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Vuelta a España - Week 2
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| Wilier |
Posted on 28-08-2012 18:03
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Pellizotti2 wrote:
Sky managed to drop one GC guy when trying to split the field. 
| 138 | 183 | HENAO, Sergio Luis | SKY | + 2' 40'' |
And Pate lost another 03'49". |
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| Pellizotti2 |
Posted on 28-08-2012 18:05
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Wilier wrote:
Pellizotti2 wrote:
Sky managed to drop one GC guy when trying to split the field.
| 138 | 183 | HENAO, Sergio Luis | SKY | + 2' 40'' |
And Pate lost another 03'49".
He's just being nice, giving the other riders a chance. His racing starts in the third week, where he'll gain an hour per day.
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| fcancellara |
Posted on 28-08-2012 18:09
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Pellizotti2 wrote:
Wilier wrote:
Pellizotti2 wrote:
Sky managed to drop one GC guy when trying to split the field.
| 138 | 183 | HENAO, Sergio Luis | SKY | + 2' 40'' |
And Pate lost another 03'49".
He's just being nice, giving the other riders a chance. His racing starts in the third week, where he'll gain an hour per day.
He could win this if he wouldn't have to work for Froome all the time. Oh, and he's a much better climber than Siutsou.
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| Schleck96 |
Posted on 28-08-2012 18:12
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Can someone explain me the "Super Pate" jokes? |
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| kumazan |
Posted on 28-08-2012 18:12
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fcancellara wrote:
Oh, and he's a much better climber than Siutsou.
And he doesn't break his leg, unlike that silly Belarussian.
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| fcancellara |
Posted on 28-08-2012 18:14
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Schleck96 wrote:
Can someone explain me the "Super Pate" jokes?
Bushwackers.
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| Wilier |
Posted on 28-08-2012 18:16
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Look who was at the finish today. Anybody remember him?
https://yfrog.com/...
Edited by Wilier on 28-08-2012 18:17
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| aymen |
Posted on 28-08-2012 18:18
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anyway people i don't like suspecting people without a clue, i will look the dopping topic in the night but tomoroww is the day where froome will take the lead  |
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| Schleck96 |
Posted on 28-08-2012 18:28
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Mosquera right? |
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| issoisso |
Posted on 28-08-2012 18:39
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Schleck96 wrote:
Can someone explain me the "Super Pate" jokes?
There's an american guy called Bushwackers from the same region as Danny Pate who overrates him to a ridiculous degree, saying Pate is the best domestique in the peloton, saying Pate is a top level stage racer, etc etc.
The funniest part is he actually believes it.
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Mosquera right?
Looks like a hobo.
He's been writing columns for newspapers.
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| Montolivo |
Posted on 28-08-2012 19:01
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Pellizotti2 wrote:
Spilak23 wrote:
Just have to ask. What makes you think Gadret is on doping?
He hasn't tested positive before. Has he acctually been named in any doping ring?
I'm not saying he is not on it, but I wouldn't think he would be a doper based on his results.
They're talking about Froome. The first quote in isso's post was about the Gadret joke, the second was about aymen's Froome belief. 
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| Schleck96 |
Posted on 28-08-2012 19:02
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issoisso wrote:
Schleck96 wrote:
Can someone explain me the "Super Pate" jokes?
There's an american guy called Bushwackers from the same region as Danny Pate who overrates him to a ridiculous degree, saying Pate is the best domestique in the peloton, saying Pate is a top level stage racer, etc etc.
The funniest part is he actually believes it.
Oh now I get it! Thank you |
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| Aquarius |
Posted on 28-08-2012 19:26
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Pellizotti2 wrote:
Spilak23 wrote:
Just have to ask. What makes you think Gadret is on doping?
He hasn't tested positive before. Has he acctually been named in any doping ring?
I'm not saying he is not on it, but I wouldn't think he would be a doper based on his results.
They're talking about Froome. The first quote in isso's post was about the Gadret joke, the second was about aymen's Froome belief.
