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Armstrong stops fighting doping charges - USADA wants him banned and stripped for titles
jseadog1
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Will Lance Armstrong be stripped of wins :lol:

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CLURPR
Most annoying thing out of all of this is now his appearance in 'Dodgeball' based on his comeback is now invalid. Way to ruin a great film!
 
tonymcf
Koener wrote:

İ didn't want ot insult anybody, but maybe WADA.
Pointing out (the obvious) that in those days, the few riders who were clean were outside the time limit (like the entire Lotto team on Alpe D'Huez, and sayings are they 'learned' from that experience)

ı just find it strange Armstrong is criminalized and spit out by everyone while he was defenitly the best (wheter it is cycling, doping yourself or the perfect combination of those).

Ok maybe i wouldn't rob a bank either.
But the tour is....magical


Fair enoughWink
Edited by tonymcf on 24-08-2012 16:21
 
ste_18
jseadog1 wrote:
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Will Lance Armstrong be stripped of wins :lol:


That's a good idea:lol:
 
Koener
So doped riders get bans.
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Teamleaders ?
Riis, Bruyneel, Vaughters can just tell young riders
DO AS YOUR TOLD, NOT AS I DID
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CountArach
Koener wrote:
So doped riders get bans.
?
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Teamleaders ?
Riis, Bruyneel, Vaughters can just tell young riders
DO AS YOUR TOLD, NOT AS I DID
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Most people who dislike Armstrong also dislike Riis and Bruyneel for what they did. Riis at least admitted it well after he did it, and Vaughters has come out and publicly said that he did so. Armstrong has made no such statement.
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Free Armstrong! YOLO Cool
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jseadog1
ste_18 wrote:
jseadog1 wrote:
make a new bet on PCM.daily Smile

Will Lance Armstrong be stripped of wins :lol:


That's a good idea:lol:


Even though I would go all-in on "no", I would lose my money Sad

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CLURPR wrote:
Most annoying thing out of all of this is now his appearance in 'Dodgeball' based on his comeback is now invalid. Way to ruin a great film!


Ugh I know that was like the first thing I thought of after I read issoisso's post for the first time... "that" post Pfft
 
jseadog1
pcm2009fan wrote:
CLURPR wrote:
Most annoying thing out of all of this is now his appearance in 'Dodgeball' based on his comeback is now invalid. Way to ruin a great film!


Ugh I know that was like the first thing I thought of after I read issoisso's post for the first time... "that" post Pfft


One of my favorite all time films

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dinger
Its all bullshit. You cant take away whats already been done
 
pcm2009fan
Lol. So if someone murders someone, they shouldn't be brought to justice for it after the crime?
 
baseballlover312
You can, but you can't make believe the murder didn't happen.
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dienblad
Don't know if it is said before, but can USADA take away the Tour-wins, or is only the UCI or ASo allowed to do so?
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pcm2009fan
baseballlover312 wrote:
You can, but you can't make believe the murder didn't happen.


So what's the point? That we should pretend it didn't and forget about penalising it?
 
Aquarius
npass43 wrote:
He may have cheated, but he may have been the best cyclist in the world.

No, he was the best general classification rider during the Tour de France held during his era.
Would you say Wiggins is better than Cavendish, or Ullrich was better than Zabel ? It's different. Would you say Gilbert 2011 was better than, say, Evans ? Hard to tell. Cycling is not all about Tour de France general classification.

9-Ball wrote:
Guido Mukk wrote:
Hah Jan as 4 time tour winner..ironic heh?


I wonder if Raymond Poulidor has his hopes up, today.

Given he's admitted he used stimulating substances (read : amphetamines) during his career, I guess he definitely shouldn't get his hopes too high. Pfft

baseballlover312 wrote:
I totally agree. Anyone from 92-2006 should just be gone. Those tourse never existed.

1992 - 2006 ?
The likes of Delion, Mottet, Bassons, Moncoutié, and probably many others that I don't know, would surely be glad to be stripped of their wins or various achievements during that period. Frown

dienblad wrote:
Don't know if it is said before, but can USADA take away the Tour-wins, or is only the UCI or ASo allowed to do so?

Only UCI, actually. No idea what ASO can do there.
Edited by Aquarius on 24-08-2012 17:39
 
Lachi
BTW, there are worse things than doping. Paralympic athletes harm themselves to perform better: https://www.bbc.co...t-19325756
 
CLURPR
Says on the BBC website that he actually been stripped of his titles now though?
 
JuanMotr
You know what would be really retarded?
If Ulrich doped and they gave him those wins.
 
Aquarius
CLURPR wrote:
Says on the BBC website that he actually been stripped of his titles now though?

I very much doubt so. It seems unavoidable now, but there's paperwork to do, and UCI have already issued a statement saying they're waiting for informations from USADA before they do anything. Then, knowing how reluctant they must be to do anything against anyone (and Lance Armstrong in particular), I think this should take a few days at best, and that a few months are likely.
 
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