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| Avin Wargunnson |
Posted on 07-06-2012 06:33
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sutty68 wrote:
Hope they all recover in time to beat England 
They could do it even poisoned with Hodgson as a manager and with Downing in team 
Also what do you think about the best England defender Ferdinand is sitting at home,because of that racist c*nt Terry is playing?
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| Aquarius |
Posted on 07-06-2012 07:25
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Wenger was asked on the French television two days ago if Ferdinand being kept at home can be explained otherwise (than because of Terry). Answer : "you can't explain it any other way". |
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| Avin Wargunnson |
Posted on 07-06-2012 07:29
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Aquarius wrote:
Wenger was asked on the French television two days ago if Ferdinand being kept at home can be explained otherwise (than because of Terry). Answer : "you can't explain it any other way".
Good old Arsene, i love him.
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| Ian Butler |
Posted on 07-06-2012 12:01
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Big article in the newspaper about France, looks like they ain't got much hope themselves. No star player. |
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| Geezar10 |
Posted on 07-06-2012 12:20
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Avin Wargunnson wrote:
sutty68 wrote:
Hope they all recover in time to beat England
They could do it even poisoned with Hodgson as a manager and with Downing in team
Also what do you think about the best England defender Ferdinand is sitting at home,because of that racist c*nt Terry is playing?
We'll see about that!  The England team will annihilate this year although I think Ferdinand should have been called up. |
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| Aquarius |
Posted on 07-06-2012 12:27
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Ian Butler wrote:
Big article in the newspaper about France, looks like they ain't got much hope themselves. No star player.
What does it take to be a star player ? Being called Ronaldo or Messi ? Only two teams can pretend to have one then.
As Zonal Marking (it's a must read site, check it out those who haven't) put it : France is the most unpredictable team of the tournament.
Our result will depend on a lot of factors, but if all of them flash green at the same time, we could make it very far in this tournament. Though if they flash red, it might just as well be one more disaster. |
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| sutty68 |
Posted on 07-06-2012 12:51
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Avin Wargunnson wrote:
sutty68 wrote:
Hope they all recover in time to beat England
They could do it even poisoned with Hodgson as a manager and with Downing in team
Also what do you think about the best England defender Ferdinand is sitting at home,because of that racist c*nt Terry is playing?
Apparently the reason for Ferdinand not being included, could be race related, if true then Sol Campbell is going to give all his England caps back to the F.A |
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| Alakagom |
Posted on 07-06-2012 13:34
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That's nonsense
Defoe returned to England as his father died yesterday. Sad news along the death of Manuel Preciado, who was to be unveiled Villareal coach today I think ; /
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| superider2010 |
Posted on 07-06-2012 14:08
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Ian Butler wrote:
Big article in the newspaper about France, looks like they ain't got much hope themselves. No star player.
ribery,benzema,nasry,lloris they aren't stars?
ribery in big form
france will finish 1st in group D
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| issoisso |
Posted on 07-06-2012 14:10
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Aquarius wrote:
As Zonal Marking (it's a must read site, check it out those who haven't)
Been reading it for years, since it had only 2 articles on it, way back when it started. Love it. Check it every day.
The preceding post is ISSO 9001 certified
"I love him, I think he's great. He's transformed the sport in so many ways. Every person in cycling has benefitted from Lance Armstrong, perhaps not financially but in some sense" - Bradley Wiggins on Lance Armstrong
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| solano |
Posted on 07-06-2012 20:25
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sutty68 wrote:
Avin Wargunnson wrote:
sutty68 wrote:
Hope they all recover in time to beat England
They could do it even poisoned with Hodgson as a manager and with Downing in team
Also what do you think about the best England defender Ferdinand is sitting at home,because of that racist c*nt Terry is playing?
