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Ybodonk
Kentaurus wrote:
So I will say I noticed that after the TTs, Phinney laying on the ground, Martin laying on the ground, Cancellara laying on the ground. I didn't see what Rodgers did after, Froome looked comfortable, and Wiggens leans on his bike, and eventually decides to go rest against a barricade.

Not saying I know anything, but anyone that argues Lance did something wrong, has to also start arguing that there is something going on at team Sky.


Pay closely attention to these observations.
Dont need to say more Wink
 
solano
Except that it doesn't necessarily mean anything. Look at athletics; the winner immediately goes off on a lap of honour whilst the others often slump to the floor. Often that's due to disappointment, not because it was harder for them than for the winner.
 
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Schleck96
solano wrote:
Except that it doesn't necessarily mean anything. Look at athletics; the winner immediately goes off on a lap of honour whilst the others often slump to the floor. Often that's due to disappointment, not because it was harder for them than for the winner.


Except that Froome wasn't the Winner Wink
 
9-Ball
Maybe Team Sky needs to hire a good acting director to encourage and direct Zroom and Wiggins to show adequate levels of exhaustion following races?
It was eleven more than necessary.
Jacques Anquetil
 
Ybodonk
Schleck96 wrote:
solano wrote:
Except that it doesn't necessarily mean anything. Look at athletics; the winner immediately goes off on a lap of honour whilst the others often slump to the floor. Often that's due to disappointment, not because it was harder for them than for the winner.


Except that Froome wasn't the Winner Wink


Very good point and another good observation Schleck96.

@Solano , no one can argue against that T.Martin, Cancellara, Phinney and Co. all are top notch athlete. They all have extreme conditioning and physics. They belong to the elite. It is very very suspicious and eye-brows raising that the only riders not being totally crushed are the Sky riders.

So it does look suspicious that everybody is completely dead, and still are being crushed by Team Sky.
 
TheManxMissile
Ybodonk wrote:
Schleck96 wrote:
solano wrote:
Except that it doesn't necessarily mean anything. Look at athletics; the winner immediately goes off on a lap of honour whilst the others often slump to the floor. Often that's due to disappointment, not because it was harder for them than for the winner.


Except that Froome wasn't the Winner Wink


Very good point and another good observation Schleck96.

@Solano , no one can argue against that T.Martin, Cancellara, Phinney and Co. all are top notch athlete. They all have extreme conditioning and physics. They belong to the elite. It is very very suspicious and eye-brows raising that the only riders not being totally crushed are the Sky riders.

So it does look suspicious that everybody is completely dead, and still are being crushed by Team Sky.


Got to say, brads looked like he put in massive effort to me

I think that Solano made an excellent point, and is relevent.
Froome did not win, but his team mate did, and that creates happyness.
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wackojackohighcliffe
TheManxMissile wrote:
Ybodonk wrote:
Schleck96 wrote:
solano wrote:
Except that it doesn't necessarily mean anything. Look at athletics; the winner immediately goes off on a lap of honour whilst the others often slump to the floor. Often that's due to disappointment, not because it was harder for them than for the winner.


Except that Froome wasn't the Winner Wink


Very good point and another good observation Schleck96.

@Solano , no one can argue against that T.Martin, Cancellara, Phinney and Co. all are top notch athlete. They all have extreme conditioning and physics. They belong to the elite. It is very very suspicious and eye-brows raising that the only riders not being totally crushed are the Sky riders.

So it does look suspicious that everybody is completely dead, and still are being crushed by Team Sky.


Got to say, brads looked like he put in massive effort to me

I think that Solano made an excellent point, and is relevent.
Froome did not win, but his team mate did, and that creates happyness.


Well, Froome has never seemed entirely at ease with Wiggins...
 
scottcager
Ybodonk wrote:
Kentaurus wrote:
So I will say I noticed that after the TTs, Phinney laying on the ground, Martin laying on the ground, Cancellara laying on the ground. I didn't see what Rodgers did after, Froome looked comfortable, and Wiggens leans on his bike, and eventually decides to go rest against a barricade.

Not saying I know anything, but anyone that argues Lance did something wrong, has to also start arguing that there is something going on at team Sky.


Pay closely attention to these observations.
Dont need to say more Wink



Yes you do need to say more, Cancellara crashed in the RR and messed up his shoulder, This was one of the longest TT's Phinney has ever done and Martin has been carrying various injures most of the year.
I'm not saying Sky dont dope, just try to get the facts right first before assuming anything.
 
baseballlover312
How obsene is this quote from the newest Sports Illustrated in an article about Lance Armstrong (They finally decide to move against him).

