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Avin Wargunnson
Paul23 wrote:
Tony said he Split the group, whilst he wasn't even pushing(on the cobbles, btw)


Crash split the group, Tony just kept the gap after the crash on roughly same level, which is impressive as it was against duo of Cancellara and Sagan, who were setting the tempo to come back, but i guess those two were not giving it 100%, unlike Tony. Flat beast? YES. Cobble beast? Nope Wink
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AiZaK
I think Tony Martin with 74 in cobbles is enough
 
AiZaK
I think Moreno Moser deserves +1 point more in Hills. Currently he is in the DB 75, I think 76 is better for him
 
aidanvn13
Avin Wargunnson wrote:
Paul23 wrote:
Tony said he Split the group, whilst he wasn't even pushing(on the cobbles, btw)


Crash split the group, Tony just kept the gap after the crash on roughly same level, which is impressive as it was against duo of Cancellara and Sagan, who were setting the tempo to come back, but i guess those two were not giving it 100%, unlike Tony. Flat beast? YES. Cobble beast? Nope Wink


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Avin Wargunnson
I would lower Aidan Van Niekerk (Team Telkom) -10 in all stats. Pfft
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Tafiolmo
Anderis: Strangely enough after playing a couple of races, I was thinking that some of the CCC riders weren't as high as they should be so will be updating a couple of those including Owsian .

Van Baarle has been decided after the cobble classics, but I'll take another look at him, as along with other unmentioned riders like Claeys and Naesen these were some of the big surprise riders. Van Baarle at the moment will be the Cannondale leader for these races now that Langeveld seems to be going down and down.

Aizak: Moser is better than a lot of 75 hill riders anyway due to a good flat and res stat but I'm guessing you think he should be higher after GP Indurain will check the highlights of that race.
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TimoCycling
I don't know if you updated it already, but all Roompot riders have 67 cobble or lower. I think that is too low. Some of them should be atleast 70.

Like Asselman, 22 in dwars door vlaanderen and 1st in energiewacht Drenthe. Berden de Vries is doing really well too. Also in Brabantse Pijl he rode well. He also finished 27th in Gent Wevelgem.

Also Andre Looij 5th in Handzame, that is also a partly cobbled race.

I am not saying they deserve crazy stats, but a lot of guys deserve more than 66 or 65 cobbling.
 
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Avin Wargunnson wrote:
I would lower Aidan Van Niekerk (Team Telkom) -10 in all stats. Pfft


55 in everything, but 85 in fighter, right? Pfft
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Tafiolmo
TimoCycling wrote:
I don't know if you updated it already, but all Roompot riders have 67 cobble or lower. I think that is too low. Some of them should be atleast 70.

Like Asselman, 22 in dwars door vlaanderen and 1st in energiewacht Drenthe. Berden de Vries is doing really well too. Also in Brabantse Pijl he rode well. He also finished 27th in Gent Wevelgem.

Also Andre Looij 5th in Handzame, that is also a partly cobbled race.

I am not saying they deserve crazy stats, but a lot of guys deserve more than 66 or 65 cobbling.


Some of the Roompot guys have had stat updates for cobbles already, I always try and update Begian and Dutch teams a bit more than others because a lot of their riders can do cobbles quite well, but will certainly look at Roompot again. Especially since the cobble seaon is over and these cobble stats have to do til next year now.
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TimoCycling
Tafiolmo wrote:
TimoCycling wrote:
I don't know if you updated it already, but all Roompot riders have 67 cobble or lower. I think that is too low. Some of them should be atleast 70.

Like Asselman, 22 in dwars door vlaanderen and 1st in energiewacht Drenthe. Berden de Vries is doing really well too. Also in Brabantse Pijl he rode well. He also finished 27th in Gent Wevelgem.

Also Andre Looij 5th in Handzame, that is also a partly cobbled race.

I am not saying they deserve crazy stats, but a lot of guys deserve more than 66 or 65 cobbling.


Some of the Roompot guys have had stat updates for cobbles already, I always try and update Begian and Dutch teams a bit more than others because a lot of their riders can do cobbles quite well, but will certainly look at Roompot again. Especially since the cobble seaon is over and these cobble stats have to do til next year now.


Thank you! When you are done could you post them here, I am interested in them Smile.
 
Tafiolmo
TimoCycling wrote:
Tafiolmo wrote:
TimoCycling wrote:
I don't know if you updated it already, but all Roompot riders have 67 cobble or lower. I think that is too low. Some of them should be atleast 70.

