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| admirschleck |
Posted on 23-05-2014 17:08
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wackojackohighcliffe wrote:
Don't just say what would happen, put your money where your mouth is and organise one.
There is no need to organise straight parade, just as there's no need to organise gay parade. Gays just wants some attention and they want to fight for some rights and equality they already have. Logic.
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Posted on 23-05-2014 17:14
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baseballlover312 wrote:
wackojackohighcliffe wrote:
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Lot of misunderstanding of what a Gay Pride Parade is. It is not a rally to protest about laws or to show how they are normal. It is a celebration of gay culture and lifestyle (not sex). There is no difference between a gay pride parade and say the Notting Hill Carnival we have in London.
So you think if I organized a Straight Pride Parade it would be completely fine with everyone, even if it was just celebrating the lifestyle and culture? No, of course not. Double standard.
Maybe not with everyone but neither is Gay Pride. It would be fine with me. Don't just say what would happen, put your money where your mouth is and organise one.
That would be a PR meltdown and you know it. It isn't politically correct enough.
Give over.
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Posted on 23-05-2014 17:30
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Schleck96 wrote:
@Neillster In your opinion, God is capable of doing anything, right?
No, God is not capable of sinning |
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Posted on 23-05-2014 17:32
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Neillster wrote:
Schleck96 wrote:
@Neillster In your opinion, God is capable of doing anything, right?
No, God is not capable of sinning
Murder is a sin. God murdered all those firstborn sons, therefore he sinned.
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Posted on 23-05-2014 17:36
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Neillster wrote:
Schleck96 wrote:
@Neillster In your opinion, God is capable of doing anything, right?
No, God is not capable of sinning
So.... is God capable of creating a stone that even he can't lift? (old but gold) |
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Posted on 23-05-2014 17:46
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Selwink wrote:
Neillster wrote:
Schleck96 wrote:
@Neillster In your opinion, God is capable of doing anything, right?
No, God is not capable of sinning
Murder is a sin. God murdered all those firstborn sons, therefore he sinned.
Agreed, murder is a sin, but God did not murder those firstborn sons.
They died, as we all do, as a result of Adam's sin.
Death comes as a result of sin.
1 Corinthians 15:21 & 22 'For as by a man came death, by a man has also come the resurrection of the dead. For as in Adam all die, so also in Christ all shall be made alive.'
So that God killed those firstborns, as with everyone, it is not murder, it is their punishment to uphold the justice of God. |
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Posted on 23-05-2014 17:47
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Schleck96 wrote:
Neillster wrote:
Schleck96 wrote:
@Neillster In your opinion, God is capable of doing anything, right?
No, God is not capable of sinning
So.... is God capable of creating a stone that even he can't lift? (old but gold)
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Posted on 23-05-2014 17:58
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Posted on 23-05-2014 18:00
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admirschleck wrote:
wackojackohighcliffe wrote:
Don't just say what would happen, put your money where your mouth is and organise one.
There is no need to organise straight parade, just as there's no need to organise gay parade. Gays just wants some attention and they want to fight for some rights and equality they already have. Logic.
Well apart from the fact that the second part is simply untrue in any country where marriage rights are afforded to all consensual couples, there's nothing wrong with celebrating your culture and freedom the same day a St. Paddy's day parade would. I'm assuming there aren't any parades near you around February 15th. The parades don't exclude you on basis of your sexuality, the same way that you would be allowed to join in, say, a Caribbean street carnival regardless of your ethnicity. Logic.
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| cactus-jack |
Posted on 23-05-2014 18:15
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admirschleck wrote:
wackojackohighcliffe wrote:
Don't just say what would happen, put your money where your mouth is and organise one.
There is no need to organise straight parade, just as there's no need to organise gay parade. Gays just wants some attention and they want to fight for some rights and equality they already have. Logic.
You are right, gays everywhere can adopt and get married... I'm sorry, but I'm close to calling you a moron for making such a statement, but I wont.
There's a fine line between "psychotherapist" and "psycho the rapist"
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| baseballlover312 |
Posted on 23-05-2014 18:16
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cactus-jack wrote:
admirschleck wrote:
wackojackohighcliffe wrote:
Don't just say what would happen, put your money where your mouth is and organise one.
There is no need to organise straight parade, just as there's no need to organise gay parade. Gays just wants some attention and they want to fight for some rights and equality they already have. Logic.
You are right, gays everywhere can adopt and get married... I'm sorry, but I'm close to calling you a moron for making such a statement, but I wont.
