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Tour de France 2012 - FULL GUIDE COMPLETE!!!
Vien
johnnyjur wrote:
Orica - GreenEDGE for TdF:

Baden Cooke
Brett Lancaster
Daryl Impey
Matt Goss
Michael Albasini
Pieter Weening
Sebastian Langeveld
Simon Gerrans
Stuart O’Grady


No surprises there. I think Gerrans just isn't good enough to win stages, perhaps in an early attack. Goss might surprise though.
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Squire
Vien wrote:
johnnyjur wrote:
Orica - GreenEDGE for TdF:

Baden Cooke
Brett Lancaster
Daryl Impey
Matt Goss
Michael Albasini
Pieter Weening
Sebastian Langeveld
Simon Gerrans
Stuart O’Grady


No surprises there. I think Gerrans just isn't good enough to win stages, perhaps in an early attack. Goss might surprise though.


He's good enough to win MSR but not a stage in the Tour de France?
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Vien
Squire wrote:
Vien wrote:
johnnyjur wrote:
Orica - GreenEDGE for TdF:

Baden Cooke
Brett Lancaster
Daryl Impey
Matt Goss
Michael Albasini
Pieter Weening
Sebastian Langeveld
Simon Gerrans
Stuart O’Grady


No surprises there. I think Gerrans just isn't good enough to win stages, perhaps in an early attack. Goss might surprise though.


He's good enough to win MSR but not a stage in the Tour de France?


MSR is a totally different race, on a totally different date.
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Avin Wargunnson
Vien wrote:
Squire wrote:
Vien wrote:
johnnyjur wrote:
Orica - GreenEDGE for TdF:

Baden Cooke
Brett Lancaster
Daryl Impey
Matt Goss
Michael Albasini
Pieter Weening
Sebastian Langeveld
Simon Gerrans
Stuart O’Grady


No surprises there. I think Gerrans just isn't good enough to win stages, perhaps in an early attack. Goss might surprise though.


He's good enough to win MSR but not a stage in the Tour de France?


MSR is a totally different race, on a totally different date.

If he is or not, they still have Wenning,Albasini and few more who can Smile
I'll be back
 
Eden95
And Weening rode pretty well in the Dauphine as well.
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Vien
Cofidis: Moncoutie, Taaramae, Di Gregorio, Samuel Dumoulin, Nicolas Edet, Julien Fouchard, Romain Zingle, Jan Ghyselinck and Luis-Angel Mate.

Taaramae for white jersey? He's the only young rider who's a leader (Poels said he's hunting stages).
Edited by Vien on 25-06-2012 11:24
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Riis123
Apart from the first 4 riders Cofidis is pretty weak this year. I think Taaramäe can win the white jersey, as well as Moncoutie can win the polka dot. I think they will be happy with just one of those. Dumoulin and Gregorio are good riders who can hunt stages - the rest of the team...
 
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Vien wrote:
johnnyjur wrote:
Orica - GreenEDGE for TdF:

Baden Cooke
Brett Lancaster
Daryl Impey
Matt Goss
Michael Albasini
Pieter Weening
Sebastian Langeveld
Simon Gerrans
Stuart O’Grady


No surprises there. I think Gerrans just isn't good enough to win stages, perhaps in an early attack. Goss might surprise though.

3-time GT Stage Winner, I think he has what it takes no doubt. I see Goss and Weening winning stages though maybe...
 
Spilak23
Teddy The Creator wrote:
Vien wrote:
johnnyjur wrote:
Orica - GreenEDGE for TdF:

Baden Cooke
Brett Lancaster
Daryl Impey
Matt Goss
Michael Albasini
Pieter Weening
Sebastian Langeveld
Simon Gerrans
Stuart O’Grady



No surprises there. I think Gerrans just isn't good enough to win stages, perhaps in an early attack. Goss might surprise though.

3-time GT Stage Winner, I think he has what it takes no doubt. I see Goss and Weening winning stages though maybe...



Albasini is one of the best stage hunters in the whole peloton.. Especially for not so tough mountain stages like there are some this year..
Edited by Spilak23 on 25-06-2012 12:07
 
depeche92
Europcar
Thomas Voeckler
Pierre Rolland
Christophe Kern
Cyril Gautier
Yukiya Arashiro
Giovanni Bernaudeau
Yohann Gène
Vincent Jérôme
Davide Malacarne

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Ian Butler
depeche92 wrote:
Europcar
Thomas Voeckler
Pierre Rolland
Christophe Kern
Cyril Gautier
Yukiya Arashiro
Giovanni Bernaudeau
Yohann Gène
Vincent Jérôme
Davide Malacarne

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So Voeckler will be starting after all. He won't be as good in the first stages, probably. But knowing Voeckler, he can always do something.
I hope Rolland can get a top 20.
 