Like Asselman, 22 in dwars door vlaanderen and 1st in energiewacht Drenthe. Berden de Vries is doing really well too. Also in Brabantse Pijl he rode well. He also finished 27th in Gent Wevelgem.

Also Andre Looij 5th in Handzame, that is also a partly cobbled race.

I am not saying they deserve crazy stats, but a lot of guys deserve more than 66 or 65 cobbling.


Some of the Roompot guys have had stat updates for cobbles already, I always try and update Begian and Dutch teams a bit more than others because a lot of their riders can do cobbles quite well, but will certainly look at Roompot again. Especially since the cobble seaon is over and these cobble stats have to do til next year now.


Thank you! When you are done could you post them here, I am interested in them Smile.


Of the riders you mentioned (some I already had improved anyway for the new db):

Asselman 70 flat 68 cob
De Vries 71 flat 69 cob
Looij 70 flat 68 cob

all have adequate STA and RES so they should be able to finish longer classics. They can of course be tweaked even more to give bigger differences between them.
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Jorge14
Tafiolmo im updating the portuguese teams and some continental that are very bad, if you want some help send me an Private Message.

For example in Portuguese teams are guys very bad and that could be changed and in the continental for example Norda you have guys like Raffaele Radice that never finished a race in real life and in game hve stats like 65Mo and pretty decent backups, if you want help i could help in that teams Smile
 
Tafiolmo
Jorge14 wrote:
Tafiolmo im updating the portuguese teams and some continental that are very bad, if you want some help send me an Private Message.

For example in Portuguese teams are guys very bad and that could be changed and in the continental for example Norda you have guys like Raffaele Radice that never finished a race in real life and in game hve stats like 65Mo and pretty decent backups, if you want help i could help in that teams Smile


I don't do these teams but will pass this message to Croatia who does the CT level stuff.

Thanks
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emre99
Reichenbach to 77 MO from 76 please...

He had the same calender with Thibaut this season, and every mountain stage, he was with him for a long time, and getting 10 to 15th places... He finishes the mountain stages like riders like Rui Costa, Kelderman, Landa in very hard mountains stages eventhough he is just a team-mate of Pinot.

He also finished 4th overall at tirreno but that doesnt had any 'big' mountain stages.
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Jorge14
Tafiolmo wrote:
Jorge14 wrote:
Tafiolmo im updating the portuguese teams and some continental that are very bad, if you want some help send me an Private Message.

For example in Portuguese teams are guys very bad and that could be changed and in the continental for example Norda you have guys like Raffaele Radice that never finished a race in real life and in game hve stats like 65Mo and pretty decent backups, if you want help i could help in that teams Smile


I don't do these teams but will pass this message to Croatia who does the CT level stuff.

Thanks

If you want help i could do some work with Croatia on the CT level
 
Tafiolmo
emre99 wrote:
Reichenbach to 77 MO from 76 please...

He had the same calender with Thibaut this season, and every mountain stage, he was with him for a long time, and getting 10 to 15th places... He finishes the mountain stages like riders like Rui Costa, Kelderman, Landa in very hard mountains stages eventhough he is just a team-mate of Pinot.

He also finished 4th overall at tirreno but that doesnt had any 'big' mountain stages.


I think it's better to wait until we see how well he does at Romandie which is not too far away and will probably be included for the next update, I know his TT has already been updated. In fact most of FDJ as a team has been improved in TT.
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emre99
Tafiolmo wrote:
emre99 wrote:
Reichenbach to 77 MO from 76 please...

He had the same calender with Thibaut this season, and every mountain stage, he was with him for a long time, and getting 10 to 15th places... He finishes the mountain stages like riders like Rui Costa, Kelderman, Landa in very hard mountains stages eventhough he is just a team-mate of Pinot.

He also finished 4th overall at tirreno but that doesnt had any 'big' mountain stages.


I think it's better to wait until we see how well he does at Romandie which is not too far away and will probably be included for the next update, I know his TT has already been updated. In fact most of FDJ as a team has been improved in TT.


Can I learn the date of the last update, and thanks for asnwering.
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That will be after Liege Bastogne Liege as we said.
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matt17br wrote:
That will be after Liege Bastogne Liege as we said.


I meant the update before..
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emre99 wrote:
matt17br wrote:
That will be after Liege Bastogne Liege as we said.


I meant the update before..

We won't release any updates before LBL if that's what you mean Wink
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