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Giro d'Italia 2017 - Week 3
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| Paul23 |
Posted on 28-05-2017 16:37
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Dusen wrote:
Shit mountain stages, only reason TomTom wins, Almost all mountains at 6,5 -7% which is great for a big fuck like TomTom, easy to pace on.
No room for climbers to do their thing.
And then he attacked them on the steepest part with over 12%.
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| Guido Mukk |
Posted on 28-05-2017 16:37
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Dusen wrote:
Shit mountain stages, only reason TomTom wins, Almost all mountains at 6,5 -7% which is great for a big fuck like TomTom, easy to pace on.
No room for climbers to do their thing.
What?
Climbers had enough stages to make a difference. One day they decided to play weird tactical games. lasr weeks they did not had legs left |
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| deek12345 |
Posted on 28-05-2017 16:37
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clamel wrote:
Could this be the tightest and perhaps most dramatic GT of all time.
I can't really remember any since the 80s, but then my old memory is slipping fast.
4th place jumping up to the win on the very last stage. Hard to see that happened before.
So glad for Tom D, since he lost the Vuelta last year.....
Cobo 2011 veulta didn't he win by 13 secs or something |
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| clamel |
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It must be a classic. The Pink man taking a dump, losing the jersey, then regaining it from 4th place on the final day.
!!!!!!!!!!! DRAMA !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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| Guido Mukk |
Posted on 28-05-2017 16:38
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Giro was great after all.
Deserved winner..specially after that shit break |
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| Riis123 |
Posted on 28-05-2017 16:39
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Dusen wrote:
Shit mountain stages, only reason TomTom wins, Almost all mountains at 6,5 -7% which is great for a big fuck like TomTom, easy to pace on.
No room for climbers to do their thing.
Plenty of stages, but Quintana was under par. Nibali was about as good as you could expect, but Tom was incredible always minimising the damage and even winning on Oropa. That said, many stages could obviously have designed to give a better show, especially that Dolomite stage where they did a pretty pointless loop to Pontives.
Chapeau Tom, the most interesting is now whether Prudhomme sees Dumoulin as Froome's biggest competitor and design a TT-heavy course. |
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| Paul23 |
Posted on 28-05-2017 16:39
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deek12345 wrote:
clamel wrote:
Could this be the tightest and perhaps most dramatic GT of all time.
I can't really remember any since the 80s, but then my old memory is slipping fast.
4th place jumping up to the win on the very last stage. Hard to see that happened before.
So glad for Tom D, since he lost the Vuelta last year.....
Cobo 2011 veulta didn't he win by 13 secs or something
In front of Froome, yes.
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| deek12345 |
Posted on 28-05-2017 16:40
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Looks like Quintana thought he would just need to turn up to win like Bertie in 2015 underestimated his rivals |
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| Dusen |
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Guido Mukk wrote:
Dusen wrote:
Shit mountain stages, only reason TomTom wins, Almost all mountains at 6,5 -7% which is great for a big fuck like TomTom, easy to pace on.
No room for climbers to do their thing.
What?
Climbers had enough stages to make a difference. One day they decided to play weird tactical games. lasr weeks they did not had legs left
Take an honest look at the mountain in this years Giro, 6,5-7% and ALL of the them for some reason go flat the last 4-5 km to the top. so a clear + for a roleur like Tom |
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| Paul23 |
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Riis123 wrote:
Dusen wrote:
Shit mountain stages, only reason TomTom wins, Almost all mountains at 6,5 -7% which is great for a big fuck like TomTom, easy to pace on.
No room for climbers to do their thing.
Plenty of stages, but Quintana was under par. Nibali was about as good as you could expect, but Tom was incredible always minimising the damage and even winning on Oropa. That said, many stages could obviously have designed to give a better show, especially that Dolomite stage where they did a pretty pointless loop to Pontives.
Chapeau Tom, the most interesting is now whether Prudhomme sees Dumoulin as Froome's biggest competitor and design a TT-heavy course.
But the thing with Froome is, that he actually is a pretty good TTer himself, so it wouldn't be that easy for Tom.
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| lakebeach |
Posted on 28-05-2017 16:40
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What a great GT that was. Congratulations to Tom on the victory.
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| clamel |
Posted on 28-05-2017 16:41
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deek12345 wrote:
clamel wrote:
Could this be the tightest and perhaps most dramatic GT of all time.
I can't really remember any since the 80s, but then my old memory is slipping fast.
4th place jumping up to the win on the very last stage. Hard to see that happened before.
So glad for Tom D, since he lost the Vuelta last year.....
Cobo 2011 veulta didn't he win by 13 secs or something
Yes but then the others was minutes away. We do have 4 guys within striking distance on this one. It's not only the winning margin 1-2 but all the top riders and the swing from 4th to 1st that is truly something I can't remember.
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Posted on 28-05-2017 16:41
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A deserved victory for Dumoulin for Holland and for going when you've gotta go. Bravo Tom.
