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| siwi |
Posted on 17-01-2011 02:00
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Thats just a really stupid comment from Fränk. Im starting to really not like the Schlecks.... |
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| valverde321 |
Posted on 17-01-2011 03:00
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And the sisters start the shit talking already. Just surprised it was Frank this time and not Andy.
Hey I bet in a year or two Andy admits to everyone that it was actually his fault with the chain problem in the TDF! And I can't wait to hear what they say about the alcohol incident at La Vuelta.
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| pmtg99 |
Posted on 17-01-2011 04:20
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i believe that HTC will be more successful in the TDU with goss for the simple reason that every major sprinter is fighting for cav's wheel, leaving goss, renshaw, eisel etc if in form, the chance for their own glory |
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| Guido Mukk |
Posted on 17-01-2011 07:21
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pmtg99 wrote:
i believe that HTC will be more successful in the TDU with goss for the simple reason that every major sprinter is fighting for cav's wheel, leaving goss, renshaw, eisel etc if in form, the chance for their own glory
that decoy thing does not work thrue all Tour.
you can follow Cav..but when he is in top shape..you have no chanche. At the moment I believe that Cav is beatable. |
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| issoisso |
Posted on 17-01-2011 10:02
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I gave up trying to show people who the Schlecks really are about two years ago.
Frank is passable. Andy is a gigantic asshole.
Anyway, one of the team's mechanics told the story of what really happened on the Col de la Bonette that year. I suggest Frank reminds himself of it.
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| kumazan |
Posted on 17-01-2011 12:52
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Everytime Schleck (whoever of them) opens his mouth, a part of me desires that the UCI/WADA/whatever organization doesn't ban Contador.
Imagine Andy wins a Tour. His ego would become so big he'd need a tandem to ride the next races. |
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| CrueTrue |
Posted on 17-01-2011 14:32
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The Inner Ring (the blog) now seems to have proof that a rider contract, probably one from Green Edge Cycling Team, contains a note about money being paid per UCI point. Resolution is small, but you get the idea:
The main concern about stuff like this is that it can make riders disloyal to (current) team orders.
For example: Richie Porte signs a contract like this for 2012 with Green Edge. In 2011, will he act as a helper for Contador rather than going for his own chance (with the latter giving him a higher salary)?
He may do as told, but having contracts like these raise the question.
On the other hand, this may not be new. I mean -- good results have always resulted in better contracts. |
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| issoisso |
Posted on 17-01-2011 15:13
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Quite. That was a criticism that most riders who left Milram at different points had of the management:
That they were told their job before each race, and it was rarely to go for their own chances, always to support the leader....and they followed it to the letter. Then their contracts weren't renewed and the team told them it was because they didn't get results for themselves
Then again, Milram shouldn't be held up as an example.
Of anything.
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| Deadpool |
Posted on 17-01-2011 15:32
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issoisso wrote:
Quite. That was a criticism that most riders who left Milram at different points had of the management:
That they were told their job before each race, and it was rarely to go for their own chances, always to support the leader....and they followed it to the letter. Then their contracts weren't renewed and the team told them it was because they didn't get results for themselves
Then again, Milram shouldn't be held up as an example.
Of anything.
Except how to not run a cycling team... |
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| miggi133 |
Posted on 17-01-2011 16:14
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mb2612 wrote:
Wow, Andy and Frank really don't like Sastre:
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"I don't see him as a threat for the GC. It was a fluke year and he had good teammates and although he won't say it he won the Tour because of us."
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"We let go of the jersey for him," said Fränk.
yes Frank, you gave him victory, you would have won had it not been for him...
No doubt, that Sastre played a major part in Frank gaining yellow... Especially that one day when Andy didnt look after himself and had no chance to follow in the mountains...
However, it is true what he is saying. When Sastre attacked they didnt follow him. Indeed they just set back in the Evans Group doing nothing and whenever Evans tried to make a move, they blocked him.
To the comment above: It might be true that Sastre was talking Bullshit about them in press. However this time he cut his own wrist doing the same with sastre... Stupid move...