"Last month's Tour de France victory by Bradley Wiggins, long outspoken critic of of dopers in his sport, very much had the feel of triumph for clean cycling, as well."

:lol:
RIP Exxon Duke, David Veilleux, Double Feature, and Monster Energy
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kumazan
Not as obscene as:

Per me questa medaglia è la rivincita del ciclismo pulito. Spero di essere un esempio per tutti i giovani, dimostro che si ottengono risultati con il sacrificio e con tanto allenamento e non con il doping
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For me this medal is a revenge of clean cycling. I hope to be an example for the youth, I show that you can get results with sacrifice and training, and not with doping


~ Davide Rebellin, after the 2008 Olympic Road race
 
Aquarius
"Rebellin can't be doping because he speaks so much against doping. That I'm sure of." Shock

"Wiggins can't be doping because he speaks so much against doping. That I'm sure of." Shock

Oh wait...
 
ste_18
Aquarius wrote:
"Rebellin can't be doping because he speaks so much against doping. That I'm sure of." Shock

"Wiggins can't be doping because he speaks so much against doping. That I'm sure of." Shock

Oh wait...


+100
:lol:
 
Gaffeff
When US postal (I'm in need of a history lesson) where around where they always strong at every race. Because Sky (well Froome) are looking abit fried at the moment and they weren't that good at the classics, I remember watching Cavendish being fried in the MSR. Is this mitigation, that they only massively dominated the tour and a few warm up races. (Cadel Evans won the Adriatico and 2nd in the Dauphine).
 
baseballlover312
Nibali won Adriatico.
RIP Exxon Duke, David Veilleux, Double Feature, and Monster Energy
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Jupi
It's funny that Froome looks absolutely wasted, yet his power output until now matches his Tour performance on 25 minute climbs (Peyresourde twice in the TdF vs Gallina and Ancares in the Vuelta). He didn't get weaker, his rivals are simply stronger than the best climbers in the Tour
 
baggieboys32
baseballlover312 wrote:
Nibali won Adriatico.


He means the year before when Cadel also won Le Tour (I believe)
 
TheManxMissile
baggieboys32 wrote:
baseballlover312 wrote:
Nibali won Adriatico.


He means the year before when Cadel also won Le Tour (I believe)


no, last year sky didnt dominate any race...

USPostal hardly dominated every race. Dont forget there was not ProTour back then so they just raced easier races, and those specific to TDF warm up
If Sky could pick and choose all races, we would see similar
In fact that goes for all top WT teams (BMC, Katusha etc.)
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Aquarius
Jupi wrote:
It's funny that Froome looks absolutely wasted, yet his power output until now matches his Tour performance on 25 minute climbs (Peyresourde twice in the TdF vs Gallina and Ancares in the Vuelta). He didn't get weaker, his rivals are simply stronger than the best climbers in the Tour

https://twitter.c...5761898496

Seems Twitter links don't work, but this quote illustrates quite well :
@fredgrappe wrote:
What's one done to Valverde ? Is this his clone ? It's not the same one that during Tour de France ? Wow...

Welcome to the land of wonders and miracles...
 
Avin Wargunnson
Aquarius wrote:
Jupi wrote:
It's funny that Froome looks absolutely wasted, yet his power output until now matches his Tour performance on 25 minute climbs (Peyresourde twice in the TdF vs Gallina and Ancares in the Vuelta). He didn't get weaker, his rivals are simply stronger than the best climbers in the Tour

https://twitter.c...5761898496

Seems Twitter links don't work, but this quote illustrates quite well :
@fredgrappe wrote:
What's one done to Valverde ? Is this his clone ? It's not the same one that during Tour de France ? Wow...

Welcome to the land of wonders and miracles...

Actually is there someone on believable level of performance? I think it is Conta, who looks maybe even bit worse than he was few years back (same style, just not so effective). Meanwhile Purito, Valverde and Froome are riding like the aliens, compared to their history (well Valverde matches the hstory, the dirty one).
Edited by Avin Wargunnson on 02-09-2012 06:38
I'll be back
 
Jupi
Looking at the GC top 10, the best placed guy who seems legit is Gesink, though I have no idea how much his leg is bothering him.
 
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