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| cachirro |
Posted on 14-07-2013 15:38
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- one of the fastest climbs ever, like the other dope addict did, armstrong
- his attack was even faster then the moto in front of him, wtf!?!?
guess sky found a new dope that is still undetected, is the eternal war of staying ahead of the ones that control. |
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| mardini13 |
Posted on 14-07-2013 15:54
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Wtf man.. Froome was 1 minute faster up mont ventoux than armstrong was. |
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| Aquarius |
Posted on 14-07-2013 16:02
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Ybodonk wrote:
Btw you never provided me with Froomes watts from the ITT mate ?
My approximations didn't make much sense. At least it didn't show much things we couldn't see on TV (for those who could watch).
La Gazetta apparently has it that Martin did about 470 W (but weighs 75 kg), whereas Froome did 450 (and barely weighs 66 kg  ).
French telly says 57:03 for the whole Ventoux today by Froome, which would be 409 W (for 70 kg ? or is that his actual Watts ?).
Anyway, the threshold of credibility are about 430 W/20 minute, 410 W/40-45 minutes and 390 W/60 minutes.
5 % above.
Grappe said on twitter that the average altitude of the Ventoux means a VO2 max reduced by 5 %.
Meh, Sky are just a a joke anyway. There's not much else to say. |
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| schleckfreak |
Posted on 14-07-2013 16:02
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Froome have been a monster the whole season and know he's just a fucking bigger monster than the rest of the season, thats just fucked up... |
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| VoetsT |
Posted on 14-07-2013 16:03
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Message for Froome: Just quit cycling, you are not good for cycling and its credibility!
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| MartijnVDD |
Posted on 14-07-2013 16:14
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mardini13 wrote:
Wtf man.. Froome was 1 minute faster up mont ventoux than armstrong was.
In that case, Quintana was 30 seconds faster... |
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| nutter453 |
Posted on 14-07-2013 16:28
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The more interesting thing from my point of view is how close the race is behind Froome. The fact that all to others seem to be on a par EG: 2nd->3rd is 11s and 3->4th is 3s, and that Froome is so far ahead makes me suspicious... |
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| wackojackohighcliffe |
Posted on 14-07-2013 17:11
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mardini13 wrote:
Wtf man.. Froome was 1 minute faster up mont ventoux than armstrong was.
Really? Christ...
What were the conditions like (today and Armstrong's ride)? |
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| Kevic |
Posted on 14-07-2013 17:20
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fuck the haters OMFG froome is just to well prepared ... and he doesn't take doping or quintana takes it to because he was in the attack for 10 km and froome for 7 and he is only 28 sec behind froome. The time of big doping is over . live with it
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| Jacdk |
Posted on 14-07-2013 17:22
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wackojackohighcliffe wrote:
mardini13 wrote:
Wtf man.. Froome was 1 minute faster up mont ventoux than armstrong was.
Really? Christ...
What were the conditions like (today and Armstrong's ride)?
It was pretty similar som reports say that Froome had backwind, but didn´t say what Armstrong had. |
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| wackojackohighcliffe |
Posted on 14-07-2013 17:24
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Kevic wrote:
fuck the haters OMFG froome is just to well prepared ... and he doesn't take doping or quintana takes it to because he was in the attack for 10 km and froome for 7 and he is only 28 sec behind froome. The time of big doping is over . live with it
Constructive first post. Welcome to the board. |
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| sutty68 |
Posted on 14-07-2013 17:25
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Kevic wrote:
fuck the haters OMFG froome is just to well prepared ... and he doesn't take doping or quintana takes it to because he was in the attack for 10 km and froome for 7 and he is only 28 sec behind froome. The time of big doping is over . live with it
Like it |
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| Stromeon |
Posted on 14-07-2013 17:26
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Kevic wrote:
fuck the haters OMFG froome is just to well prepared ... and he doesn't take doping or quintana takes it to because he was in the attack for 10 km and froome for 7 and he is only 28 sec behind froome. The time of big doping is over . live with it
Welcome to the forum
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| cosmic |
Posted on 14-07-2013 17:39
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Kevic wrote:
fuck the haters OMFG froome is just to well prepared ... and he doesn't take doping or quintana takes it to because he was in the attack for 10 km and froome for 7 and he is only 28 sec behind froome. The time of big doping is over . live with it
Easy on the medication dude. |
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| Rzrassman |
Posted on 14-07-2013 17:49
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Hahaha!!! and ppl thought is wan't going to be obvious.Just think about it.Sky asked Porte to drop out of contention,cause they just didn't want to make it a repeat of last year.Just to make it a liitle more exciting i guess.
