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PCM.daily DB Stats discussion
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| owneole |
Posted on 28-07-2014 18:52
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Fair enough, i think we all can agree on that kittel is currently the best sprinter in the world, but it really tends to piss me off when i see peter sagan having better sprinting stats than kristoff, i really hope they do something about it 
He did get 2 sprint stage wins, (tdf) and 3 2nd places, so i really thinks he deserves better stats than his earlier
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| Jesleyh |
Posted on 28-07-2014 18:59
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Of course Kristoff deserves better stats than he had
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| Naskela |
Posted on 28-07-2014 19:02
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I feel Kristoff should be up with Greipel in sprint with lower (Acc) but better (Sta),(Rec) and (Hil). Also think Navardauskas should get better sprint after two third places, Coquard better at sprinting and Hill.
Rojas deserves a upgrade in Hil and Mo.
Edited by Naskela on 29-07-2014 12:05
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| matt17br |
Posted on 29-07-2014 08:22
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Jesleyh wrote:
The three bests aren't the ''three bests'' anymore
Kittel is the best now.
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| madzdaman |
Posted on 29-07-2014 08:33
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Kittel should have 84, Cav 83 and Greipel and the rest lower than that. Kittel and Cav are a notch above the rest with Kittel showing to be the stronger(based on last year at least). |
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| 5hadows |
Posted on 29-07-2014 08:36
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How about the secondary hilly sprinters?
Van Avermaet deserves a rise after those top 3 finishes in the hilly stages where he beat sagan, alba, gallopin in the final sprints.
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| matt17br |
Posted on 29-07-2014 08:47
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I would suggest:
(I don't know what's the top stat in this year's db because I hadn't time to play it, but I guess 83)
Kittel 83
Cavendish-Greipel 82 (Cavendish showed that he's a notch under the Cav of 2008 'till 2012, while Greipel won a lot this year, though this year's Tour I think it was his team's fault...)
Kristoff 81
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Lots 79 (Degenkolb,Sagan etc.)
Edited by matt17br on 29-07-2014 08:52
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| Arberg27 |
Posted on 31-07-2014 05:52
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83: Kittel
82: Cavendish
81: Kristoff and Greipel
80: Bouhanni
76: Sagan
Edited by Arberg27 on 31-07-2014 05:54
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| Ollfardh |
Posted on 31-07-2014 08:52
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What about Tony Martin? I know you guys normaly don't go to 84-85, but with his dominance, I think a TT stat of 84 should be acceptable. He's not only supposed to win time trials, he's supposed to win them with a huge lead as well.
Changed my sig, this was getting absurd.
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| matt17br |
Posted on 31-07-2014 09:09
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Ollfardh wrote:
What about Tony Martin? I know you guys normaly don't go to 84-85, but with his dominance, I think a TT stat of 84 should be acceptable. He's not only supposed to win time trials, he's supposed to win them with a huge lead as well.
Yeah, and he doesn't lose a TT from the far (?) and he coluld win hilly TTs as well.
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| Dancycling |
Posted on 31-07-2014 09:28
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I'd say
Martin 84
Wiggins 82
Cancellara/Phinney 81
Froome 80 |
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| Arberg27 |
Posted on 31-07-2014 11:35
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83: Martin
81: Wiggins and Froome
80: Cancellara |
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| admirschleck |
Posted on 31-07-2014 11:36
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Arberg27 wrote:
83: Kittel
82: Cavendish
81: Kristoff and Greipel
80: Bouhanni
76: Sagan
Aw hell naw!
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| fullenglish |
Posted on 02-08-2014 10:42
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Dancycling wrote:
I'd say
Martin 84
Wiggins 82
Cancellara/Phinney 81
Froome 80
I'd agree on Martin 84, even 85. 2014 Martin and 2012 Wiggins without doubt 2 of the best time triallers ever. Would be great if Wiggins stopped pretending he can still win big stage races and got back near 2012 TT form. He's the only current rider who could get close to an on form TM. Cancellara is still too focused on road racing right now stand a decent chance.
Dumoulin should be up at 80-81 too, but not Phinney. I'd say Phinney/Malori/Dowsett/Dennis are more 78-79.
Edit.
What about RES stat for Martin? From his TDF breakaways i'd put that well up in the 80s too, and 2+ points above everyone else.
Edited by fullenglish on 02-08-2014 10:45
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| baseballlover312 |
Posted on 02-08-2014 14:32
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Phinney was injured after he won the US TT and hasn't been active recently so that's kind of tough to judge.
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| depeche92 |
Posted on 02-08-2014 14:44
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fullenglish wrote:
Dancycling wrote:
I'd say
Martin 84
Wiggins 82
Cancellara/Phinney 81
Froome 80
I'd agree on Martin 84, even 85. 2014 Martin and 2012 Wiggins without doubt 2 of the best time triallers ever. Would be great if Wiggins stopped pretending he can still win big stage races and got back near 2012 TT form. He's the only current rider who could get close to an on form TM. Cancellara is still too focused on road racing right now stand a decent chance.
Dumoulin should be up at 80-81 too, but not Phinney. I'd say Phinney/Malori/Dowsett/Dennis are more 78-79.
Dumoulin never beat guys like Phinney or Malori. He should be at 79 no more
Edited by depeche92 on 02-08-2014 14:49
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| Selwink |
Posted on 02-08-2014 14:53
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He did beat Cancellara
and Phinney last year
If Dumoulin is 79, what do you suggest for Dowsett/Dennis then?
Edited by Selwink on 02-08-2014 14:55
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| depeche92 |
Posted on 02-08-2014 15:11
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Selwink wrote:
He did beat Cancellara
and Phinney last year
If Dumoulin is 79, what do you suggest for Dowsett/Dennis then?
Rui Costa also beat Cancellara, so now he deserve 80??
Dumoulin, Phinney, Malori 79
Dennis, Downsett 78 |
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| toon83 |
Posted on 02-08-2014 17:11
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Should De Marchi get a stats upgrade due to his consistent break away involvement lately and his strong climbing in doing so? |
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| admirschleck |
Posted on 02-08-2014 17:13
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toon83 wrote:
Should De Marchi get a stats upgrade due to his consistent break away involvement lately and his strong climbing in doing so?
Yes.
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