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Posted on 29-06-2014 23:32
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I dont know what match you guys were watching (admir) but Greece really deserve to go through, they played better throughout the match and have created more chances (even before CR scored) I really hope they can get what they deserve and then beat the ass out of the Dutchies!
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Posted on 29-06-2014 23:34
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Greece nor Costa Rica do even stand a chance against Holland normally. They are the weakest teams left in this WC. Well except Algeria maybe |
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Posted on 29-06-2014 23:41
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Algeria is far stronger when they are willing to play attacking football, which they only showed in the first half against South Korea.
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Posted on 29-06-2014 23:42
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Ohh, penalties. Exciting.
Greek coach is an idiot btw
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admirschleck |
Posted on 29-06-2014 23:42
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@Lachi - Yeah, it was a post after mine, so I thought it maybe is connected to what I wrote. Anyways, I agree.
@Jacdk - I am not Greek supporter (which is kinda noticable as I wrote "Go Costa Rica" for like 3 times tonight, you just have to read...) nor Holland hater (tho I am close to being one).
God, why am I even trying to get in a proper discussion with you...What are you on today? Firstly, conditions were same for both Mexico & Netherlands and as I said today - both teams are adapted to these conditions, so bringing these weather arguments is hilarious. Secondly, Netherlands wouldn't be most scoring team without that match against Spain, but you can't take that from them nor blame them for shitty Spain. However, that doesn't make Spain a good team in this WC, nor Dutchie's football attarctive (it keeps bringing results, I agree, but you started all of this shit with game-play style).
@Ryan - I am trying to "defend" Greece (tho I support Costa Rica), and you're suddenly attacking me. What's happening, Ryan?
@GENERAL - GO COSTA RICAAAAAAAAAAAAAA (for 4th time now )
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ryant |
Posted on 29-06-2014 23:47
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admirschleck wrote
@Ryan - I am trying to "defend" Greece (tho I support Costa Rica), and you're suddenly attacking me. What's happening, Ryan?
sorry, mistook you for someone who said Greece play destructive football, I mean I haven't seen any explosions
Anyway why are you supporting Costa Rica!
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Jacdk |
Posted on 29-06-2014 23:51
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ryant wrote:
admirschleck wrote
@Ryan - I am trying to "defend" Greece (tho I support Costa Rica), and you're suddenly attacking me. What's happening, Ryan?
sorry, mistook you for someone who said Greece play destructive football, I mean I haven't seen any explosions
Anyway why are you supporting Costa Rica!
Because anyone who love football and want the most deserving team to go on roots for Costa Rica, they are huge underdogs and noone in their right mind would have placed them as nr.1 in their group against 3 former world cup winners. |
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Posted on 29-06-2014 23:54
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Gekas misses. GO COSTA RICA |
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admirschleck |
Posted on 29-06-2014 23:55
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YES, YES, YES, YES, YEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEES!
That's how you shoot penalties, Chile.
Edited by admirschleck on 29-06-2014 23:56
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Posted on 29-06-2014 23:57
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Costa Rica does it and throws Greece back to Tartarus
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Posted on 29-06-2014 23:58
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5 Good penalties from Costa Rica |
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Posted on 29-06-2014 23:58
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Woohooo!!! |
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ryant |
Posted on 30-06-2014 00:00
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Well played in the end (you could argue they didn't deserve it )
Costa Rica held their nerve and got through in pens, not bad for them but they were aided by the Greek keeper who didnt look like he was going to get near a single penalty
GO GREECE! (future Euro 2016 winners, I know it!)
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Lachi |
Posted on 30-06-2014 00:22
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Jacdk wrote:
Lachi wrote:
On a tournament, you play to win, not to shine.
Nobody forces you to watch these matches.
Spoken as a true anti-football fan.
Also there is such a thing as Fair play
I am only commenting, not approving the action I see on the pitch.
And I have not yet seen any footballer playing fair on this WC, so I am not sure what you wanted to say with that.
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Posted on 30-06-2014 00:46
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admirschleck wrote:
God, why am I even trying to get in a proper discussion with you...What are you on today? Firstly, conditions were same for both Mexico & Netherlands and as I said today - both teams are adapted to these conditions, so bringing these weather arguments is hilarious. Secondly, Netherlands wouldn't be most scoring team without that match against Spain, but you can't take that from them nor blame them for shitty Spain. However, that doesn't make Spain a good team in this WC, nor Dutchie's football attarctive (it keeps bringing results, I agree, but you started all of this shit with game-play style).
Since we're at it, best cancel out Netherlands against Chile too, because they scored two late goals and they were such a defensive side. And cancel Australia too when we're at it, since Australia would have lost anyway and Netherlands were supposed to win 5-0... you know. It's somehow funny how you cancel out stuff out, from contact for a foul to whole matches, to suit your argumentation.
Also, Mexicans themselves have said that they intended to "kill the bodies" of the dutch in the heat. It's completley legit that they aim to play to their strengths, and they would be stupid if they didn't do it.
Good one by Costa Rica. Fell asleep though.
