn't able to grab the wheel of the world's best sprinter in a crosswind
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| Stromeon |
Posted on 14-07-2013 19:41
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Roozeken wrote:
Question for all the haters??
Do u hate the fact that it's Froome who is winning and not your favorite??
Would u prefere them to get to last 500 meters with a bunch of 20 and start sprinting??
Like this we finally get something to see...
And if he was taking something, toen why wasn't he able to catch Cavendish's wheel?? Or are u implying he did that on purpose because he was sure his "dope" was getting him the ventoux win?????
I am quite impartial in that I'm definitely not a fanboy of any cyclist/country/team; and I don't really have any favourite riders.
I don't think if you removed Froome you would get a bunch sprint of 20; you don't have to have a rider dominating to thin out the field - look at the Vuelta last year where the top three were separated by around a minute and a half but there wasn't a bunch sprint up any of the climbs there.
As for the incident on Friday, Froome made a half-hearted attempt [by his standards] to get onto Cav's wheel before dropping back and he said that he had full confidence that his team could bring that escape group back. He also didn't realise that Mollema and Ten Dam were in there, so he was counting on the support of Belkin to reel Contador in.
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| Ithaca |
Posted on 14-07-2013 19:43
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Aquarius wrote:
Ithaca wrote:
Honestly, if Froome and Sky wanted to blow suspicion and doubt out of the water, why don't they release Froome's Watt/Kg figures and other readings?
It smells stinkable.
Most likely they don't release them because his actual performance capability is probably one step ahead what he's shown in the Tour so far.
Well, maybe in the ITT was his real power, which was, according to La Gazetta dello Sport around 450 W (real Watts), produced by a 66 kg guy. 6,9 W/kg during 33 minutes.
That's a performance that ranges along with Ullrich's Arcalis power (albeit Ullrich's was at the end of a mountain stage).
So, if I'm understanding this correctly, what you're saying is that they don't release the data because it's highly suspicious? Oh, dear me. I never saw that coming. |
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| Ithaca |
Posted on 14-07-2013 19:46
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issoisso wrote:
Ithaca wrote:
The "not catching Cav's wheel" could easily be Froome's lack of technique and/or his awareness of the development at the time. He isn't exactly a brilliant cyclist if you take away his power output.
Or you know, it could be some moron asking why a climber wasn't able to grab the wheel of the world's best sprinter in a crosswind
Well, yeah. I use too many words and forget important points, it seems 
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| tommyuk |
Posted on 14-07-2013 19:50
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Ive been reading this thread and laughing at some of the idiotic posts some people are making...
I have a question?
Why is no one bashing Quintana? His performances are a little .... out there as well?
The world doesnt like the British!
Rule Britannia! The rest of you with your "eurozone" need to catch up I suppose eh |
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Posted on 14-07-2013 19:50
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Ive been reading this thread and laughing at some of the idiotic posts some people are making...
I have a question?
Why is no one bashing Quintana? His performances are a little .... out there as well?
The world doesnt like the British!
Rule Britannia! The rest of you with your "eurozone" need to catch up I suppose eh
OH and another Thing.. Old Alberto doesnt look to hot without the dope eh?
Edited by tommyuk on 14-07-2013 19:51
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| cosmic |
Posted on 14-07-2013 19:54
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Roozeken wrote:
Question for all the haters??
Do u hate the fact that it's Froome who is winning and not your favorite??
Would u prefere them to get to last 500 meters with a bunch of 20 and start sprinting??
Like this we finally get something to see...
And if he was taking something, toen why wasn't he able to catch Cavendish's wheel?? Or are u implying he did that on purpose because he was sure his "dope" was getting him the ventoux win?????
So you saying doping is fine as long as it gives spectacular performances ? Froome's performances are on par with a souped up Armstrong, so it's painfully obvious it ain't legit. |
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| arthon |
Posted on 14-07-2013 19:54
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If I could only slap people through a standard TCP/IP connection. |
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| tommyuk |
Posted on 14-07-2013 19:57
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Hasnt this been one hell of a TDF though?
Im gripped by it!! |
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| Waghlon |
Posted on 14-07-2013 19:57
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tommyuk wrote:
Rule Britannia! The rest of you with your "eurozone" need to catch up I suppose eh
Cycling was chugging along just nice until you guys and Sky showed up...
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| issoisso |
Posted on 14-07-2013 20:04
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tommyuk wrote:
Ive been reading this thread and laughing at some of the idiotic posts some people are making...
As usual you don't mention anything specific of course. Because that would mean knowing anything about the subject
tommyuk wrote:
I have a question?
I don't know, do you?
tommyuk wrote:
Why is no one bashing Quintana? His performances are a little .... out there as well?
You mean aside from the Quintana bashing that's gone on today?
But yes, pretend that didn't happen, it suits your story much better.
tommyuk wrote:
The world doesnt like the British!
Rule Britannia! The rest of you with your "eurozone" need to catch up I suppose eh
Thank you. I'd grown tired of telling Sky fanboys there was one Armstrong excuse they weren't using. Finally you've set things right 
Also, I'm interested in how the dozen or so british posters around here that have criticized Froome's obvious doping will feel when you tell them that.
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| Mwuhi |
Posted on 14-07-2013 20:08
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How mean can you be issoisso?
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| juszta |
Posted on 14-07-2013 20:09
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Mwuhi wrote:
How mean can you be issoisso?
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