Another 1-2 and i m sure the audience would have reduced significantly.Atleast ppl will see a good fight for the podium places.
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| dienblad |
Posted on 14-07-2013 17:50
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Kevic wrote:
fuck the haters OMFG froome is just to well prepared ... and he doesn't take doping or quintana takes it to because he was in the attack for 10 km and froome for 7 and he is only 28 sec behind froome. The time of big doping is over . live with it
He sure is too well prepared!!!
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| ruben |
Posted on 14-07-2013 17:58
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Mountain stages no longer get won by minutes, but by seconds. You can see cycling is clean because nobody can do long attacks in mountain stages anymore.
/Brailsford a year ago
yeah. So. Erm. What now mr Brailsford? |
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| marble |
Posted on 14-07-2013 18:06
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Aquarius wrote:
French telly says 57:03 for the whole Ventoux today by Froome, which would be 409 W (for 70 kg ? or is that his actual Watts ?).
Anyway, the threshold of credibility are about 430 W/20 minute, 410 W/40-45 minutes and 390 W/60 minutes.
5 % above.
2004 Dauphine there was a Mont Ventoux ITT, Armstrong rode the entire Mont Ventoux there in 57:49. You can say it was the Dauphine and all that stuff to explain why it's slower, but still. Today they had a tough 220km at fast pace before the climb even. Would like to see the last 15.65km time of Froome today so I could properly compare it to the TdF times over the years though (can't find a list of the full climb times, help me  ).
Mayo had a full time of 55:51 when he won that ITT in the Dauphine, that was a time of 45:47 over the last 15.65km. Pantani's record in the TdF is 46:00. Armstrong rode the last 15.65km in 48:33 in 2002 and 49:00 in 2009.
Edited by marble on 14-07-2013 18:07
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| cosmic |
Posted on 14-07-2013 18:28
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marble wrote:
Aquarius wrote:
French telly says 57:03 for the whole Ventoux today by Froome, which would be 409 W (for 70 kg ? or is that his actual Watts ?).
Anyway, the threshold of credibility are about 430 W/20 minute, 410 W/40-45 minutes and 390 W/60 minutes.
5 % above.
2004 Dauphine there was a Mont Ventoux ITT, Armstrong rode the entire Mont Ventoux there in 57:49. You can say it was the Dauphine and all that stuff to explain why it's slower, but still. Today they had a tough 220km at fast pace before the climb even. Would like to see the last 15.65km time of Froome today so I could properly compare it to the TdF times over the years though (can't find a list of the full climb times, help me ).
Mayo had a full time of 55:51 when he won that ITT in the Dauphine, that was a time of 45:47 over the last 15.65km. Pantani's record in the TdF is 46:00. Armstrong rode the last 15.65km in 48:33 in 2002 and 49:00 in 2009.
If I look at my recording of the stage:
2:10:20: Gfx changes from 15.7 to 15.6 km (Chavanel leading). Froome 1:30 behind at the time.
3:00:38: Froome crosses the finish line
Chavanel's gap is decreasing at that point, and I have no idea exactly when the graphics swaps from 15.7 to 15.6. I'd say he's probably somewhere around 48:30-49:15 area.
Edited by cosmic on 14-07-2013 18:36
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| florian96 |
Posted on 14-07-2013 18:28
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marble wrote:
Aquarius wrote:
French telly says 57:03 for the whole Ventoux today by Froome, which would be 409 W (for 70 kg ? or is that his actual Watts ?).
Anyway, the threshold of credibility are about 430 W/20 minute, 410 W/40-45 minutes and 390 W/60 minutes.
5 % above.
2004 Dauphine there was a Mont Ventoux ITT, Armstrong rode the entire Mont Ventoux there in 57:49. You can say it was the Dauphine and all that stuff to explain why it's slower, but still. Today they had a tough 220km at fast pace before the climb even. Would like to see the last 15.65km time of Froome today so I could properly compare it to the TdF times over the years though (can't find a list of the full climb times, help me ).
Mayo had a full time of 55:51 when he won that ITT in the Dauphine, that was a time of 45:47 over the last 15.65km. Pantani's record in the TdF is 46:00. Armstrong rode the last 15.65km in 48:33 in 2002 and 49:00 in 2009.
I stopped the time when Chavanel had been around the St. Esteve corner 15.65 km to go minus 1:20 he was in front of the peloton and got a time of 48:25. And as I have seen on TV they had crosswind on the last 2-3 km's. |
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