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Volta Ciclista a Catalunya 2014
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| SSJ2Luigi |
Posted on 26-03-2014 18:52
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Selwink wrote:
The best broadcast of the finish so far 
so I'll think that I'm watching the replay tomorrow as I fell asleep today 
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| dark_x2012 |
Posted on 26-03-2014 18:55
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It can't have been Pozzovivo as he finished sixth. Anyway, I start doubting whether Sky will be able to do something this year as for now both Froome and Porte fail epically. I know they've had some health problems but how come that both leaders are suffering right now, when the period for getting in good shape starts. Hope they'll be fine for le Tour and Giro respectively. |
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| Alakagom |
Posted on 26-03-2014 19:02
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Consider Froome didn't race competitively since Oman and this finish didn't suit him as well compared to Purito - he did well today, I reckon Sky was happy with that.
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| dark_x2012 |
Posted on 26-03-2014 19:11
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Well he tried an attack but was too late and he wasn't strong enough. Also he lost too much as Tejay managed to pass him. And van Garderen doesn't have the best acceleration. |
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| deek12345 |
Posted on 26-03-2014 19:16
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gotlandrules wrote:
alexkr00 wrote:
gotlandrules wrote:
67 BETANCUR Carlos AG2R La Mondiale 1:50 behind
Did he have a mechanical or something? 
I doubt it. He was at the back of the group the entire day
Okey, so it was Pozzovivo at the back of the AG2R-train the whole climb? i really hate that commentator guy on english eurosport, he is correct 0% of the time.
that guys carlton Kirby hes a moron,and hasn't got clue,they got rid of david harmon,and now Kirby does all ther major races  (BIG MISTAKE .
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| baseballlover312 |
Posted on 26-03-2014 19:19
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Dan you are a failure to everyone.
Luckily the gaps were small and Talansky and Ryder were up there.
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| Jesleyh |
Posted on 26-03-2014 19:22
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Well, Dan did bad at Tirreno as well, so I wouldn't expect him to be up here anyway.
Plus, I still think he's not really good at long climbs, though you couldn't really regard this as a long climb, considering how the race went... 
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| baseballlover312 |
Posted on 26-03-2014 19:23
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Jesleyh wrote:
Well, Dan did bad at Tirreno as well, so I wouldn't expect him to be up here anyway.
Plus, I still think he's not really good at long climbs, though you couldn't really regard this as a long climb, considering how the race went...
Besides the fact he won the race last year so your parcour argument is invalid.
He obviously just isn't on form. luckily Garmin have 2 other great leaders.
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| Jesleyh |
Posted on 26-03-2014 19:25
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I know he won it last year, but I just don't think you can expect him to beat guys like Froome, Contador & Quintana on long climbs.
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| baseballlover312 |
Posted on 26-03-2014 19:28
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Jesleyh wrote:
I know he won it last year, but I just don't think you can expect him to beat guys like Froome, Contador & Quintana on long climbs.
He beat Purito and Quintana on the climbs, Froome isn't in great form or dope right now and some would argue all those are better than Contador besides his form.
Not saying he's as good as him, but also in the Tour last year, it definitely is possible.
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| Pellizotti2 |
Posted on 26-03-2014 19:29
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It's always a pleasure to watch Purito winning! I'd love it if he could defend the lead till the end, but I think Froome could strike back tomorrow
baseballlover312 wrote:
Dan you are a failure to everyone.
He did exactly the same thing on the first MTF at last year's race
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| issoisso |
Posted on 26-03-2014 19:29
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baseballlover312 wrote:
Besides the fact he won the race last year so your parcour argument is invalid
Least deserved win ever.
He was gifted the win because the yellow jersey crashed out and the peloton waited for minutes to see if he'd rejoin.
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| baseballlover312 |
Posted on 26-03-2014 19:30
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Pellizotti2 wrote:
It's always a pleasure to watch Purito winning! I'd love it if he could defend the lead till the end, but I think Froome could strike back tomorrow
baseballlover312 wrote:
Dan you are a failure to everyone.
He did exactly the same thing on the first MTF at last year's race
Oh yes, I remember that now. i had forgotten because I believe there were 1 more mtn stages last year. Garmin are very strong this year ere, they should launch a mountain team attack PCM style.
