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| felix_29 |
Posted on 13-01-2013 14:35
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French is way easier than Latin. I know a lot pf people who can speak some French having it for one year, but the only person i know who can actually speak Latin is my former teacher.
Not sure how learning German is, though. 
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| pcm2009fan |
Posted on 13-01-2013 14:40
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Maybe the language is easier, but when I did Latin, there was no spoken or listening parts to it, which made it considerably easier overall I found. Depends on the course structure. |
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| TheManxMissile |
Posted on 13-01-2013 15:03
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Latin is much easier than French, because it is the base language for French.
Same with Italian, Spanish, Romanian and few others.
There are virtually zero exceptions to any rules.
Each verb etc has clear set tables that every word fits into.
I've never done a more simple and structured language in my life.
And as a result i can do a lot more French, Italian and Spanish than i would otherwise.
German is a bit more complex, but is still one of the more structured and simple languages to learn. And it forms some base for Dutch, Danish, English and Swedish.
Hard languages are any that doesnt follow the Latin Alphabet, ie. Russian, Greek, Arabic, Japanese, Chinese Mandarin and Cantonese.
English also comes under harder as there are so many exceptions to the simple rules its ridiculous.
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| Miguel98 |
Posted on 13-01-2013 15:06
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Manx, you say English is hard, and I take an A at English and a C at Portuguese. That says it all. |
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| baseballlover312 |
Posted on 13-01-2013 15:09
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English is one of the most ireegular languages out there. Has roots in Latin and Greek and no rule works every time.
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| miggi133 |
Posted on 13-01-2013 15:12
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Miguel98 wrote:
Manx, you say English is hard, and I take an A at English and a C at Portuguese. That says it all.
Thats cause you lear English as a foreigner...
When I lived back in Germany I got A's in English and C's in german as well, an once I came to Ireland to do my Leaving cert, my grades dropped from A1's to B3's (B-) because I had to adjust learning english as a native...
Learning English as a native is as hard as learning portugese as a native, maybe even harder, due to the whole shakespeareran (I know I spelt that one wrong... ) plays etc, as well as world reknown poetry, are all published in old english and some dumbass who started drawing up the curricululm for school english thought it may be a valuable conversation statrter between scientists to talk about the figure of Hamlet!
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| Miguel98 |
Posted on 13-01-2013 15:16
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Yeah, Portuguese same shit there. A lot of grammar, wich is the worst thing evar. |
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| felix_29 |
Posted on 13-01-2013 15:23
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TheManxMissile wrote:
Latin is much easier than French, because it is the base language for French.
Same with Italian, Spanish, Romanian and few others.
There are virtually zero exceptions to any rules.
Each verb etc has clear set tables that every word fits into.
I've never done a more simple and structured language in my life.
And as a result i can do a lot more French, Italian and Spanish than i would otherwise.
German is a bit more complex, but is still one of the more structured and simple languages to learn. And it forms some base for Dutch, Danish, English and Swedish.
Hard languages are any that doesnt follow the Latin Alphabet, ie. Russian, Greek, Arabic, Japanese, Chinese Mandarin and Cantonese.
English also comes under harder as there are so many exceptions to the simple rules its ridiculous.
English harder than Latin. 
In Germany, some schools offered Latin from grade 5 and English from grade 6. Guess which language the pupils could speak more fluently at the end of grade 6?
Also, i don't know why you rate Greek as "hard" and Latin as "easy". Learning 24 letters can't make such a big difference...
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| fcancellara |
Posted on 13-01-2013 15:24
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Latin at my school is basically only grammar and vocabulary, not speaking or hearing. We do translate Latin texts though.
Latin is indeed very structured, if you just study well enough you will understand it easily.
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| miggi133 |
Posted on 13-01-2013 15:25
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felix_29 wrote:
In Germany, some schools offered Latin from grade 5 and English from grade 6. Guess which language the pupils could speak more fluently at the end of grade 6?
Turkish!
