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Giro d'Italia 2012 - Week 3
sam1196
I think the one that's laughing silentely is Kreuz. as long as they don't really trash him he TT could wrap it all up.
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Henao will win next year ;D His talent is to be admired.
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sam1196 wrote:
I think the one that's laughing silentely is Kreuz. as long as they don't really trash him he TT could wrap it all up.

Doubt that. His TT hasn't been good this year, while his climbing has improved.

I can see him podiuming, max.
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Alakagom wrote:
kumazan wrote:
Alakagom wrote:
CountArach wrote:
issoisso wrote:
CountArach wrote:
So now I'm just waiting for Purito's innevitable bad day... And I don't just mean the TT, where he will lose a couple of minutes minimum.


He says this is the first time in his life he hasn't peaked too early for a GT. Let's see if that has an impact.

Oh for sure. I've never seen him like this in the really long climbs.


He improved his TT very much so too this year He was 59th in Tirreno TT which was a great feat for him and then 6th in Pais Vasco TT.


Being 59th in a short ITT isn't anything special for him. And the PV ITT was VERY (emphasis on very) hilly. He might have improved, but not so much. That's irrelevant anyway, you could TT backwards and still win this Giro.


Indeed, if he keeps going like that TT will have no importance whatsoever. He's definitely improved though, he was 44th in Giro prologue ( 9km) as well as well rode very strong TTT with Katusha being 2nd Wink Thing is he won't loose as much in that last TT as CountArach states.

TTs on the final day are a different thing altogether though. He has a history of blowing up at some point during GTs. Now, if he really is in better form than he has ever been in, then it is impossible to say. Time will tell.
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sam1196
BTW: how's Henao's TT?
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kumazan
sam1196 wrote:
BTW: how's Henao's TT?


Bad, but it's not really relevant.
 
Alakagom
CountArach wrote:
Alakagom wrote:
kumazan wrote:
Alakagom wrote:
CountArach wrote:
issoisso wrote:
CountArach wrote:
So now I'm just waiting for Purito's innevitable bad day... And I don't just mean the TT, where he will lose a couple of minutes minimum.


He says this is the first time in his life he hasn't peaked too early for a GT. Let's see if that has an impact.

Oh for sure. I've never seen him like this in the really long climbs.


He improved his TT very much so too this year He was 59th in Tirreno TT which was a great feat for him and then 6th in Pais Vasco TT.


Being 59th in a short ITT isn't anything special for him. And the PV ITT was VERY (emphasis on very) hilly. He might have improved, but not so much. That's irrelevant anyway, you could TT backwards and still win this Giro.


Indeed, if he keeps going like that TT will have no importance whatsoever. He's definitely improved though, he was 44th in Giro prologue ( 9km) as well as well rode very strong TTT with Katusha being 2nd Wink Thing is he won't loose as much in that last TT as CountArach states.

TTs on the final day are a different thing altogether though. He has a history of blowing up at some point during GTs. Now, if he really is in better form than he has ever been in, then it is impossible to say. Time will tell.


Well if he blows up somewhere during the 3rd week, he won't win and won't go full on TT. If he's 1st till the last day then he will do a good TT and I am cofident he will loose very little or none to others GC riders. Time will tell as you rightly said.
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sam1196
kumazan wrote:
sam1196 wrote:
BTW: how's Henao's TT?


Bad, but it's not really relevant.


Why not? Alpe di Pampeago is a climb like today's one but a bit steeper and longer.

Henao could do top-5 since Uran is now completely out of the race.
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Rujano lost 4'15. Bye-bye overall for him, no doubt.
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kumazan
sam1196 wrote:
kumazan wrote:
sam1196 wrote:
BTW: how's Henao's TT?


Bad, but it's not really relevant.


Why not? Alpe di Pampeago is a climb like today's one but a bit steeper and longer.

Henao could do top-5 since Uran is now completely out of the race.


Don't really get what Pampago's got to do with Henao's TT skills?

It's not relevant because the TT won't decide anything, unless the favourites keep racing like pussies and attacking with 1km to go. And even in that case, differences could be too big by then anyway.
 
samdiatmh
What an effort by Rabbotini
would've put good money on Rodriguez leaving him for dead, but he stuck wiht him and then nabbed him at the final corner

Henao staying with the Basso/Scarponi group is immense, future GT winner for sure

Wednesday will be crucial for GC, before the battle up the Stelvio (i personally think Joaquim will lose time up the Stelvio, and then the final TT won't really matter)
 
sam1196
kumazan wrote:
sam1196 wrote:
kumazan wrote:
sam1196 wrote:
BTW: how's Henao's TT?


Bad, but it's not really relevant.


Why not? Alpe di Pampeago is a climb like today's one but a bit steeper and longer.

Henao could do top-5 since Uran is now completely out of the race.


Don't really get what Pampago's got to do with Henao's TT skills?

It's not relevant because the TT won't decide anything, unless the favourites keep racing like pussies and attacking with 1km to go. And even in that case, differences could be too big by then anyway.


I mean if he keeps doing well in the mountains, and he holds on in the TT he could have a good final GC.
I think the TT will decide some places in top-10 but not the pink jersey.
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2RODRIGUEZ OLIVER JoaquinESPKAT5:15:300:00
3LOSADA ALGUACIL AlbertoESPKAT5:15:530:23
4HENAO MONTOYA Sergio LuisCOLSKY5:15:550:25
5SCARPONI MicheleITALAM5:15:550:25
6BASSO IvanITALIQ5:15:550:25
7PIRAZZI StefanoITACOG5:15:590:29
8KREUZIGER RomanCZEAST5:15:590:29
9GADRET JohnFRAALM5:15:590:29
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Man, Henao was great. Hope he'll continue like that. Rabottini is on another level though after that effort, what a win for him.
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kumazan
sam1196 wrote:
I mean if he keeps doing well in the mountains, and he holds on in the TT he could have a good final GC.
I think the TT will decide some places in top-10 but not the pink jersey.


Sure. He's doing well so far, and while some of the next stages are much harder and he could crack, so far he looks a shoo-in for a top 10 and with a fair chance of a top 5.
 
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ruben
Boring uninspiring mountain stage. Favorites attacked very late and obviously Rodriguez profits most from this type of scenario.

Rujana and Pozzovivo as expected suffering from cold and rain, especially Rujano. The weather killed his chances once more.
 
Vien
Bulgac finishing in front of Rujano, wtf? :lol:

Cataldo is still doing well, top 10 contender perhaps?
 
ruben
Rujano in cold+rain is the same as Hagen in 270km hard classics. It just doesn't go for some reason
 
fickman
ruben wrote:
Boring uninspiring mountain stage. Favorites attacked very late and obviously Rodriguez profits most from this type of scenario.

Rujana and Pozzovivo as expected suffering from cold and rain, especially Rujano. The weather killed his chances once more.


I think those 2 are just in bad shape. Pozzo won the Trentino with a very cold weather and Rujano looses every Mountain Stage Time. Henao doesnt like cold weather either and was having a good day today. Dont think the weather is an excuse. I wasnt expecting those two to lose so much time either but thats the way it is.

By the way great race from Henao, trying to have a top 10 place in the GC and working for Cav in the Flat Stages must be really hard.
Edited by fickman on 20-05-2012 18:16
 
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That was a very nice gesture from J-Rod. Obviously he had to power full throttle to the end, but when he noticed that Rabottini was still with him, he let him have it. True gentleman sport!
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