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| issoisso |
Posted on 08-04-2013 22:21
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That and the jamaican authorities stopped dope testing because the budget was cut.
"Coincidentally" that's when all those sprinters showed up.
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"I love him, I think he's great. He's transformed the sport in so many ways. Every person in cycling has benefitted from Lance Armstrong, perhaps not financially but in some sense" - Bradley Wiggins on Lance Armstrong
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| CountArach |
Posted on 09-04-2013 01:19
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ShortsNL wrote:
I was going to make a silly and slightly inappropriate joke, saying 'also, black people run faster', but I just googled and came up with something actually relevant:
https://mintinfo.h...un-So-Fast
That of course assumes that one nation's people can be more determined than another. It reminds me of all the fanboys here and and elsewhere that say X team is better because they train harder. As if all the other teams just don't want to win enough.
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| CrueTrue |
Posted on 09-04-2013 07:32
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Aquarius wrote:
The current trend would be to use Aicar, which is not even commercialised yet. It's known to most, but it burns fat in great quantities, and improves your endurance without a need to practice.
So where can I buy this AICAR stuff?  |
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| Aquarius |
Posted on 09-04-2013 11:43
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In China only, apparently, with all the risks it may imply. |
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| Avin Wargunnson |
Posted on 09-04-2013 11:47
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Aquarius wrote:
In China only, apparently, with all the risks it may imply.
Who cares, when you can win Tour with it.
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| ppanther |
Posted on 09-04-2013 11:57
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Aquarius wrote:
In China only, apparently, with all the risks it may imply.
After some research i really think its not that difficult to get, which, to be honest, shocked me a little bit. Just search some bodybuilding websites, where many are experimenting with AICAR and GW501516 and you get many links to buy it, even from US settled companies...
And if you spin this further, how easy would it be for a professional team...
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| Aquarius |
Posted on 09-04-2013 12:00
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How expensive is it ? I have some competitions soon. 
Let's imagine a rider who'd be heavy but with a very high VO2 max. Give him AICAR and he'll gain endurance, which would make him able to use a significant percentage of his high VO2 max for a long while.
Give him Aicar and he'll lose truckloads of weight, to the immense benefit of his W/kg ratio, thus making him a worthy climber.
Add some top notch doctor(s) to his staff and he'll never test positive.
Add some competent trainers, researchers, etc. to his team and he'll get small margins here and there.
More than enough of an edge to win Grand Tours.
This example is purely hypothetical though, I'm not saying this has ever happened.
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| Spilak23 |
Posted on 09-04-2013 12:02
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Aquarius wrote:
How expensive is it ? I have some competitions soon.
Just read on a dutch body builders forum: 350 euro's a day. The posts are from September 2011 though, it is probably cheaper by now.
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| ppanther |
Posted on 09-04-2013 12:03
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Aquarius wrote:
How expensive is it ? I have some competitions soon.
Lol, 50mg for ca. 30$, but the bodybuilding guys usually take 20mg per day, so it could get rather expensive...  |
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| Spilak23 |
Posted on 09-04-2013 12:08
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Also read you get a discount when buying AICAR together with GW1516.
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| roturn |
Posted on 09-04-2013 12:09
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Aquarius wrote:
How expensive is it ? I have some competitions soon.
Let's imagine a rider who'd be heavy but with a very high VO2 max. Give him AICAR and he'll gain endurance, which would make him able to use a significant percentage of his high VO2 max for a long while.
Give him Aicar and he'll lose truckloads of weight, to the immense benefit of his W/kg ratio, thus making him a worthy climber.
Add some top notch doctor(s) to his staff and he'll never test positive.
Add some competent trainers, researchers, etc. to his team and he'll get small margins here and there.
More than enough of an edge to win Grand Tours.
This example is purely hypothetical though, I'm not saying this has ever happened.
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| ppanther |
Posted on 09-04-2013 12:09
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Spilak23 wrote:
Also read you get a discount when buying AICAR together with GW1516.
Many in these forums also take it together. |
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| ppanther |
Posted on 09-04-2013 12:10
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Aquarius wrote:
How expensive is it ? I have some competitions soon.
Let's imagine a rider who'd be heavy but with a very high VO2 max. Give him AICAR and he'll gain endurance, which would make him able to use a significant percentage of his high VO2 max for a long while.
Give him Aicar and he'll lose truckloads of weight, to the immense benefit of his W/kg ratio, thus making him a worthy climber.
Add some top notch doctor(s) to his staff and he'll never test positive.
Add some competent trainers, researchers, etc. to his team and he'll get small margins here and there.
More than enough of an edge to win Grand Tours.
This example is purely hypothetical though, I'm not saying this has ever happened.
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| Aquarius |
Posted on 09-04-2013 12:11
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Yes, they go on pair. Recently WADA has issued a statement warning sportsmen about a dangerous form of GW1516 though.
What kind of weird diseases or cancers are sportsmen going to have within a dozen of years ? |
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| ppanther |
Posted on 09-04-2013 12:21
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Some "reviews":
"It is great stuff guys. Ive been using it for about 2 1/2 weeks and love it. Sheds fat off first and foremost, but recovery has been incredible. Fat loss for me kicked in about right at the 2 week mark, and it is noticeable. Recovery has been an amazing benefit. I would rank this as one of, if not, the best products Ive used."
"I've been running it for a few weeks. It is my favorite suplement for the money. I never get sore no matter how hard I train. My body fat has dropped a lot. It makes dieting real easy by limiting my appetite. I dropped all hgh and I'm healing faster on GW-501516."
"A friend who gave this to me got down to A RIPPED 5% and yes his diet and traing of course was on point but he knows his gears and is crediting this in large part and just to be clear he is not selling this to me."
I wonder which weird diseases these guys will get. Just experimenting around with drugs. Sick. |
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| Ian Butler |
Posted on 09-04-2013 12:23
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This is so concerning... They seem actually happy taking this crap and doing all weird kind of chemical things. Where are we going to? |
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| ppanther |
Posted on 09-04-2013 12:25
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Other question: What is AICAR for? I mean every drug is developed for some medical value. So what AICAR does cure or which disease is it for?
The only thing i have found is, that it could be used at heatstrokes.
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| Spilak23 |
Posted on 09-04-2013 12:32
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Aquarius wrote:
What kind of weird diseases or cancers are sportsmen going to have within a dozen of years ?
Is it much worse then sniffing a couple lines of Coke while going out over the weekend?
The consequences I mean.
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| ppanther |
Posted on 09-04-2013 12:34
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Spilak23 wrote:
Aquarius wrote:
What kind of weird diseases or cancers are sportsmen going to have within a dozen of years ?
Is it much worse then sniffing a couple lines of Coke while going out over the weekend?
The consequences I mean.
I think the problem is, we don't know. It's so new, that nobody can answer which side effects it will have in long term use. |
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| Spilak23 |
Posted on 09-04-2013 12:40
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ppanther wrote:
Other question: What is AICAR for? I mean every drug is developed for some medical value. So what AICAR does cure or which disease is it for?
The only thing i have found is, that it could be used at heatstrokes.
"AICAR imroves the conditions of heart cells during oxygen shortage."
Read something about helping the AMPK molecules for diabetes patients aswel.
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