Tafiolmo wrote:
Important Notice

Just letting everybody know that the stat team has been increased and Croatia will be working on stats as well. His knowledge at CT level is fantastic, something that the forum has really lacked to do the stats as well as WT and PT level. Croatia will be working solely on CT stats which is the biggest division with the largest pool of riders and is the hardest to research as well, so he has a lot of work to do. He will be aided by Kodman an associate member who is equally knowledgeable at CT level who can give him a second opinion when needed.

To get the best stats, whenever the stats are done another stat team member will give a second opinion, so we get the best balance possible.

So the hierarchy of the stats team will look like this.

CT Level will be done by Croatia (Kodman)
PT Level will be done by Tafiolmo (Croatia)
WT Level will be done by Tafiolmo (Croatia)

Myself and Croatia will have the final say on the stats, but Team Leader Matt who does a million things anuway, will have the final say when there is a doubt or dispute over rider stats, as well as giving other suggestions when needed.

On top of this the team also has an internal stat chat with the other PCM Team Members as well and of course You Guys also give great stat suggestions which are always taken into consideration as well.

So as you see the stats work like the USA is supposed to be working and has a checks and balances system to make it as democratic as possible, so nobody in the team can give purely subjective stats.

Now the best bit......

With the stat team expansion, we plan to release stat updates every single month (if that will be possible), so the game will have the most realistic stats posible, as rider stats can change daily. At the moment a number of CT and some PT level stats are still being improved (so thanks for your patience) and by the next update the db should be 100% at its bottom end with its CT stats.

Thanks for reading.
PCMdaily DB Stats Team

emre99 wrote:
GvA cobble stat seems to be 81. I heard some people (including me) wants to know why he has the high stat in the database.

Ollfardh wrote:
In my opinion Vanmarcke or Boonen aren't worse than GVA or Stybar, but that's personal preference. Either way, with the cobble classics around the corner, we'll have a better image in a few weeks

For example, I personally believe that Pinot's downhill stats should be higher than what they are now. He has made huge progress in his downhill in the last couple of years, but what people remember is his one bad day on the Tour last year. Granted, he's nowhere near the level of Bardet or Nibali but he's better than 65 IMO, I would put him at 70.

Another thing that I wonder about is how do the DB makers note the GT contenders in relation to the COB stats? It must be difficult to rate them, as apart from the odd stage in a GT (especially Tour de France over the last couple of years), they will almost never race a cobbled classics. But there are some pretty big differences in the stats. Rodriguez has 63 and Froome 68, with most other GT contenders on about 65. But if you take last year's cobbled stage in the Tour, all the favourites except Pinot who had mechanical problems, finished in the same time. Froome was at the front of the peloton at a couple of cobbles stretches but he didn’t create any gaps to Rodriguez for example, so why the big difference?

It looks like the DB makers are being criticised for Vanmarcke and his COB stats. Same, he had disappointing results if you look at the places he finished at, but he looked incredibly strong in some of the early classics but was very unlucky with punctures and falls, so I think he deserves his 81.

Tafiolmo wrote:
As I´m the one that mostly imposed these cobbled stats at their top end, I´ll explain how they were reached.

Kristoff 81

As one of Kristoff's biggest fanboys i never understood how he was given 81 on behalf of riders like Terpstra and Vanmarcke, which together with GVA is the best at cobbles in the world imo. Sure he have good results and had allot of bad luck in allot of the classics for the last two years but like he say himself, he is not within the best on flat cobbles but that the more hilly cobbles like they have in the flanders suit him better. He is always very confident about himself but always rule himself out as one of the favorites before the Paris Roubaix etc. 80 with the hill stats he has should be more than enough.

matt17br wrote:

Read the whole post, he was in fact given 80

Ah okay, i am playing with the DB, i forgot that update wasn't included. Then i'm calm again!

gargatouf wrote:
Another thing that I wonder about is how do the DB makers note the GT contenders in relation to the COB stats? It must be difficult to rate them, as apart from the odd stage in a GT (especially Tour de France over the last couple of years), they will almost never race a cobbled classics. But there are some pretty big differences in the stats. Rodriguez has 63 and Froome 68, with most other GT contenders on about 65. But if you take last year's cobbled stage in the Tour, all the favourites except Pinot who had mechanical problems, finished in the same time. Froome was at the front of the peloton at a couple of cobbles stretches but he didn’t create any gaps to Rodriguez for example, so why the big difference?

Croatia14 wrote:
to Machado: I would´ve agreed after 2014, but 2015 was a step back as he couldn´t really express his strength losing his leading role due to the team change...and he wasn´t that great as a domestique to deserve 75 imo