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Vuelta á España 2014
Shonak
Contador a bit pissed about not gaining more time on Froome.
“We didn’t work together at a point when it was vital to try to distance him,” Contador said afterwards. “This was a really good opportunity and even if I did manage to get some time, it could have been more.”
[..]“At the same time, I was watching Valverde and Rodriguez, they’re very fast in the sprints. But Froome is, for me, the strongest rider I’ve ever come across in my career. Between here and Santiago we’ll see how big an opportunity it was that we’ve lost.”

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Quite some praise,

Tomorrow should be brutal, I guess. Five climbs, shit weather(?) and hopefully massive breakaway action. blaster-foren.de/styles/default/xenforo/smilies.blaster/scratchchin.gif
Edited by Shonak on 07-09-2014 18:53
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valverde321
deek12345 wrote:
valverde321 wrote:
deek12345 wrote:
Valverde biggest wheel sucker I've ever seen


Was Valverde not the first GC rider to attack yesterday? Did he not set the pace in that leaders group for a good km (in what ended up being about 7mins)

Im not sure if anyone knows this, but Valverde plain and simple isn't as strong as Contador. After yesterdays stage Im pretty sure he's learned its not a great idea to spend most of his energy early on in the climb.

Once again, people will see it how they want to see it, but just remember that when you have a clear bias against someone, you will look like an idiot when you make remarks that aren't even true.

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Lol at Froome crashing into a Katusha rider on the climb because he was too busy looking at his power meter.

ok maybe i went abit overboard but he really annoyed the hell out of me today somthing shocking .Smile


I just quoted you, but I was talking about everyone calling him a wheelsucker. He's been on the front foot in this race before. Today, especially after yesterday, he's played it safe by not attacking early in the final. Contador has the Red, he is the one that should be predominantly setting the pace if he wants to make a gap to the rest to solidify his lead.
 
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jussike wrote:
I was wondering why Kangert hadn't shown anything except for helping Aru. But apparently he had an infection and had to eat antibiotics for 5 days. Unfortunate timing as he had more or less free hands for this Vuelta


easy man just finished TdF..free hands or not..man has a limit. Even much stronger rider can not take Vuelta and Tdf at the row (except Valverde). Plus he had infection.
 
ruben
Even most riders cannot have the same peak in Giro and Vuelta.
Aru is one of the very few it seems. Even Uran is signifcantly less good in vuelta then in the giro.
Majka last year 7th in giro but only 19th in vuelta. Kelderman this year 7th in giro but only 15th in Vuelta.

2 GT's in a year in same topform is very hard to do.
 
Riis123
ruben wrote:
Even most riders cannot have the same peak in Giro and Vuelta.
Aru is one of the very few it seems. Even Uran is signifcantly less good in vuelta then in the giro.
Majka last year 7th in giro but only 19th in vuelta. Kelderman this year 7th in giro but only 15th in Vuelta.

2 GT's in a year in same topform is very hard to do.


While i agree for the most parts, I think Urán is as good as he was in the Giro, only difference being the competition. On the other hand he has shown the same the 2 previous years where he hasn't been able to do what he does this year. Contador did it in 2008, Rodriguez in 2012 and Quintana did it this year, but at this point we are talking about superstars. Valverde has done the same many times (just TdF and Vuelta), but riders 1 and 2 levels under really do struggle to ride consistent in 2 Grand Tours.
 
ruben
Uran is never as good as in the Giro. In the Giro he was at times able to go with Quintana, even on the Zoncolan in the final week. And he finished ahead of Aru. Here he is already behind Aru and climbing at around the level of Gesink.

So I don't agree
 
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Roextro
lakebeach wrote:
Betancur lanterne rouge Pfft



It is because he is pregnant alright!
 
Riis123
ruben wrote:
Uran is never as good as in the Giro. In the Giro he was at times able to go with Quintana, even on the Zoncolan in the final week. And he finished ahead of Aru. Here he is already behind Aru and climbing at around the level of Gesink.

So I don't agree


He is probably not AS good, but he is pretty damn close. He also had a few not so good days in the Giro though
 
SSJ2Luigi
Riis123 wrote:
SSJ2Luigi wrote:
I can't hate on Froome because of his riding style. personally I don't mind it really and *whispers* I also spend most of my riding time looking at my stem Embarassed except when having hard headwind, then I ride like Horner on a climb :lol:


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nah, I don't have a power meter fetish Pfft nor do I win anything ever
 
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baseballlover312
Maybe the haters can finally pull back a little when they say that Martin is nothing but a puncher. He has solidified today that he is easily the 6th best climber in this race. Really liking the good, consistent riding by him, even after crashing.

