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| matt17br |
Posted on 05-10-2014 18:58
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alexkr00 wrote:
SSJ2Luigi wrote:
you mean the days where Freire and Menchov only got results home?  (probably not but that's how I remember the Rabobank days)
You are forgetting the Chicken, Dekker (both), Boogerd, even Gesink and some others
Yeah, but they are all riders that can take a podium but not a win in a big race. Boogerd? The eternal second? 
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| stenic |
Posted on 05-10-2014 19:08
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sutty68 wrote:
That will be a Great move for him and nice to have another Welshman in the Pro peleton 
i've got to admit i was quite surprised by that transfer but good luck to him, always good to see a young British rider join a WT team other than Sky. |
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| rogvi97 |
Posted on 05-10-2014 19:57
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I hope Europcar can get a good next year, even if they're not signing some top cyclists
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| alexkr00 |
Posted on 05-10-2014 21:19
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SSJ2Luigi wrote:
alexkr00 wrote:
SSJ2Luigi wrote:
you mean the days where Freire and Menchov only got results home? (probably not but that's how I remember the Rabobank days)
You are forgetting the Chicken, Dekker (both), Boogerd, even Gesink and some others
PCM06 sure says so too, so it must be true
but aren't you forgetting Flecha?
Yup, great rider. I don't think he got any major wins while riding for Rabo though
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| Wilier |
Posted on 05-10-2014 21:19
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matt17br wrote:
alexkr00 wrote:
SSJ2Luigi wrote:
you mean the days where Freire and Menchov only got results home? (probably not but that's how I remember the Rabobank days)
You are forgetting the Chicken, Dekker (both), Boogerd, even Gesink and some others
Yeah, but they are all riders that can take a podium but not a win in a big race. Boogerd? The eternal second?
I remember that in my older PCM versions Rabobank won heaps of races with different riders, which shows how unrealistic those games were. |
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| TimoCycling |
Posted on 05-10-2014 21:23
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@Riis: Ten Dam has only improved over the years so I don't know what to expect. I expect him to be good in the Tour once again, but all my hopes are aimed at Kelderman for the Tour.
IMO TeamLottoNl has a good team, good enough to stay in the WT. But I would like one good signing though. Only Belgium, Dutch and German riders by the way. I like that. |
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| Paul23 |
Posted on 05-10-2014 22:46
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TimoCycling wrote:
@Riis: Ten Dam has only improved over the years so I don't know what to expect. I expect him to be good in the Tour once again, but all my hopes are aimed at Kelderman for the Tour.
IMO TeamLottoNl has a good team, good enough to stay in the WT. But I would like one good signing though. Only Belgium, Dutch and German riders by the way. I like that.
Count me in on that.
I really like Kelderman, and i hope that he can pull off a Top 5 GT next year. Also i hope, that Gesink wins some races after that hard time of his.
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| Luis Leon Sanchez |
Posted on 05-10-2014 23:01
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LottoNL next season.
My guess:
-Kelderman to lead the Tour.
-Kruiswijk/Gesink to lead Giro.
-Ten Dam to lead Vuelta.
So their only hopes are in the Tour, would be really nice if they could sign a rider who will perform in GT's but doesn't get too many chances to lead, e.g. fuglsang. For a dutch/belgian/german team signing someone like Van den Brouck may not be too bad either. Losing Mollema certainly hurts cause he was definitely their top GC rider. And they need a good cobbler to replace Boom as Vanmarcke's main helper.
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| CountArach |
Posted on 05-10-2014 23:57
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Luis Leon Sanchez wrote:
LottoNL next season.
My guess:
-Kelderman to lead the Tour.
-Kruiswijk/Gesink to lead Giro.
-Ten Dam to lead Vuelta.
So their only hopes are in the Tour, would be really nice if they could sign a rider who will perform in GT's but doesn't get too many chances to lead, e.g. fuglsang. For a dutch/belgian/german team signing someone like Van den Brouck may not be too bad either. Losing Mollema certainly hurts cause he was definitely their top GC rider. And they need a good cobbler to replace Boom as Vanmarcke's main helper.
Van Asbroeck does that and will hopefully be good enough to be a second leader in a couple of years.
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| fidjim2013 |
Posted on 06-10-2014 03:29
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Even if Wilco Kelderman do a GT I don't think he'll do a top 5 his team isn't that strong to help him in the mountain
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| Paul23 |
Posted on 06-10-2014 12:45
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fidjim2013 wrote:
Even if Wilco Kelderman do a GT I don't think he'll do a top 5 his team isn't that strong to help him in the mountain
He doesn't need more than Ten Dam or Gesink...his team won't do the major pulls, so he just needs someone if he gets dropped.
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| matt17br |
Posted on 06-10-2014 13:18
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Wilier wrote:
matt17br wrote:
alexkr00 wrote:
SSJ2Luigi wrote:
you mean the days where Freire and Menchov only got results home? (probably not but that's how I remember the Rabobank days)
You are forgetting the Chicken, Dekker (both), Boogerd, even Gesink and some others
Yeah, but they are all riders that can take a podium but not a win in a big race. Boogerd? The eternal second?
