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PCM.daily Stats Discussion
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| Croatia14 |
Posted on 20-07-2017 19:44
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aldrofj wrote:
Suggestions about UKYO :
 Jon Aberasturi is one of the best sprinters in asian races. He is able to beat Canola, Marini, Grosu. I think he deserves more than 70 SP, maybe 72, with something like 68-69 PR.
 Nathan Earle needs a buff in MO, 65 is too low according to his performance during Tour of Japan ( https://www.procyc...17_Stage_6 ). He was also 6th in Willunga Hill during Tour Down Under, and 7th in Falls Creek during Herald Sun Tour. He was also really strong during Tour de Lombok. Something like 69-70 MO and 71-72 HIL should be better.
Oscar Pujol should receive a little buff in HIL and PR. He also deserves better than 61 SP, maybe around 64-65.
Benjamin Prades deserves a little buff in PR too.
 Yoshimitsu Hiratsuka deserves a global buff, he is one of the strongest teammates. Around 67 RY, 65 MO, 67 VAL, 65 SP correspond to his capacities.
thank you very much, implemented all suggestions (almost exactly as you proposed) in the UKYO check-up today 
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| Arberg27 |
Posted on 20-07-2017 19:45
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See TDF last year. This year he has been injured. |
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| Forever the Best |
Posted on 20-07-2017 19:45
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Fuglsang should have 79 or 80. Also Valverde should have 80, for example.
Also, Gaviria>Greipel and Demare>Bouhanni probably. Also EBH and Matthews 79 perhaps?
PS: Kwiatkowski's mountain stat may need to be upgraded after this. (I didn't know what it was before, but 76 is plausible for now) Probably his recovery needs to be upgraded too.
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Gracias Alberto.
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| Forever the Best |
Posted on 20-07-2017 19:47
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Selwink wrote:
Ooh I see some people did not see Arberg before in this thread  I had an argument with him lots of times, but I couldn't resist it this time 
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Gracias Alberto.
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| Forever the Best |
Posted on 20-07-2017 19:53
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Then why Chavez 79 for example?
Also, is there an upgrade coming for Guillaume Martin?
19 in PDBF
16 in Peyragudes
19 in Foix
Also 3rd in Station des Rousses, leading the group of a 35-40 rider peloton (was he in the breakaway?-didn't watch that stage)
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| Arberg27 |
Posted on 20-07-2017 20:39
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| Forever the Best |
Posted on 20-07-2017 20:56
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Oh, you edited before I wrote that. Sorry about Chavez then. But disagree about Poels.
Also, Latour totally cracked in the last 2 stages. Slipping from 13th to 25th in 2 stages. A decrease in REC perhaps?
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| Paul23 |
Posted on 20-07-2017 21:00
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Sorry for the offtopic, but why were you allowed to change your name?
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Posted on 26-11-2024 10:53
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| Forever the Best |
Posted on 20-07-2017 21:03
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Paul23 wrote:
Sorry for the offtopic, but why were you allowed to change your name?
I asked matt if I can change it and said that I use the same username on cyclingnews forum (where I have more than 1000 posts) and la flamme rouge and he changed it.
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| kotmob |
Posted on 20-07-2017 21:08
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kwiat mon +1
uran mon +1
contador res -1
benoot mon +2
roglic ftr +1 des +1
d.martin sta +1
aru rec -1
m.matt hill+1
Edited by kotmob on 20-07-2017 21:22
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| kotmob |
Posted on 20-07-2017 21:14
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greipel sp -1
contador mon -1
nairo rec -1
froome hill -1 des +2 ftr -1
kristoff sp -1
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| LordBeerus |
Posted on 20-07-2017 21:14
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Paul23 wrote:
Sorry for the offtopic, but why were you allowed to change your name?