Also Barguil snorted way too much coke before the stage. Like 6 attacks. :lol: Really nice riding by him in all honesty.
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Nin1388
valverde321 wrote:
Lol at Froome crashing into a Katusha rider on the climb because he was too busy looking at his power meter.


But he immediately apologised to Moreno that was I think. It was funny I think. When Contador/Valverde/Purito would attack they would get 10 - 15 s immediately and then look at each other. And others Froome, Aru, Moreno, Uran, Martin would slowly climb back to them only to be dropped by next acceleration
 
Nin1388
Shonak wrote:
Contador a bit pissed about not gaining more time on Froome.
“We didn’t work together at a point when it was vital to try to distance him,” Contador said afterwards. “This was a really good opportunity and even if I did manage to get some time, it could have been more.”
[..]“At the same time, I was watching Valverde and Rodriguez, they’re very fast in the sprints. But Froome is, for me, the strongest rider I’ve ever come across in my career. Between here and Santiago we’ll see how big an opportunity it was that we’ve lost.”

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Quite some praise,

Tomorrow should be brutal, I guess. Five climbs, shit weather(?) and hopefully massive breakaway action. blaster-foren.de/styles/default/xenforo/smilies.blaster/scratchchin.gif


Of course he remembers last year's TdF. Froome alone managed to get more than 1m on rider like Contador on each mountain stage. So he must be aware for danger of Froome in full form
 
Avin Wargunnson
deek12345 wrote:
Biggest cowards in the peloton Jrod and Valverde pathetic

this is their usual job, they were just lauging behind Contador, who attacked zillion times. Then they outsprinted him. I like Contador and his crazy style, but he was like lead-out men for those two usual wheelsuckers. Smile
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Avin Wargunnson
admirschleck wrote:
Valverde and Rodriguez played great there. That was basically a win-win situation for them, as Contador had no choice except to pace whole mountain. They both used that at the end.

Why he had no choice? He was 40 seconds in the lead, his only job was to sit on wheel of Valverde till the end...
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dark_x2012
What's wrong with some people on this forum?! Contador did two opposite things yesterday and today and still gets blamed both days Rolling Eyes
Edited by dark_x2012 on 08-09-2014 08:40
 
Strydz
baseballlover312 wrote:
Maybe the haters can finally pull back a little when they say that Martin is nothing but a puncher. He has solidified today that he is easily the 6th best climber in this race. Really liking the good, consistent riding by him, even after crashing.


Martin is a good rider and is doing a excellent job at this race but the way you constantly bang on about him is as bad as some other forum members obsession with Keldermann Rolling Eyes
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TimoCycling
Strydz wrote:
baseballlover312 wrote:
Maybe the haters can finally pull back a little when they say that Martin is nothing but a puncher. He has solidified today that he is easily the 6th best climber in this race. Really liking the good, consistent riding by him, even after crashing.


Martin is a good rider and is doing a excellent job at this race but the way you constantly bang on about him is as bad as some other forum members obsession with Keldermann Rolling Eyes


As bad? I think it's even worse Pfft.
 
admirschleck
Avin Wargunnson wrote:
admirschleck wrote:
Valverde and Rodriguez played great there. That was basically a win-win situation for them, as Contador had no choice except to pace whole mountain. They both used that at the end.

Why he had no choice? He was 40 seconds in the lead, his only job was to sit on wheel of Valverde till the end...


I maybe used the wrong word. Yes he probably could, but why would he? That would mean that Froome would come back to their group or even attack later and I am pretty sure that's one of the main reasons why Contador kept accelerating all the time. At the end, both Rodriguez and Valverde would again gain some time on Pistolero and that would just mean loosing additional time compared to these 3 guys, without any gains.

40 (now 30) seconds and 1'20" is also nothing knowing that you have Valverde, Rodriguez and Froome on another side and 3 more deadly stages until the end. Everything can happen.
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deek12345
From CN ticker
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A remarkable scene near the summit of the day's opening climb. The top three on general classification - Alberto Contador, Alejandro Valverde and Chris Froome - have broken away from the main peloton and have set off in pursuit of the front group.
 
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