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Dizzle
tastasol wrote:
Must say, the entire process here was so much better than with Contador. Suspended right away, and no racing, even though he was cleared by the Russians.

I assume he was free to ride the whole time, but can't really find anything about it.
Edited by Dizzle on 29-02-2012 18:10
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tastasol
SportingNonsense wrote:
Alakagom wrote:
Kolobnev cleared to ride by the CAS, arbitration court rejects almost all of the UCI appeal, so free to ride again. I guess Saxo is a good place for him.


Surely it will be Katusha?


The Katusha squad is completed for the year. So they would have to take "a Astana".
Edit: Think Saxo will be a "natural" place for him. Rode there some years ago, and Riis is desperate.
Edited by tastasol on 29-02-2012 18:17
 
SportingNonsense
tastasol wrote:
SportingNonsense wrote:
Alakagom wrote:
Kolobnev cleared to ride by the CAS, arbitration court rejects almost all of the UCI appeal, so free to ride again. I guess Saxo is a good place for him.


Surely it will be Katusha?


The Katusha squad is completed for the year. So they would have to take "a Astana".
Edit: Think Saxo will be a "natural" place for him. Rode there some years ago, and Riis is desperate.


CQ suggests Katusha has 29 riders - and the maximum squad size is 30. A Kolobnev sized gap?
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tastasol
SportingNonsense wrote:
tastasol wrote:
SportingNonsense wrote:
Alakagom wrote:
Kolobnev cleared to ride by the CAS, arbitration court rejects almost all of the UCI appeal, so free to ride again. I guess Saxo is a good place for him.


Surely it will be Katusha?


The Katusha squad is completed for the year. So they would have to take "a Astana".
Edit: Think Saxo will be a "natural" place for him. Rode there some years ago, and Riis is desperate.




CQ suggests Katusha has 29 riders - and the maximum squad size is 30. A Kolobnev sized gap?


In that case the website here in Norway is wrong.

But isn't there a rool that says that you could have xxx riders plus xxx neo-pros?

28+2 it is.
Edited by tastasol on 29-02-2012 18:33
 
CrueTrue
Riis should have enough money by now, and he's desperate for any point he can get. Match made in heaven?

Not to mention the points Kolobnev has from the 2011 season. I don't know if they are enough, but as you know, Saxo is currently fighting for its World Tour license due to the fact that Contador's points have been removed ... which were also 60 % of Saxo's total amount of points. A few extra points would suit the time fine, I guess.
 
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fenian_1234
How many riders do Astana have? If there's room, they'll have him.
 
Eden95
Wilier wrote:
Eden95 wrote:
I don't know why, but I found this interesting about Voeckler.
https://www.cyclingnews.com/news/voeck...nt-like-me


I think it's true that many riders don't like Voeckler. I remember an interview with Kroon, where he stated that Voeckler is always showing off in front of the camera. Making weird faces like he's very tired, always trying to get attention. Former teammate Clement also stated this in an interview. I also heard Gesink saying something like this in an interview.

From a cyclingfan's point of view I can understand why almost everybody likes him. He attacks a lot and he can make boring stages interesting. But most riders don't seem to like him.


I can see how they wouldn't like him, most people consider him the face of French cycling, and with that you'd think he might have a big ego because a lot of people say that about him and he obviously knows it.
But nontheless, he's an aggressive rider that tends to take the peloton by surprise when he attacks and makes a race entertaining, and all he's doing is his job.
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solano
Some riders criticised him for not waiting after Hoogerland ended up in the barbed wire at The Tour. It may be though that it gave them an excuse to criticise him when they didn't like him already.
 
Avin Wargunnson
solano wrote:
Some riders criticised him for not waiting after Hoogerland ended up in the barbed wire at The Tour. It may be though that it gave them an excuse to criticise him when they didn't like him already.

I didnt like that too + his childish acting in stage 17 or 18? When he was smashing the bottles in anger.
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Lachi
Why should he have waited for a rider who crashed? The peloton never waits for riders with problems, because else there would not be any time gaps.
Even more as that crash was so harsh, that a normal person would never gotten back on his bike.

And I also smash plastic bottles if I'm angry. I just did today after I found out that I have been fooled by our suppliers. The problem is not the smashing itself but that there are instant replays of the scene and even slow-mo replays. And that other people cannot or don't want to anticipate and/or understand his anger.

As I see it, they/you don't like him because he has emotions and isn't scared about the reaction to his actions. But what would you prefer, a bunch of remote controlled robots?
 
Avin Wargunnson
Lachi wrote:
Why should he have waited for a rider who crashed? The peloton never waits for riders with problems, because else there would not be any time gaps.
Even more as that crash was so harsh, that a normal person would never gotten back on his bike.

And I also smash plastic bottles if I'm angry. I just did today after I found out that I have been fooled by our suppliers. The problem is not the smashing itself but that there are instant replays of the scene and even slow-mo replays. And that other people cannot or don't want to anticipate and/or understand his anger.

