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| Spilak23 |
Posted on 16-05-2013 10:36
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Impressive ride from Riblon though the favourites were slacking a bit. Madrazo winning but can't create a big gap. Phinney looks really good in pink
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| Heine |
Posted on 16-05-2013 10:38
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Riblon would've deserved the victory there
Anyway, mountain-stages like this are just giving the victory to Phinney
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| SotD |
Posted on 16-05-2013 10:50
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Keeping Sella behind is nice, taking a minute on Trofimov, Keinath and Eastman is nice, taking 30 seconds of Velits is nice, staying with Ricco, Henao Montoya and Nibali is nice. Not getting rid of Sicard is not so nice.
Overall a good stage, in which it was a little bit of a shame Fothen and Henao Montoya didn't get away, as they could've made the race very interesting. Nice ride from Riblon - I can only hope he continues this form.
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| Smowz |
Posted on 16-05-2013 13:35
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Well the lack of gaps was disappointing to say the least and Sella was not really on it at all there. Madrazo wins the day, the question is can he force himself into the jersey on the next stage.
Need something special to happen at the moment, as Giro could turn into a big dud with that huge ITT still to come.
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| Roman |
Posted on 16-05-2013 16:48
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SotD wrote:
Overall a good stage, in which it was a little bit of a shame Fothen and Henao Montoya didn't get away, as they could've made the race very interesting. Nice ride from Riblon - I can only hope he continues this form.
Agree. It would be great if they both can try to make a big move in the next stage, as it seems it is almost only chance to do that in this Giro. Especially my leader Henao Montoya needs to stay agressive like he was this time, he can problably only gain in this Giro, has nothing to lose.
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| SotD |
Posted on 16-05-2013 17:21
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Roman wrote:
SotD wrote:
Overall a good stage, in which it was a little bit of a shame Fothen and Henao Montoya didn't get away, as they could've made the race very interesting. Nice ride from Riblon - I can only hope he continues this form.
Agree. It would be great if they both can try to make a big move in the next stage, as it seems it is almost only chance to do that in this Giro. Especially my leader Henao Montoya needs to stay agressive like he was this time, he can problably only gain in this Giro, has nothing to lose.
Yeah. Fothen has a little bit more to lose though, as the two remaining TT's suit him pretty well. I doubt he can catch those infront of him purely on TT's though, so he needs to take time on Sicard and Trofimov if he is to fight for a better position than 8th.
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| Levi4life |
Posted on 16-05-2013 18:16
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If Eastman can ride consistently like he is I like our chances of a top 15. Also, Koren is fast becoming my new favorite person. All my riders should be attacking, all the time.
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| SotD |
Posted on 16-05-2013 18:19
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Levi4life wrote:
If Eastman can ride consistently like he is I like our chances of a top 15. Also, Koren is fast becoming my new favorite person. All my riders should be attacking, all the time.
That sucks, as Koren was one of my main targets next year 
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| niconico |
Posted on 16-05-2013 18:22
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A sub-par performance from Keinath on that climb I'd think. Still very good to be in 6th after the first mountain stage!
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| Rin |
Posted on 16-05-2013 23:35
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The nice things I said about De la Fuente in the TOC thread must have lead into Lloret thinking he could be also a good attacking rider like DLF. Well he proved himself that this is not possible..
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| dave92 |
Posted on 16-05-2013 23:59
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Great couple of stages for Phinney. I always felt that taking Pink in the TT would be crucial, and he looks like he has a fair chance of holding onto it tomorrow, potentially into the monster 60 k tt, which is where he needs to pull out a large gap on Madrazo if he is to truly challenge him for the overall victory.
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| SotD |
Posted on 17-05-2013 10:21
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Damn. Those 30 seconds of gap would have been awesome as I would have equalled Nibali, Ricco and Trofimov then.
The latter dissapointed me here. Fothen might actually catch him. 8th so far is good, but its a matter of time before Sella jumps past I think. Italiano bonuses isnt as obvious as earlier though!
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| p3druh |
Posted on 17-05-2013 11:36
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I was hoping for a stage win and a top-10. Half the job is done and the team's on the right track to get the next one. Another stage and another minute on the 11th place.
See Bakelants? This is how it's done!
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| ember |
Posted on 17-05-2013 13:18
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Another good performance by Spilak, he's really aiming for that podium place.
Hopefully he can aggressive on the next hilly stage, as that's the terrain where not many other GC riders should match him.
Great stage win for Pearl Adidas, congratulations! Hopefully our riders can aim for the breakaway in the coming stages, as there's a decent chance another one might stay away. |
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| SotD |
Posted on 17-05-2013 13:41
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Yeah, I actually hoped that Sinner and Lavoine would drop out of the race to have a shot at breakaways with my greek guy 
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| rjc_43 |
Posted on 17-05-2013 13:51
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I do believe I may well have cocked up in team selection here. A stage win does seem a little farfetched at the moment, and my previous years performances in the Giro may well be let down by this current seasons performance.
Still, the questions as to whether Scarponi/Costagli can step up to be leaders in stage races I think is firmly answered. Currently? No. Next season with a little "tweaking"? Still no. But then Cattaneo will mature. I hope. |
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| SotD |
Posted on 17-05-2013 16:04
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Cattenao needs 3 years to fight for top 5 right?
Scarponi could potentially be a top 10 rider imo, as his flat stat should be sufficient. Training him to 80MO and 65 sprint should keep him close to the front I think. Costagli on the other hand with his 62FL and 51SPR could always be in danger of doing a "Fothen" and always place himself in the very back of the pack, if that.
Cataldo should easily be a top 10 GC rider though
EDIT: Did I look at the wrong DB? Think I did.
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| dave92 |
Posted on 17-05-2013 20:08
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Great stage for the team and Phinney. If he can minimize losses to under a minute in the mountain stages he seems to have a real chance. Without any surprise in the hills, Phinney can carry the jersey into the TT where he has to open up another few minutes on Madrazo.
Seeing the whole team on the front gives me confidence in them. We may lack an elite helper, but there is real depth in the squad.
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| rjc_43 |
Posted on 17-05-2013 20:58
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SotD wrote:
Cattenao needs 3 years to fight for top 5 right?
Scarponi could potentially be a top 10 rider imo, as his flat stat should be sufficient. Training him to 80MO and 65 sprint should keep him close to the front I think. Costagli on the other hand with his 62FL and 51SPR could always be in danger of doing a "Fothen" and always place himself in the very back of the pack, if that.
Cataldo should easily be a top 10 GC rider though
EDIT: Did I look at the wrong DB? Think I did.
Yeah, Cataldo was sold for the gain of sprinter Ponzi. We'll see if that pays off in the Tour.
For the wages Scarponi and Costagli are on, they score what I expect, so I can't really complain. It'd just be nice for Wiggle to win everything!  |
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| Pellizotti2 |
Posted on 18-05-2013 10:38
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Very disturbing that my riders keep missing the early breakaways. It's what we're here for, after all. Also a pity that Efimkin lost the KoM lead. On the positive side, both Caruso and Dyachenko seem aggressive towards the end. Looks promising for a stage win.
In the overall, Phinney is looking stronger than I expected. Madrazo would probably have needed to be in pink before the 2nd TT to limit his losses very much, I suspect.
At the moment, I'd say that the key stage will be the MTT. Madrazo should normally go ballistic there and gained plenty of time on Phinney, but I wonder if it's enough to cover the losses after the TT.
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