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| the_hoyle |
Posted on 10-03-2015 16:24
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You have lost the quality of the original jersey on the NCs. How did you create them? With bucket fill on the finished or using the same techniques to make the original?
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| MARSUPILAMI |
Posted on 10-03-2015 16:26
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I used the bucket filler but I also corrected the logos which looked bad.
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| the_hoyle |
Posted on 10-03-2015 16:29
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That is where the drop in quality came about! Bucket fill is a quick fix but not good. You went from a good quality original to be pixelated NCs.
Try using different layers like this:
Layer 1 base jersey
Layer 2 short design
Layer 3 short logos
Etc
Etc
That way, when you work on NCs you can change things bit by bit and keep the quality
Edited by the_hoyle on 10-03-2015 16:34
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| MARSUPILAMI |
Posted on 10-03-2015 16:37
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Late...
For my next NCs I´ll do that, thank you the_hoyle
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| the_hoyle |
Posted on 10-03-2015 16:49
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MARSUPILAMI wrote:
Late...
For my next NCs I´ll do that, thank you the_hoyle
Late? What do you mean?
And go back and improve the current NCs instead of doing it on the next ones. Work on this fully and then move on! Take your time on one jersey
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| MARSUPILAMI |
Posted on 10-03-2015 16:51
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I´m not going to repeat the work! I could correct some parts, as I have already done with the original, but not doing it once again form scratch! Are we crazy?
Three more NCs:
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| the_hoyle |
Posted on 10-03-2015 16:55
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Fine then, don't follow my advice and have really poor quality NCs! This is why you will never improve as you don't have the patience to go back and do a proper job with the adivce given.
I have tried to help but I'm out!
As you say - bye!
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| Scattershot Will |
Posted on 10-03-2015 16:57
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What is the top one?
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| MARSUPILAMI |
Posted on 10-03-2015 16:58
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Bye anyway.
Yesterday some people gave me some advices and I followed them and now the shirt is good. But I only needed to change some things, not to do the NCs once again.
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| Scattershot Will |
Posted on 10-03-2015 18:06
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It is like your norway jersey it really does not represent the country, if you listen to advice you might get better.
"Fine then, don't follow my advice and have really poor quality NCs! This is why you will never improve as you don't have the patience to go back and do a proper job with the adivce given.
I have tried to help but I'm out!
As you say - bye!" this is one less person giving you advice, you are not going to get better if you ignore them
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| fjhoekie |
Posted on 10-03-2015 19:36
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Mars, really, lose that attitude of your if you want to learn.
Even I can see you're doing things wrong which bring down the quality (Not sure which, but if your attitude was better I'm sure hoyle would've helped on this). The NCs in particular are horrible. The collar (?) is pixelated, logos are just bad quality, probably fill option and the shorts are just laughable.
All advice I can give you is work with layers, and remake the base jersey. Save the file as a .psd so you can easily remove the backgroundcolours and add in an NC template. I'm sure the quality would improve.
If you refuse to even give a normal comment on this I'm also done with you.
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| TheManxMissile |
Posted on 10-03-2015 19:51
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Your work is slowly getting worse somewhow (at least to my eyes). Those SaxoBank NC's above have horrid pixelation in many places and do not look at all good. The work just seems incredibly rushed. A good jersey can take hours to make, and a great jersey will take time to make.
You need to slow down and start making one jersey as best as you can make it. Yes people will be critical of your work, but they only want to help. If you cannot take some constructive criticism you will never even be a decent graphics artist, let alone a good one.
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| MARSUPILAMI |
Posted on 11-03-2015 15:27
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I have made a basis for the NCs. This is the basis:
It is really similar to the original shirt, but now I´ll try to make GOOD NCs. Let´s see the results in a few minutes...
PS: Maybe this basis is even better than the original shirt xD
Edited by MARSUPILAMI on 11-03-2015 16:31
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| MARSUPILAMI |
Posted on 11-03-2015 15:44
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I can´t fill the areas properly.
When I try to colour in red (with the bucket filler) the above part, all the front part gets coloured, and the same with the back. But if I try to colour in yellow the middle part (in the front and in the back), it gets coloured...
Could somebody try to fix that problem for me? Thanks
PS: If you don´t fix that, it´s not a problem. I´ll continue doing NCs as the yesterday´s ones
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| roturn |
Posted on 11-03-2015 15:49
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The main problem is the bucket filler imo.
You should use several different layers as The_Hoyle suggested. Then you can change the layer colour one by one without the bucket filler. |
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| Ian Butler |
Posted on 11-03-2015 15:49
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I guess that's what everyone's been saying. You don't make NCs with the bucket filler? 
You could outline next to the limit what you want to fill with a new line (in the same color you wat to fill it with) and then fill that part. You can manually color the rest zoomed in, to avoid textures  |
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| MARSUPILAMI |
Posted on 11-03-2015 16:29
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I have finished the Spanish NC but, what version do you prefer?
The only change is the colour in the shorts. Tell me what do you prefer and I´ll make all NCs with the same pattern
Edited by MARSUPILAMI on 11-03-2015 17:04
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| TheManxMissile |
Posted on 11-03-2015 16:43
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This might just be me but some of the shapes on the Saxo jersey don't seem symetrical (don't mirror down the middle)... anyone else think that or do my eyes need testing?
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| MARSUPILAMI |
Posted on 11-03-2015 16:46
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I think they´re symetrical...
EDIT: But anyway it wouldn´t be a huge problem!
Edited by MARSUPILAMI on 11-03-2015 16:48
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| roturn |
Posted on 11-03-2015 16:49
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No. They aren`t.
Just by a very quick test it`s 61 to 74 pixels left/right on the shorts.
So not symetrical. |
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