EDIT: Cance: Its the same in germany, thats why I thhink tha felix argument doesnt hold up (the onre being able to speak better English than latin)
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| FroomeDog99 |
Posted on 13-01-2013 15:26
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miggi133 wrote:
felix_29 wrote:
In Germany, some schools offered Latin from grade 5 and English from grade 6. Guess which language the pupils could speak more fluently at the end of grade 6?
Turkish!
Eyy, I can speak turkish |
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| Rin |
Posted on 13-01-2013 15:45
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People who have to learn German or destroying the dream "easy" German language
We have 3 words for "the"
The cat - die Katze
The man - der Mann
The book - das Buch
How is that easy 
And it's still the most angry sounding language in the world I mean even I love you (in German of course) sounds like a war declaration. No wonder why the divorce rate is so high^^
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| fcancellara |
Posted on 13-01-2013 15:49
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Rin wrote:
People who have to learn German or destroying the dream "easy" German language
We have 3 words for "the"
The cat - die Katze
The man - der Mann
The book - das Buch
How is that easy
And it's still the most angry sounding language in the world I mean even I love you (in German of course) sounds like a war declaration. No wonder why the divorce rate is so high^^
In Dutch we have 'de' for female and male, and 'het' for neutral.
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| TheManxMissile |
Posted on 13-01-2013 15:51
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But thats masculine feminine and neuter. Its a basic grammatical thing that makes it easier to learn as a foreigner.
It links into other grammatical things and sets up a lot of the languages rules, which become easy to follow.
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| baseballlover312 |
Posted on 13-01-2013 15:52
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We have the, the, and the.
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| Jesleyh |
Posted on 13-01-2013 15:55
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Rin wrote:
People who have to learn German or destroying the dream "easy" German language
We have 3 words for "the"
The cat - die Katze
The man - der Mann
The book - das Buch
How is that easy
And it's still the most angry sounding language in the world I mean even I love you (in German of course) sounds like a war declaration. No wonder why the divorce rate is so high^^
Not just that, you have about 6 different ones, (dem, den, der, das, die, des, might forgot one)
Not to mention the adjectives(is it called that way?)
It's hard to learn them, but if you did learn them and understand them, I don't think German is hard. I've got through all the grammar in 3 years, and know most of the (easier) words I guess... Just using words like 'the' in a sentence takes a bit long...
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| roturn |
Posted on 13-01-2013 16:09
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felix_29 wrote:
In Germany, some schools offered Latin from grade 5 and English from grade 6. Guess which language the pupils could speak more fluently at the end of grade 6?
I had Latin from grade 5 and English from grade 7.
But keep in mind that Latin is a dead language and is not supposed to be spoken fluently. It`s just for translations and even most teachers can`t speak it fluent.
One of my teachers, who was actually a genius in Latin said, that he would need to prepare several days for one page of Latin speach from his mind. |
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| cactus-jack |
Posted on 13-01-2013 16:12
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Why in Gods name do you waste time learing Latin? With all do respect, unless you're studying to be a linguist that must be the most useless skill to have?
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| Aquarius |
Posted on 13-01-2013 16:25
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Worst thing about German was learning the plurals.
It's all a very structured language, but come the plurals... no rules, just have to learn every one of them.
I guess I've forgotten 90% of them by now.
Weird thing with German, especially when you've learnt English first (after French of course), is the neutral genre. As baseball said, in English it's all "the", although the difficulty is to know whether to use it or not, whereas in French we'd use it all the time. School (in general) or the school (the building/place I went to) will be "the school in French".
It gets worst with German. Words get a gender. And they might be one gender in French, but might be any other gender in German.
French has many grammatical exceptions, as mentioned earlier, but that mostly count for written forms, as it's often about non-spoken letters (like feminine words ending in -é or -ée, or plurals of words ending in -ou which become either -ous either -oux, or double l or double t in verbs). |
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| TheManxMissile |
Posted on 13-01-2013 16:31
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It gets worst with German. Words get a gender. And they might be one gender in French, but might be any other gender in German.
Thats because they dont have the same bases.
French is based more on Latin.
German is more of its own base.
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