I remember that in my older PCM versions Rabobank won heaps of races with different riders, which shows how unrealistic those games still are.
Are you sure?
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| cio93 |
Posted on 06-10-2014 15:30
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Carter Jones joins Craddock and Haga at Giant for two years.
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| alexkr00 |
Posted on 06-10-2014 16:00
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Luis Leon Sanchez wrote:
LottoNL next season.
My guess:
-Kelderman to lead the Tour.
-Kruiswijk/Gesink to lead Giro.
-Ten Dam to lead Vuelta.
So their only hopes are in the Tour, would be really nice if they could sign a rider who will perform in GT's but doesn't get too many chances to lead, e.g. fuglsang. For a dutch/belgian/german team signing someone like Van den Brouck may not be too bad either. Losing Mollema certainly hurts cause he was definitely their top GC rider. And they need a good cobbler to replace Boom as Vanmarcke's main helper.
I doubt Gesink will go again to the Giro. He tends to suffer in bad weather and you have more rainy days in Giro day in any other GT.
I think he will join Kelderman at the Tour and to be honest I see him doing better than Kelderman.
For the Vuelta, the leader will probably be whoever fails at the Tour.
As for, Fuglsang and Van den Broeck, they are worse than Gesink and Kelderman so I doubt they would be an improvement.
My guess the budget is significantly smaller than Belkin's or Rabobank's so that's why they won't have a very impressive roster next season.
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| fidjim2013 |
Posted on 06-10-2014 16:17
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I really don't think jakob Fuglsang is worst but let's not forget that most of the time he needs to work for its leader nibali |
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| alexkr00 |
Posted on 06-10-2014 17:21
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fidjim2013 wrote:
I really don't think jakob Fuglsang is worst but let's not forget that most of the time he needs to work for its leader nibali
Well, he's almost 30 and only has one GT top 10 in his career. That's not exactly good pedigree for a stage racer.
As you said, he wasn't always the leader, but, I think, that if he had felt that he was strong enough to be the absolute leader in a team, he could have found a team that would allow him to be one.
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| Dusen |
Posted on 06-10-2014 17:26
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alexkr00 wrote:
fidjim2013 wrote:
I really don't think jakob Fuglsang is worst but let's not forget that most of the time he needs to work for its leader nibali
Well, he's almost 30 and only has one GT top 10 in his career. That's not exactly good pedigree for a stage racer.
As you said, he wasn't always the leader, but, I think, that if he had felt that he was strong enough to be the absolute leader in a team, he could have found a team that would allow him to be one.
Money is important when you are in your best years (28-32/33)
Perhaps he did have offers from smaller WT teams or PCT but if they offered less money then Astana.
It would be lovely if all cyclist just road to win, but someone have to be domestique and surely we can all understand that riders are trying to earn for the rest of their living in their 10-16 years in the world of cycling. |
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| fidjim2013 |
Posted on 06-10-2014 19:55
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Dusen wrote:
alexkr00 wrote:
fidjim2013 wrote:
I really don't think jakob Fuglsang is worst but let's not forget that most of the time he needs to work for its leader nibali
Well, he's almost 30 and only has one GT top 10 in his career. That's not exactly good pedigree for a stage racer.
As you said, he wasn't always the leader, but, I think, that if he had felt that he was strong enough to be the absolute leader in a team, he could have found a team that would allow him to be one.
Money is important when you are in your best years (28-32/33)
Perhaps he did have offers from smaller WT teams or PCT but if they offered less money then Astana.
It would be lovely if all cyclist just road to win, but someone have to be domestique and surely we can all understand that riders are trying to earn for the rest of their living in their 10-16 years in the world of cycling.
You are right money is important when you're in your prime |
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| fidjim2013 |
Posted on 06-10-2014 22:36
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I can't wait to see team sky next year, all for Chris froome |
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| Naskela |
Posted on 06-10-2014 23:54
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fidjim2013 wrote:
Dusen wrote:
alexkr00 wrote:
fidjim2013 wrote:
I really don't think jakob Fuglsang is worst but let's not forget that most of the time he needs to work for its leader nibali
Well, he's almost 30 and only has one GT top 10 in his career. That's not exactly good pedigree for a stage racer.
As you said, he wasn't always the leader, but, I think, that if he had felt that he was strong enough to be the absolute leader in a team, he could have found a team that would allow him to be one.
Money is important when you are in your best years (28-32/33)
Perhaps he did have offers from smaller WT teams or PCT but if they offered less money then Astana.
It would be lovely if all cyclist just road to win, but someone have to be domestique and surely we can all understand that riders are trying to earn for the rest of their living in their 10-16 years in the world of cycling.
You are right money is important when you're in your prime
A professional cyclist make the same amount of money during a career as a player in the premier league make in a month so i feel they have the right to be greedy if i knew i would never win one of the big races i rather be in a team riding for someone else making good salary rather than goes to a small team getting that fifth place for half the salary... I remember there were many on here criticized Geraint for signing a new contract with Sky this summer 
And back to the topic: Petacchi and Pozzato rumored to Neri Sottoli, not sure what i feel about that 
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