Apparently the reason for Ferdinand not being included, could be race related, if true then Sol Campbell is going to give all his England caps back to the F.A
He also said: "None of this really surprises me as I have experienced first-hand the FA's inability to treat players properly. After I came back to Arsenal at the start of 2010, I was playing as well as any defender in the country and legitimately thought I would get a call-up for the World Cup that summer."
That strikes me as incredibly deluded. There was no way he was ever going to the World Cup in 2010.
I do question the decision to not take Ferdinand, 'for footballing reasons' as he is a better defender than some of those chosen. The 'footballing reasons' must be to do with the harmony in the dressing room with both Terry and Ferdinand present. The same decision would have been made about Terry and Wayne Bridge if Bridge hadn't ruled him self out of selection for the World Cup. |
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| sutty68 |
Posted on 08-06-2012 00:26
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solano wrote:
sutty68 wrote:
Avin Wargunnson wrote:
sutty68 wrote:
Hope they all recover in time to beat England
They could do it even poisoned with Hodgson as a manager and with Downing in team
Also what do you think about the best England defender Ferdinand is sitting at home,because of that racist c*nt Terry is playing?
Apparently the reason for Ferdinand not being included, could be race related, if true then Sol Campbell is going to give all his England caps back to the F.A
He also said: "None of this really surprises me as I have experienced first-hand the FA's inability to treat players properly. After I came back to Arsenal at the start of 2010, I was playing as well as any defender in the country and legitimately thought I would get a call-up for the World Cup that summer."
That strikes me as incredibly deluded. There was no way he was ever going to the World Cup in 2010.
I do question the decision to not take Ferdinand, 'for footballing reasons' as he is a better defender than some of those chosen. The 'footballing reasons' must be to do with the harmony in the dressing room with both Terry and Ferdinand present. The same decision would have been made about Terry and Wayne Bridge if Bridge hadn't ruled him self out of selection for the World Cup.
Totally agree with all of this statement mate, until the England big wigs keep there interfering noses out of squad selection then nothing will ever change |
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| Avin Wargunnson |
Posted on 08-06-2012 06:35
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solano wrote:
I do question the decision to not take Ferdinand, 'for footballing reasons' as he is a better defender than some of those chosen. The 'footballing reasons' must be to do with the harmony in the dressing room with both Terry and Ferdinand present. The same decision would have been made about Terry and Wayne Bridge if Bridge hadn't ruled him self out of selection for the World Cup.
For me the important part is that Terry is the one who is the d*ck here, in both Bridge (he banged his wife) and Ferdinand (recorded racist abuse to his brother). If you englishmen are happy to have such a shite in team,no problem for me.
Also dont forget Suarez got his ban and Terryy not, meanwhile Terrys racism was recorded unlike the Suarez one.Hypocricy of the highest level, our captain is innocent, oh boy 
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| Vien |
Posted on 08-06-2012 08:45
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Going to post my predictions here to make a fool of myself:
Group A
1 Russia
2 Greece
3 Poland
4 Czech Republic
Russia will win this easily. Perhaps we Dutchies like Russia because of their Dutch coach, but I don't see how anyone else can beat them. Greece will beat Poland and Czech Republic with a boring 1-0, and I think the home adventage will give Poland a win over the Czech Republic.
Group B
1 Germany
2 Netherlands
3 Denmark
4 Portugal
Should be in the bag for Die Mannschaft, they can only attack but with the holes in the Dutch and Portugese defense and the lack of Danish quality I always see them scoring one more goal than their opponent. Denmark will win over Portugal because of their teamwork, I'm scared Eriksen will fail because he played a ridiculously high amount of matches this season for a 20-year old already.
Group C
1 Spain
2 Ireland
3 Italy
4 Croatia
My fist intuition said Italy 4th, but maybe the media is blowing up the story about them a lot. This group (or in fact the whole tourney) will be based on the defensive qualities of the teams: Greece and Ireland are specialists, other teams that desperately try to be like Chelsea, such as Italy, will fail.