That's not what I meant though. If you think about what a pride parade is, like TMM said, then that's irrelevant.
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| admirschleck |
Posted on 23-05-2014 18:21
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cactus-jack wrote:
admirschleck wrote:
wackojackohighcliffe wrote:
Don't just say what would happen, put your money where your mouth is and organise one.
There is no need to organise straight parade, just as there's no need to organise gay parade. Gays just wants some attention and they want to fight for some rights and equality they already have. Logic.
You are right, gays everywhere can adopt and get married... I'm sorry, but I'm close to calling you a moron for making such a statement, but I wont.
You just did. Anyways, let me correct myself. They have most of rights as normal people, so there's no need to make a parade and cause additional problems.
You can ask for rights on another way, but they just want attention and they're surely getting it by organizing such an event.
Edited by admirschleck on 23-05-2014 18:21
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| wackojackohighcliffe |
Posted on 23-05-2014 19:03
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admirschleck wrote:
cactus-jack wrote:
admirschleck wrote:
wackojackohighcliffe wrote:
Don't just say what would happen, put your money where your mouth is and organise one.
There is no need to organise straight parade, just as there's no need to organise gay parade. Gays just wants some attention and they want to fight for some rights and equality they already have. Logic.
You are right, gays everywhere can adopt and get married... I'm sorry, but I'm close to calling you a moron for making such a statement, but I wont.
You just did. Anyways, let me correct myself. They have most of rights as normal people, so there's no need to make a parade and cause additional problems.
You can ask for rights on another way, but they just want attention and they're surely getting it by organizing such an event.
You highlighted the exact need to ask for those rights, for equality, whether it's by these means is another matter. And they don't cause problems, unless you think annoying bigots is a serious issue.
Even if it isn't about arguing for rights, it doesn't mean they're asking for attention. It's just a celebration of a supposed culture, of unity, of freedom.
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Posted on 23-05-2014 19:26
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I think we'll never find common ground, neither will convince each other, so I'll just stop the discussion on this topic. We just have different perspectives. Peace!
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| wackojackohighcliffe |
Posted on 23-05-2014 19:37
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Posted on 23-05-2014 19:40
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Otherwise, we would just write pointless posts about it whole night and that's not how I want to spend it.
Edited by admirschleck on 23-05-2014 19:41
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| TheManxMissile |
Posted on 23-05-2014 20:42
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admirschleck wrote:
Otherwise, we would just write pointless posts about it whole night and that's not how I want to spend it.
Use the format i prefer proposed a page or two back. Homosexuals should not be allowed to marry or adopt because... (insert reasons here, but you cant argue religion or sex)
@bbl
If it's a celebration of culture then why not? Take the Notting Hill Carnival in London. Its a celebration of afro-American culture that does not annoy anyone, unless its a bigoted racist. Why can heterosexuals not have a similar style celebration? Its not overtly offensive or exclusionary so where would the problem arise.
Then how does that become different to a Gay Pride event? They are not exclusionary or intently offensive.
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| baseballlover312 |
Posted on 23-05-2014 20:43
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TheManxMissile wrote:
admirschleck wrote:
Otherwise, we would just write pointless posts about it whole night and that's not how I want to spend it.
Use the format i prefer proposed a page or two back. Homosexuals should not be allowed to marry or adopt because... (insert reasons here, but you cant argue religion or sex)
@bbl
If it's a celebration of culture then why not? Take the Notting Hill Carnival in London. Its a celebration of afro-American culture that does not annoy anyone, unless its a bigoted racist. Why can heterosexuals not have a similar style celebration? Its not overtly offensive or exclusionary so where would the problem arise.
Then how does that become different to a Gay Pride event? They are not exclusionary or intently offensive.
because I said it is a double standard. You think the public would say the same thing about a straight culture parade or a white culture festival?
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Posted on 23-05-2014 20:51
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The only way to stop discrimination is by raising awareness. Things such as gay pride marches though that, and give people a voice. If people see these parades presented as something normal and acceptable, then societal attitudes will shift for the better. |
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| TheManxMissile |
Posted on 23-05-2014 20:53
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I think people are too touchy and it probably would be contested as some form of endorsed conditioning. However i like to believe that if such an event occurred it would be well received by heterosexual/minorities.
I will concede i can't argue this particularly well as there is nothing i can use to support my viewpoint that a hetero pride event would be well received. What i can say is that most people are fine with gay pride events and other celebrations of culture so perhaps we could make a similar assumption that most would be ok with it. Of course only an assumption, but it is the trend.
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