Dalin
Cofidis, le crédit en ligne

Rémy Di Gregorio
Samuel Dumoulin
Julien Fouchard
Jan Ghyselinck
Nicolas Edet
Luis Angel Maté Mardones
David Moncoutié
Rein Taaramae
Romain Zingle

Saur – Sojasun

Jérôme Coppel
Anthony Delaplace
Jimmy Engoulvent
Fabrice Jeandesboz
Julien Simon
Jean-Marc Marino
Brice Feillu
Cyril Lemoine
Guillaume Levarlet
 
Riis123
Does anyone know when Movistar and Liquigas decides to publish their teams? It's pretty interestesting in order to help Nibali and Valverde animate the race. As far as i know, the only ones who are sure to make the Tour is Rui Costa and Valverde from Movistar and Basso (nice), Nibali and Sagan from Liquigas.
Edited by Riis123 on 25-06-2012 15:28
 
usto
Movistar Team:
Alejandro Valverde
Juanjo Cobo
Rui Costa
Jose Joaquin Rojas
Imanol Erviti
Ruben Plaza
Vladimir Karpets
Jose Ivan Gutierrez
Vasil Kiryienka

Seems that they have heard you Riis
Edited by usto on 25-06-2012 15:36
 
depeche92
Riis123 wrote:
Does anyone know when Movistar and Liquigas decides to publish their teams? It's pretty interestesting in order to help Nibali and Valverde animate the race. As far as i know, the only ones who are sure to make the Tour is Rui Costa and Valverde from Movistar and Basso (nice), Nibali and Sagan from Liquigas.


Liquigas : Basso,Canuti,Koren,Nibali,Oss,Sagan,Szmyd,Vanotti all sure.
Last spot is between Nerz and Paterski
 
Riis123
usto wrote:
Movistar Team:
Alejandro Valverde
Juanjo Cobo
Rui Costa
Jose Joaquin Rojas
Imanol Erviti
Ruben Plaza
Vladimir Karpets
Jose Ivan Gutierrez
Vasil Kiryienka

Seems that they have heard you Riis


Okay, cool. Some pretty good domestiques and some good climbers as Cobo, Costa and Valverde who can light it up if they are fit. And i am not forgetting about the possible green jersey, Rojas. Definetely a strong team.

- I was hoping for Moreno Moser, but okay. I like that fact they brings both Szmyd and Basso, even tough they have raced the Giro. It shows how much they believe in Nibali. I hope the too of them are in good shape. And i hope for Nerz in the last spot.
 
Aquarius
Ian Butler wrote:
depeche92 wrote:
Europcar
Thomas Voeckler
Pierre Rolland
Christophe Kern
Cyril Gautier
Yukiya Arashiro
Giovanni Bernaudeau
Yohann Gène
Vincent Jérôme
Davide Malacarne

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So Voeckler will be starting after all. He won't be as good in the first stages, probably. But knowing Voeckler, he can always do something.
I hope Rolland can get a top 20.

I might be wrong, but to me it looks like the sponsors are pushing to have Voeckler in, when he's too injured to ride. I wouldn't be surprised if he abandoned somewhere in the middle of the first week.
Or maybe he'll just be more fresh in the last week, who knows. I can't see him as a serious contender this year, whatsoever.
 
Vien
Europcar will disappoint. Rolland is okay but no one will let him go again. And he'll lose about 8 minutes in the time trials alone.

What I'm worried about is what the sprinters will do. Some of them (Kittel, for example) may not make the time limit, and riders like Freire may abandon because of the Olympics. Hope the mass sprints won't get too boring after the first week.

Edit: Cyclingnews says Rolland can still get the white jersey Frown
Edited by Vien on 25-06-2012 17:33
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Spilak23
Vien wrote:
Europcar will disappoint. Rolland is okay but no one will let him go again. And he'll lose about 8 minutes in the time trials alone.

What I'm worried about is what the sprinters will do. Some of them (Kittel, for example) may not make the time limit, and riders like Freire may abandon because of the Olympics. Hope the mass sprints won't get too boring after the first week.


I don't see how mass sprints can be boring. What's the difference between a mass sprint in let's say the Tour of Langkawi and the Tour? They are both very exciting, just the level of competition differs...
 
kumazan
Spilak23 wrote:
Vien wrote:
Europcar will disappoint. Rolland is okay but no one will let him go again. And he'll lose about 8 minutes in the time trials alone.

What I'm worried about is what the sprinters will do. Some of them (Kittel, for example) may not make the time limit, and riders like Freire may abandon because of the Olympics. Hope the mass sprints won't get too boring after the first week.


I don't see how mass sprints can be boring. What's the difference between a mass sprint in let's say the Tour of Langkawi and the Tour? They are both very exciting, just the level of competition differs...


Mass sprints are very exciting, the problem are the dull 5h which precede them.
 
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