Group D
1 France
2 Sweden
3 England
4 Ukraine
Like I said before, France and Spain are the only "good" teams to have a solid defense. England's preparation was a disaster, they're missing the best defenders they have, and -of course- Rooney. All Swedish eyes are on Zlatan, but I'm expecting a lot from Toivonen as well.
QF
Russia - Netherlands
Germany - Greece
Spain - Sweden
France - Ireland
No real surprises in the quarterfinals, but NL and Germany will have a very hard time.
SF
Netherlands - Spain
Germany - France
Defense will be decisive here. All teams have an equal attack, perhaps Spain a bit better and France a bit weaker because they often "go deep" with less people. Expecting extra time at Germany-France.
Final
Spain - France
There's no way to look over Spain here, they're simply too good not to win for the third time in a row. Only problem this tourney could be the miss of David Villa, but a Torres in form (!) will make up for that.
Edited by Vien on 08-06-2012 08:46
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| solano |
Posted on 08-06-2012 10:00
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Avin Wargunnson wrote:
solano wrote:
I do question the decision to not take Ferdinand, 'for footballing reasons' as he is a better defender than some of those chosen. The 'footballing reasons' must be to do with the harmony in the dressing room with both Terry and Ferdinand present. The same decision would have been made about Terry and Wayne Bridge if Bridge hadn't ruled him self out of selection for the World Cup.
For me the important part is that Terry is the one who is the d*ck here, in both Bridge (he banged his wife) and Ferdinand (recorded racist abuse to his brother). If you englishmen are happy to have such a shite in team,no problem for me.
Also dont forget Suarez got his ban and Terryy not, meanwhile Terrys racism was recorded unlike the Suarez one.Hypocricy of the highest level, our captain is innocent, oh boy
I don't think you'll find many people disagreeing with you in England. John Terry is not liked by most people. If his court case had been sooner it would have been better for England; if he's found innocent then the squad can move on but if he's found guilty then he's locked up and isn't eligible for selection. Either way it would have been better if he'd already been to court. |
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Posted on 08-06-2012 10:11
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Anyone else expecting fireworks from Italy's superstrikers? A combination of Ballotelli and Cassano will be very exciting On and of the pitch!
Edited by Spilak23 on 08-06-2012 10:11
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| Aquarius |
Posted on 08-06-2012 11:35
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Vien wrote:
Like I said before, France and Spain are the only "good" teams to have a solid defense. Apparently you haven't seen our last matches.
Evra is usually out of his element (leaves huge spaces behind him, etc.), Mexes and Rami have been showing good and bad things, not at the same time though. Sagna who should have been there as FB is injured.
Add that our defensive midfields are all more or less slightly injured (M'Vila and Alou Diarra) and uncertain for the England match, so no, we're far from having a solid defence at the moment. |
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| Vien |
Posted on 08-06-2012 11:49
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Aquarius wrote:
Vien wrote:
Like I said before, France and Spain are the only "good" teams to have a solid defense. Apparently you haven't seen our last matches.
Evra is usually out of his element (leaves huge spaces behind him, etc.), Mexes and Rami have been showing good and bad things, not at the same time though. Sagna who should have been there as FB is injured.
Add that our defensive midfields are all more or less slightly injured (M'Vila and Alou Diarra) and uncertain for the England match, so no, we're far from having a solid defence at the moment.
I'm not into football enough to follow the practice matches, so I mainly based this on the qualifications. They did well there though they were lucky to beat Bosnia-Herzegovina. So I didn't know about your trouble, though all I read in the newspapers nowadays is teams with injured defenders. Big question is whether a "weak" team with strong defending tactics (France imo) is better than a well-prepared attacking team (Germany).
Still expecting them to reach at least the semis, though.
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Posted on 08-06-2012 11:55
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A shame that I can`t watch todays opening. At least I will be there for the Germany match tomorrow. |
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| Avin Wargunnson |
Posted on 08-06-2012 11:56
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