Still the point about Gadret stands.
To make a long story short : he's got a baaaad reputation about it. And his results (how he performs in general) seem to match the idea very well.
But he never got caught, and to my knowledge never was the subject of an investigation.
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| wackojackohighcliffe |
Posted on 28-08-2012 19:35
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Aquarius wrote:
Pellizotti2 wrote:
Spilak23 wrote:
Just have to ask. What makes you think Gadret is on doping?
He hasn't tested positive before. Has he acctually been named in any doping ring?
I'm not saying he is not on it, but I wouldn't think he would be a doper based on his results.
They're talking about Froome. The first quote in isso's post was about the Gadret joke, the second was about aymen's Froome belief.
Still the point about Gadret stands.
To make a long story short : he's got a baaaad reputation about it. And his results (how he performs in general) seem to match the idea very well.
But he never got caught, and to my knowledge never was the subject of an investigation.
And don't get me started about AG2R.
Oh please do. |
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| Spilak23 |
Posted on 28-08-2012 19:40
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wackojackohighcliffe wrote:
Aquarius wrote:
Pellizotti2 wrote:
Spilak23 wrote:
Just have to ask. What makes you think Gadret is on doping?
He hasn't tested positive before. Has he acctually been named in any doping ring?
I'm not saying he is not on it, but I wouldn't think he would be a doper based on his results.
They're talking about Froome. The first quote in isso's post was about the Gadret joke, the second was about aymen's Froome belief.
Still the point about Gadret stands.
To make a long story short : he's got a baaaad reputation about it. And his results (how he performs in general) seem to match the idea very well.
But he never got caught, and to my knowledge never was the subject of an investigation.
And don't get me started about AG2R.
Oh please do.
I didn't say that.
Edited by Spilak23 on 28-08-2012 19:40
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| wackojackohighcliffe |
Posted on 28-08-2012 19:50
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I was talking to Aquarius. |
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| Aquarius |
Posted on 28-08-2012 20:30
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wackojackohighcliffe wrote:
Aquarius wrote:
And don't get me started about AG2R.
Oh please do.
They're much more tolerant than any other French Pro Tour team, or Pro Continental (whilst Roubaix must be hard challengers, they're much smaller), regarding you-know-what.
In the last ten years, they had or have had many riders whose doping use was rumoured or well-known. Some even got caught (Efimkin). The lists of others is quite long too, and I'd probably miss some names if I tried to write it down.
Given that, it's no surprise than when some dodgy half-big names decide to sign for a French team, they sign with AG2R. Same goes for French "talents" who had not been signed or kept by any domestic team when riding in lower categories on home soil and had to sign for some tolerant foreign team. When they come back and head to AG2R, it means a lot (although it could also be random, I know).
There again, I suggest you look at their transfers history, to see what pictures it draws about some riders (I don't feel comfy writing names here, Carl Naïbo once sued a guy for less than that  Oops, I just wrote one name). |
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| wackojackohighcliffe |
Posted on 28-08-2012 20:47
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OK, cheers. I thought Cofidis was the dodgy French team. But maybe 'was' is the operative word. |
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| issoisso |
Posted on 28-08-2012 20:49
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Oh they weren't all that dodgy betwee 2005 and 2011. But with the current management it doesn't get much dodgier.
Sigh. Most new teams or teams with new management are extremely dodgy right now. Even GreenEdge went and got the doctors from the AIS that, as is well documented, spent the past two decades doping youth athletes
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| jph27 |
Posted on 28-08-2012 20:52
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issoisso wrote:
Oh they weren't all that dodgy betwee 2005 and 2011. But with the current management it doesn't get much dodgier.
Sigh. Most new teams or teams with new management are extremely dodgy right now. Even GreenEdge went and got the doctors from the AIS that, as is
well documented, spent the past two decades doping youth athletes
Unlike Katusha, who were dodgy enough and then decided to bring in Holczer. |
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