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Posted on 30-06-2014 01:00
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No need to be sarcastic, you only bolded first part of my sentence and if you read the rest of it, you'll see its full meaning. Even though their group was strong on paper, it was easy job for Netherlands. I never said they're shit, actually opposite - they showed they're a great team, just that I don't like the football they're playing (defensive, "anti-football" (as how Jacdk would like to call it) and nothing besides RvP & Robben in attack).
Go Algeria & Nigeria!
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Posted on 30-06-2014 01:28
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admirschleck wrote:
No need to be sarcastic, you only bolded first part of my sentence and if you read the rest of it, you'll see its full meaning. Even though their group was strong on paper, it was easy job for Netherlands. I never said they're shit, actually opposite - they showed they're a great team, just that I don't like the football they're playing (defensive, "anti-football" (as how Jacdk would like to call it) and nothing besides RvP & Robben in attack).
Maybe you should be a bit sarcastic too, because how can you say with a straigth face, that this Group of Death - with World Champion Spain and one of people's favourite Chile in it - was an easy job for Netherlands?! You are talking about Spain & Chile like they are some goons in a qualifying stage. There's a reason why they are strong on paper because they are all fantastic football-players, and Netherlands were on the brink of losing both matches but turned it around both times. Really now, I'm at a loss for words and I'm baffled and I quote you again and then you surely must realize that your statement is hogwash.
admirschleck wrote:
Even though their group was strong on paper, it was easy job for Netherlands.
by the way, Robben & Van Persie are the strikers, of course they are the main source of attacks. Once again, you form reality to fit your narrative and argumentation. It's tiresome.
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admirschleck |
Posted on 30-06-2014 01:36
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See, every team from that group is now out of WC (except Oranges), so what I said is actually true - it was only strong group on paper. Spain was literally shit this time and I don't understand how can you count them as a serious team and opponent. I mean, they have a reputation of WC and EC winner, but if you actually watched their games this year (including frendlies), you'd realise why I keep saying that they're shit.
Of course Robben & Van Persie are attackers and are supposed to score goals, but what I wanted to say is that they two literally made most of chances by themselves, with someone else (mostly Snejider) just passing the ball and appearing from time to time. Constantly saying how bad my arguments are without actually making a good arguments yourself isn't the way to go. At the end, you won't make me like them as a team that way, so chill out. Last time I checked, I am allowed not to like someone play-style and to have my own opinion.
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Posted on 30-06-2014 02:20
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admirschleck wrote:
See, every team from that group is now out of WC (except Oranges), so what I said is actually true - it was only strong group on paper. Spain was literally shit this time and I don't understand how can you count them as a serious team and opponent. I mean, they have a reputation of WC and EC winner, but if you actually watched their games this year (including frendlies), you'd realise why I keep saying that they're shit.
"See, every team from that group is now out of WC (except Oranges), so what I said is actually true - it was only strong group on paper." ????
Sorry but you really make it sound like more than two teams advanced to knockout-stage. It were two teams and Chile missed out in the penalty-shootout in Brazil. I fail to see how this proves that the point of the Group being an easy job for Netherlands and "only strong on paper"?
Besides that, the first half of the match Spain was the superior side against Netherlands, and if Silva would have scored, the match probably (who know for sure?) would have been over. But Netherlands made a great comeback, turned the match around and put the first nail into Spain, with Chile finishing it off. I don't know what your opinion on Spain is in general but posts in this thread have shown that you have been as surprised as anyone of us by this NEL-ESP.
Spoiler Both of your posts:
admirschleck wrote:
I'd really like to see all of these guys that keeps on blaming ref for the first penalty (the two in Mexico's match & one in Brazil's were both clear and they were ref's mistake) in that situation. There was no chance that ref could see that. It wasn't even clear after few slowed-down replays, so you can't blame referee for it, but a stupid defender.
Oh, and 2-1! Surprise, but I think Spain will score at least one more goal before the end of match.
Also, Costa is so fucking dirty. You just can't like him and this type of players generally, even despite he's a beast on terrain.
admirschleck wrote:
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Of course Robben & Van Persie are attackers and are supposed to score goals, but what I wanted to say is that they two literally made most of chances by themselves, with someone else (mostly Snejider) just passing the ball and appearing from time to time.
Ah yes, by that meaning of yours, I think that's valid. Probably is so extreme at times because they miss Strootman but it's still valid attacking and - imo - far away from the catenaccio of Greece. Netherlands have scored in each match two goals so far, defensive football is usually a matter of scoring first goal and keeping the lead.
At the end, you won't make me like them as a team that way, so chill out. Last time I checked, I am allowed not to like someone play-style and to have my own opinion.
You can like and dislike whatever you want. I just don't see how Netherlands had an "easy job" with this group or why the 5:1 against Spain is not allowed to count as evidence for the attacking parts of Netherlands play like you argued. I'm pretty chilled alright.
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Posted on 30-06-2014 02:58
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Can we not use "anti-football"? I fail to see how one can judge if something is anti-football or not.
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