Every man should be allowed to correct their wrong choices, especially something big like being a Schleck fan |
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| Aquarius97 |
Posted on 20-07-2017 21:22
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I think that Contador, instead of downgrading him in MON, should be heavily downgraded in END, to something like 70. He still climbs with the best in short stages, but when races are longer than 160-170 he doesn't have it anymore
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| kotmob |
Posted on 20-07-2017 21:30
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demare acc +1
m.matt sp +1 |
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| AiZaK |
Posted on 21-07-2017 07:21
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Matt told some weeks ago, you must say Sagan SPR 79, but you dont put Demare Spr +1, because 95% its not possible remember the current stats of the riders |
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| Naskela |
Posted on 21-07-2017 09:38
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Arberg27 wrote:
M0:
82: Froome (much better TT, DH, FL and teammates) Porte, Quintana
81: Bardet, Aru, Landa, Poels
80: Nibali, Contador, Uran, Pinot, Chaves
79: Barguil, Martin, Valverde, Dumoulin, Zakarin, Thomas, Majka, Fuglsang
78: 2xYates, Meintjes, Mollema, Pozzovivo, Jungels, Kruijswijk, Moreno, Nieve
SP:
82: Kittel
81: Cavendish
80: Greipel, Gaviria, Ewan
79: Sagan, Démare, Bouhanni,
78: Kristoff, Degenkolb, Coquard, Matthews, EBH
82: Froome, Porte, Quintana
81: Bardet, Aru, Landa
80: Nibali, Uran, Pinot, Chaves, Dumoulin
79: Barguil, Martin, Valverde, Zakarin, Thomas, Majka, Fuglsang, Poels
78: 2xYates, Meintjes, Contador, Pozzovivo, I.Izagirre, Kruijswijk, Nieve, Spilak
Quintana (Still was the best climber in the giro)
Bardet (Best mountain finisher for the last two years so almost deserving 82 imo)
Aru (Feel he proved he deserved his stats besides this bad last week, lower his rec)
SP:
82: Kittel
81: Cavendish
80: Greipel, Gaviria, Ewan, Démare
79: Sagan, Bouhanni,
78: Kristoff, Degenkolb, Coquard, Matthews, EBH
Demare (borderline 81 imo with lower acc)
EBH (Feel he deserve 79 but probably better to wait for some more results, he performed better on flat stages than hilly ones this year)
Edited by Naskela on 21-07-2017 09:45
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| Lamba |
Posted on 21-07-2017 09:51
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I agree that in PCM terms Barguil have had massive +RDC, but come on... Still 79 after a tour where he's been with the best or ahead of them on pretty much every single mountain?
80 is the least, 81 is deserved and 82 could even be justified!
His STA is incredible and I would put his REC to somewhere between 75 and 80. With the TDF he's had, you have to make him a Nairo-esque contender who just can't do TTR and PRL (which he already can't, but a pure climber and a good one!)
Also; Don't listen to all these trolls saying Contador should be a baroudeur from now on. He had a lot of crashed, dropped down in the GC and still gave us the most entertainment of the usual GC guys. He might not have succeeded, but boy would the race have been boring without him. |
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| Naskela |
Posted on 21-07-2017 10:00
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Lamba wrote:
I agree that in PCM terms Barguil have had massive +RDC, but come on... Still 79 after a tour where he's been with the best or ahead of them on pretty much every single mountain?
80 is the least, 81 is deserved and 82 could even be justified!
His STA is incredible and I would put his REC to somewhere between 75 and 80. With the TDF he's had, you have to make him a Nairo-esque contender who just can't do TTR and PRL (which he already can't, but a pure climber and a good one!)
Also; Don't listen to all these trolls saying Contador should be a baroudeur from now on. He had a lot of crashed, dropped down in the GC and still gave us the most entertainment of the usual GC guys. He might not have succeeded, but boy would the race have been boring without him.
Yesterday i feel 80 or 81 would be justified. But for the rest of the tour he got to do basically what he wanted, he was never a threat to any of the guys in the GC. He has been destroying Contador and Quintana a couple days but that does not really impress that many. He should get an insane Fighter stat (and maybe some flat and rec).
EDIT: Not to mention he should be in the top tier of the GC guys in hilly stages for his effort in Fleche wallone this year and Lombardia and Liege last year.
Edited by Naskela on 21-07-2017 10:09
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| AiZaK |
Posted on 21-07-2017 11:34
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In my opinio Barguil with 79 it's perfect (and 78 in hills) |
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| Lamba |
Posted on 21-07-2017 11:45
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Barguil said before the Tour that he would not be riding for the GC and removing that pressure has seemingly made him more at ease.
By riding more freely and without that pressure, he's now 9th in the GC and have ON ALL MOUTNAIN STAGES followed or beaten the favourites.
He has ALWAYS been touted a major talent - if his only downside is/was his mentality (or the pressure if you want), why shouldn't he get the upgrade he deserves after a most impressive TDF? |
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