As I see it, they/you don't like him because he has emotions and isn't scared about the reaction to his actions. But what would you prefer, a bunch of remote controlled robots?

I like Voeckler a lot as a rider, he is fantastic and makes races interesting, i just didnt like his acting in this years Tour Smile
And i dont like smashing the bottles whoever it is, as i dont like smashing the tennis rockets for example. You are not proffesional sportsman, you can smash what you want Wink
Edited by Avin Wargunnson on 01-03-2012 12:36
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Ste117
I like Voeckler too, attacking rider.

I like riders who attack alot and dont just sit on the wheel.

Valverde, Vinokourov, Voeckler are the main ones Smile
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kumazan
Avin Wargunnson wrote:
Lachi wrote:
Why should he have waited for a rider who crashed? The peloton never waits for riders with problems, because else there would not be any time gaps.
Even more as that crash was so harsh, that a normal person would never gotten back on his bike.

And I also smash plastic bottles if I'm angry. I just did today after I found out that I have been fooled by our suppliers. The problem is not the smashing itself but that there are instant replays of the scene and even slow-mo replays. And that other people cannot or don't want to anticipate and/or understand his anger.

As I see it, they/you don't like him because he has emotions and isn't scared about the reaction to his actions. But what would you prefer, a bunch of remote controlled robots?

I like Voeckler a lot as a rider, he is fantastic and makes races interesting, i just didnt like his acting in this years Tour Smile
And i dont like smashing the bottles whoever it is, as i dont like smashing the tennis rockets for example. You are not proffesional sportsman, you can smash what you want Wink


So what's your opinion about smashing 'fans'? Pfft

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Edited by kumazan on 01-03-2012 18:07
 
Lachi
I don't like if the integrity of a living object is harmed. No matter if it is the physical or other integrity. And no matter if by direct attack and/or other. Of course this should be bilateral, but I can understand that some actions produce strong(er) reactions.
 
lagetcher
Avin Wargunnson wrote:
Lachi wrote:
Why should he have waited for a rider who crashed? The peloton never waits for riders with problems, because else there would not be any time gaps.
Even more as that crash was so harsh, that a normal person would never gotten back on his bike.

And I also smash plastic bottles if I'm angry. I just did today after I found out that I have been fooled by our suppliers. The problem is not the smashing itself but that there are instant replays of the scene and even slow-mo replays. And that other people cannot or don't want to anticipate and/or understand his anger.

As I see it, they/you don't like him because he has emotions and isn't scared about the reaction to his actions. But what would you prefer, a bunch of remote controlled robots?

I like Voeckler a lot as a rider, he is fantastic and makes races interesting, i just didnt like his acting in this years Tour Smile
And i dont like smashing the bottles whoever it is, as i dont like smashing the tennis rockets for example. You are not proffesional sportsman, you can smash what you want Wink


He'd just lost his chance of finishing on the podium at the Tour de France. I think we can let him off for thorwing a bidon.. And also, as Lachi said, it's good to see some personality and emotion at a time when cycling can come across as robotic.
 
Avin Wargunnson
kumazan wrote:
So what's your opinion about smashing 'fans'? Pfft

This is nothing compared to Frigo's famous punch :lol:
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Avin Wargunnson
lagetcher wrote:
He'd just lost his chance of finishing on the podium at the Tour de France. I think we can let him off for thorwing a bidon.. And also, as Lachi said, it's good to see some personality and emotion at a time when cycling can come across as robotic.

What i found funny about this is that he was teared apart from opposition by his own weapons (attacks). That day, he would certainly like a robotic riding a lot more Smile
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dienblad
- Attacking a lot: great.
- Attacking/Not waiting when others have crashed: part of cycling, especially when you don't know if someone is able to get back on his bike again.
- Throwing water bottles: childish behaviour, you can better use that energy to regain some time or minimize your loss. Or like Lars Boom did in his cyclocross days, slapping himself in the face.
- Act as if you are dead tired, and then attack again... In football, this is called a schwalbe (okay, I know that in cycling, nobody tries to kick you off your bike and you can't earn penalty kicks...)
So my conclusion about Voeckler: great attacking rider, who doesn't need al this acting.

- Riders punching "fans" who are irritating as hell: hit 'em harder!


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lagetcher
Avin Wargunnson wrote:
lagetcher wrote:
He'd just lost his chance of finishing on the podium at the Tour de France. I think we can let him off for thorwing a bidon.. And also, as Lachi said, it's good to see some personality and emotion at a time when cycling can come across as robotic.

What i found funny about this is that he was teared apart from opposition by his own weapons (attacks). That day, he would certainly like a robotic riding a lot more Smile


I don't see how it was robotic - he cracked and made a tactical error. Anyway... Pfft
 
Aquarius
dienblad wrote:
- Riders punching "fans" who are irritating as hell: hit 'em harder!

Seconded. I wish all those idiots running near riders and block or annoy the following riders as well would get kicked in the teeth. (no irony intended, I mean it).
 
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