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| CrueTrue |
Posted on 11-01-2012 08:48
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... and Acqua & Sapone say they might withdraw from the sport.
If they really wanted that Giro invite, they should have invested more (not less) and ensured a World Tour spot  |
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| CrueTrue |
Posted on 11-01-2012 09:31
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CAS' ruling on the Contador case might be delayed...
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| Pellizotti2 |
Posted on 11-01-2012 09:50
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CAS is just lame. 
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| doddy13 |
Posted on 11-01-2012 10:55
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I'm pleased Netapp got an invite, should help promote the Giro in Germany and thats a good thing for sure.
As for Aqua, well it's their fault they don't have an invite. Be a better team, get in. Simple really.
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| Lachi |
Posted on 11-01-2012 11:34
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Reading this article, I think the will ban him.
All three members are practicing attorneys and the report said that they want to make sure the final ruling is air tight and will leave no room for a possible appeal.
The UCI would never appeal at the swiss court, so it seems the judges prepare for the next battle already.
This basically would mean that Contador will ride this season, no matter what the outcome of the CAS ruling will be. |
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| CrueTrue |
Posted on 11-01-2012 11:55
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If CAS decides to ban him, Contador will have to stop riding even if he appeals. |
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| Squire |
Posted on 11-01-2012 11:57
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doddy13 wrote:
As for Aqua, well it's their fault they don't have an invite. Be a better team, get in. Simple really.
Really? Garzelli has done their invite justice for the last few years, and now they have Di Luca and an improved Betancur as well. |
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| Ste117 |
Posted on 11-01-2012 13:09
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He could appeal if banned, Contador is wasting his time, if banned he should accept it, get it over with and get back to the sport and on with his career.
I wish Valverde was banned when the Italian Anit Doping agency banned him, then he would of been back a year sooner, know hes back he can get on with his career and accept what has happened has happened.
(if banned) Contador should do the same.
That's my opinion anyhow.
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| CrueTrue |
Posted on 11-01-2012 13:10
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Worrying article on Velonation about the Contador case.
According to AP, CAS judges blocked the testimony of one of WADA’s chief witnesses, anti-doping scientist Michael Ashenden, who it is believed was going to be asked if he felt Contador could have manipulated his blood during the 2010 Tour de France.
Ashenden is a member of the UCI’s bio passport panel, and is therefore charged with identifying riders who had erratic blood readings consistent with possible blood doping.
AP states that one theory is that Contador could have had two separate infusions around the second rest day of the Tour. The first would be a blood transfusion on July 20th, then a separate infusion of plasma the following day which would have served to dilute the blood and thus conceal signs of changes.
WADA’s proposed theory may have been that a surge in plasticizers could have been linked to the blood transfusion, while the Clenbuterol found in his system could have been introduced by the plasma infusion.
However lawyers for Contador objected and, after deliberation, the CAS panel chairman Efraim Barak reportedly ruled that WADA lawyers could not question Ashenden about the transfusion theory. They could, however, cross-examine an anti-doping consultant for Contador's side, Paul Scott.
The WADA team ultimately remained as part of the trial, but later submitted a written complaint that the CAS panel did not respect WADA's right to be heard. It is understood that this complaint could enable WADA to appeal to the Swiss Federal Tribunal, Switzerland's supreme court, over procedural issues.
https://www.velonation.com/News/ID/108...aring.aspx
Another source: People close to case tell AP that lawyers complain of bias for Contador at CAS hearing
And the original: https://www.usatoday.com/sports/cyclin...52493662/1
Edited by CrueTrue on 11-01-2012 13:14
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| sutty68 |
Posted on 11-01-2012 13:13
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Me thinks that Contador is going to walk away with no charge at all, which will be totally wrong for the sport of cycling |
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| CrueTrue |
Posted on 11-01-2012 13:20
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By the sound of it, yes. But no matter the decision, it also sounds like it's going to be appealed although I certainly doubt that any other court will take up the case after CAS. |
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| Avin Wargunnson |
Posted on 11-01-2012 13:26
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sutty68 wrote:
Me thinks that Contador is going to walk away with no charge at all, which will be totally wrong for the sport of cycling
I doubt banning the best cyclist of the new century for having 0,000something in blood would be much better for the sport, but that is only my personal opinion.
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| CountArach |
Posted on 11-01-2012 13:30
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The first thing that I thought when I read about the delay was that they had decided that he was innocent and wanted to wait until Becca's accusations were old news.
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| CountArach |
Posted on 11-01-2012 13:31
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Avin Wargunnson wrote:
sutty68 wrote:
Me thinks that Contador is going to walk away with no charge at all, which will be totally wrong for the sport of cycling
I doubt banning the best cyclist of the new century for having 0,000something in blood would be much better for the sport, but that is only my personal opinion.
When the legal limit is 0 then yes. It would be a bad thing for the sport to allow the world's best cyclist to break the rules when no one else is allowed to.
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| CrueTrue |
Posted on 11-01-2012 13:34
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We've been over this a lot of times, but let me once again ask: Why does the number matter in this case? If I had 50-something EPO in my body, would that be different?
The thing is: Contador is allowed to have 0,00000000000000 (infinity, no matter what unit) clenbuterol in his body. He had, as far as I remember, 50 picogram, 50.000 femtogram, 50.000.000 attogram clenbuterol. He has to explain how it got there - and he has to come up with proof, not just a theory.
Whether he has any proof, I don't know, but so far, we haven't heard of any.
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| Avin Wargunnson |
Posted on 11-01-2012 13:35
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CountArach wrote:
Avin Wargunnson wrote:
sutty68 wrote:
Me thinks that Contador is going to walk away with no charge at all, which will be totally wrong for the sport of cycling
I doubt banning the best cyclist of the new century for having 0,000something in blood would be much better for the sport, but that is only my personal opinion.
When the legal limit is 0 then yes. It would be a bad thing for the sport to allow the world's best cyclist to break the rules when no one else is allowed to.
Important for me is, if this 0,000something actually increased his performance in some way, do somebody knows actual advantage gained from that amount of clen....?
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| CrueTrue |
Posted on 11-01-2012 13:40
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Again, how is that relevant?
If I use a doping product that doesn't improve my performance (like Ricco), is that okay?
Obviously, the doping product doesn't stay in your body for a very long time. Let's say that I take something on a Monday, but isn't tested until Wednesday - they will find a very little amount, but I will still have benefited from the product. |
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| sutty68 |
Posted on 11-01-2012 13:40
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Avin Wargunnson wrote:
CountArach wrote:
Avin Wargunnson wrote:
sutty68 wrote:
Me thinks that Contador is going to walk away with no charge at all, which will be totally wrong for the sport of cycling
I doubt banning the best cyclist of the new century for having 0,000something in blood would be much better for the sport, but that is only my personal opinion.
When the legal limit is 0 then yes. It would be a bad thing for the sport to allow the world's best cyclist to break the rules when no one else is allowed to.
Important for me is, if this 0,000something actually increased his performance in some way, do somebody knows actual advantage gained from that amount of clen....?
That is a really good point Avin, but at the end of the day, whether it improved his performance or not , it is still a banned substance |
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| fickman |
Posted on 11-01-2012 13:48
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Contador do drugs thats why he was so good. Dont forget the Operación Puerto where he was detected as a client of Fuentes. |
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| andy222c |
Posted on 11-01-2012 14:01
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Roger Kluge missed 3 doping tests in the space of 18 month!
https://www.cyclingnews.com/news/kluge...g-controls
But appearently he won't get a ban... Kind of thought provoking when Alex Rasmussen is facing the almost exact same problem.
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