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| alexkr00 |
Posted on 28-05-2017 16:42
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Second time in Ten Dam's career he has to watch this kind of TT.
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| Paul23 |
Posted on 28-05-2017 16:42
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Dusen wrote:
Guido Mukk wrote:
Dusen wrote:
Shit mountain stages, only reason TomTom wins, Almost all mountains at 6,5 -7% which is great for a big fuck like TomTom, easy to pace on.
No room for climbers to do their thing.
What?
Climbers had enough stages to make a difference. One day they decided to play weird tactical games. lasr weeks they did not had legs left
Take an honest look at the mountain in this years Giro, 6,5-7% and ALL of the them for some reason go flat the last 4-5 km to the top. so a clear + for a roleur like Tom
Blockhaus, Stelvio were defo not "easy" climbs.
Then almost every climb had up to 12-15% steepness.
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| Dusen |
Posted on 28-05-2017 16:43
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Riis123 wrote:
Dusen wrote:
Shit mountain stages, only reason TomTom wins, Almost all mountains at 6,5 -7% which is great for a big fuck like TomTom, easy to pace on.
No room for climbers to do their thing.
Plenty of stages, but Quintana was under par. Nibali was about as good as you could expect, but Tom was incredible always minimising the damage and even winning on Oropa. That said, many stages could obviously have designed to give a better show, especially that Dolomite stage where they did a pretty pointless loop to Pontives.
Chapeau Tom, the most interesting is now whether Prudhomme sees Dumoulin as Froome's biggest competitor and design a TT-heavy course.
How do you expect the to make a difference on these gradients? The mountains they rode is suited for roleurs. If you are going to have 70 timetrial KM, then climbers need better terrain then what they have been given this Giro |
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| Paul23 |
Posted on 28-05-2017 16:45
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Dusen wrote:
Riis123 wrote:
Dusen wrote:
Shit mountain stages, only reason TomTom wins, Almost all mountains at 6,5 -7% which is great for a big fuck like TomTom, easy to pace on.
No room for climbers to do their thing.
Plenty of stages, but Quintana was under par. Nibali was about as good as you could expect, but Tom was incredible always minimising the damage and even winning on Oropa. That said, many stages could obviously have designed to give a better show, especially that Dolomite stage where they did a pretty pointless loop to Pontives.
Chapeau Tom, the most interesting is now whether Prudhomme sees Dumoulin as Froome's biggest competitor and design a TT-heavy course.
How do you expect the to make a difference on these gradients? The mountains they rode is suited for roleurs. If you are going to have 70 timetrial KM, then climbers need better terrain then what they have been given this Giro
That's total nonsense. Climbs are for rouleurs, when they are peaking at 5-6%, but most climbs peaked at 12-15%.
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| TheManxMissile |
Posted on 28-05-2017 16:45
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deek12345 wrote:
clamel wrote:
Could this be the tightest and perhaps most dramatic GT of all time.
I can't really remember any since the 80s, but then my old memory is slipping fast.
4th place jumping up to the win on the very last stage. Hard to see that happened before.
So glad for Tom D, since he lost the Vuelta last year.....
Cobo 2011 veulta didn't he win by 13 secs or something
2012 Giro, 12" win by Hesjedal. That was more dramatic.
2005 Giro, 28" win by Savoldelli. That was a good one with Basso trying to fight back.
2007 Tour, 23" win by Contador. That was a good final time trial with Evans blowing the race apart.
1989 Tour, 8" win by Lemond. Always an utter classic, yes 80's but my god legendary.
2003 Vuelta, 28" win by Heras. Great final climbing day.
1993 Vuelta, 29" win by Rominger. Drama on the final few stages between Zulle and Rominger.
2017 Giro was a good close one, but there have been better i think
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| Dusen |
Posted on 28-05-2017 16:46
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Paul23 wrote:
Dusen wrote:
Guido Mukk wrote:
Dusen wrote:
Shit mountain stages, only reason TomTom wins, Almost all mountains at 6,5 -7% which is great for a big fuck like TomTom, easy to pace on.
No room for climbers to do their thing.
What?
Climbers had enough stages to make a difference. One day they decided to play weird tactical games. lasr weeks they did not had legs left
Take an honest look at the mountain in this years Giro, 6,5-7% and ALL of the them for some reason go flat the last 4-5 km to the top. so a clear + for a roleur like Tom
Blockhaus, Stelvio were defo not "easy" climbs.
Then almost every climb had up to 12-15% steepness.
And how did Blockhaus go?
12-15 steepness for 500 meters, and then climb ended with 4-5 km flat. |
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Posted on 28-05-2017 16:46
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Jeez what more do you want than Blockhaus and those other beasts they climbed on. Riis said it perfectely about Nibali and Quintana. Maybe Pinot could have made more impact who knows. Not every GT has to be a zoncolan jerkfest where they just grind it out. GTs need diversity!
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