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| Jesleyh |
Posted on 26-03-2014 19:31
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He beat them once? So?
Kelderman beat Hesjedal today, so he can win the Giro this year as well.
Plus, Quintana wasn't the current Quintana at that point.
Shame the vid about that Catalunya stage doesn't work anymore, since I'm not sure how that stage went.
Edit: Ah, Isso clears it up. Point stands.
One thing's sure, Martin isn't close to Contador, Purito, Froome & Quintana on longer climbs.
Edited by Jesleyh on 26-03-2014 19:32
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| baseballlover312 |
Posted on 26-03-2014 19:35
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Jesleyh wrote:
He beat them once? So?
Kelderman beat Hesjedal today, so he can win the Giro this year as well.
Plus, Quintana wasn't the current Quintana at that point.
Shame the vid about that Catalunya stage doesn't work anymore, since I'm not sure how that stage went.
Edit: Ah, Isso clears it up. Point stands.
One thing's sure, Martin isn't close to Contador, Purito, Froome & Quintana on longer climbs.
IIRC Dan was int he break all day, it was a huge one. They had about 45 seconds or a minute when Martin attacked away and held the gap for 17 km to the line.
I never said he was. Did you read my post? Point is that he can be them once. H's not as good as them but on seperate occasions he can do better.
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| Montolivo |
Posted on 26-03-2014 19:35
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Pretty good from Aru being 11th for his first race of the season. |
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| Aquarius |
Posted on 26-03-2014 19:35
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dark_x2012 wrote:
It can't have been Pozzovivo as he finished sixth. Anyway, I start doubting whether Sky will be able to do something this year as for now both Froome and Porte fail epically. I know they've had some health problems but how come that both leaders are suffering right now, when the period for getting in good shape starts. Hope they'll be fine for le Tour and Giro respectively.
Without going the easy way and pointing at Henao and all the various and questionably legit pullings out of races, here are a few thoughts to explain :
- as already stated, Froome hasn't raced competitively since Oman, so his current form (where he stands compared to his potential) is unknown
- use that same argument for Porte with a different race than Oman as reference
- add a potentially actual disease (virus, germ, anything)
- we know they're strong... after 10 days of racing, 4 hours of racing, on 20-50 minutes efforts, on 7 % percentages or more, but that doesn't say what they're worth after two days, on a rather flat mountain, especially in the cold. Their power profiles (power derived from time or power per kg derived from time) is probably not perfectly suited for this.
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| Jesleyh |
Posted on 26-03-2014 19:38
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baseballlover312 wrote:
Jesleyh wrote:
He beat them once? So?
Kelderman beat Hesjedal today, so he can win the Giro this year as well.
Plus, Quintana wasn't the current Quintana at that point.
Shame the vid about that Catalunya stage doesn't work anymore, since I'm not sure how that stage went.
Edit: Ah, Isso clears it up. Point stands.
One thing's sure, Martin isn't close to Contador, Purito, Froome & Quintana on longer climbs.
IIRC Dan was int he break all day, it was a huge one. They had about 45 seconds or a minute when Martin attacked away and held the gap for 17 km to the line.
I never said he was. Did you read my post? Point is that he can be them once. H's not as good as them but on seperate occasions he can do better.
Not feeling this discussion gets any further anyway, but allright
Yes I read the post. You said he isn't as good, but it's definitely possible to beat them all. So he should at least be a bit close to them then, if I follow that logic.
Well, I think he isn't ''close''
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| baseballlover312 |
Posted on 26-03-2014 19:40
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Closer than Kelderman. Whatever, i don't really care. We all have our outlooks.
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Edited by baseballlover312 on 26-03-2014 19:43
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| Jesleyh |
Posted on 26-03-2014 19:42
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Yeah, lets involve Kelderman. Closer than Kittel as well. And closer than Boonen, and closer than Tony Martin. And Sancho
Though I have to see how ''2014 Kelderman'' is on long climbs, but for now, yes, closer than Kelderman.
But allright, lets leave it.
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And yes, you told me about the Catalunya stage. And then Isso cleared it up
Edited by Jesleyh on 26-03-2014 19:51
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