@issoisso: Well, 2 years ago they were riding for a double podium in the tour for Saxo Bank... And The year before Fränk finished 5th... The year before (2007) andy won the white jersey and finished second in the giro. Your comment makes no sense as both of them were right at the top from 2007 onwards. Id even say 2006 with Fränks win at Alp d'Huez. I know this may sound very biased as im luxemburgian but it is the truth...
And when your riding at their level, Of course you get a major arsshole. You would aswell if everyone expects only the best from you...
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| Thrige |
Posted on 17-01-2011 17:06
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miggi133 wrote:
mb2612 wrote:
Wow, Andy and Frank really don't like Sastre:
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"I don't see him as a threat for the GC. It was a fluke year and he had good teammates and although he won't say it he won the Tour because of us."
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"We let go of the jersey for him," said Fränk.
yes Frank, you gave him victory, you would have won had it not been for him...
No doubt, that Sastre played a major part in Frank gaining yellow... Especially that one day when Andy didnt look after himself and had no chance to follow in the mountains...
However, it is true what he is saying. When Sastre attacked they didnt follow him. Indeed they just set back in the Evans Group doing nothing and whenever Evans tried to make a move, they blocked him.
Fränk didn't give away the jersey. Bjarne Riis just decided to go with Sastre since he believed the most in him.
Actually, he just obeyed Riis' orders. |
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| FreitasPCM |
Posted on 17-01-2011 17:40
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I've just read on As.com that Geox is nearly sure to be left out of the Tour. |
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| fenian_1234 |
Posted on 17-01-2011 17:40
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I think Sastre's move that day surprised everyone - Riis included. Hats off to Carlos. |
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| roturn |
Posted on 17-01-2011 17:47
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FreitasPCM wrote:
I've just read on As.com that Geox is nearly sure to be left out of the Tour.
Quite a pity as Menchov is one of the biggest opponents for Andy in my opinion if Contador isn`t allowed to race. But then he might concentrate for Giro or Vuelta for another GT win. |
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| schleck93 |
Posted on 17-01-2011 17:51
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miggi133 wrote:
mb2612 wrote:
Wow, Andy and Frank really don't like Sastre:
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"I don't see him as a threat for the GC. It was a fluke year and he had good teammates and although he won't say it he won the Tour because of us."
and
"We let go of the jersey for him," said Fränk.
yes Frank, you gave him victory, you would have won had it not been for him...
No doubt, that Sastre played a major part in Frank gaining yellow... Especially that one day when Andy didnt look after himself and had no chance to follow in the mountains...
However, it is true what he is saying. When Sastre attacked they didnt follow him. Indeed they just set back in the Evans Group doing nothing and whenever Evans tried to make a move, they blocked him.
To the comment above: It might be true that Sastre was talking Bullshit about them in press. However this time he cut his own wrist doing the same with sastre... Stupid move...
@issoisso: Well, 2 years ago they were riding for a double podium in the tour for Saxo Bank... And The year before Fränk finished 5th... The year before (2007) andy won the white jersey and finished second in the giro. Your comment makes no sense as both of them were right at the top from 2007 onwards. Id even say 2006 with Fränks win at Alp d'Huez. I know this may sound very biased as im luxemburgian but it is the truth...
And when your riding at their level, Of course you get a major arsshole. You would aswell if everyone expects only the best from you...
But Contador isn't a major arsehole. Yes he is (most likely) a doper and all that. But as a person I have seen anything from him that makes him seem like an arsehole.
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| issoisso |
Posted on 17-01-2011 17:52
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Deadpool wrote:
Except how to not run a cycling team...
Pretty much, yeah. Thee mismanagement on that squad was insane
miggi133 wrote:
@issoisso: Well, 2 years ago they were riding for a double podium in the tour for Saxo Bank...
Eh? They were riding for the Tour win. Sastre won it. Frank would need to attack and gain on Evans, Menchov, etc, more time than Sastre gained that day.
miggi133 wrote:
And The year before Fränk finished 5th... The year before (2007) andy won the white jersey and finished second in the giro. Your comment makes no sense as both of them were right at the top from 2007 onwards. Id even say 2006 with Fränks win at Alp d'Huez. I know this may sound very biased as im luxemburgian but it is the truth...
How does that have anything to do with Andy being an asshole?
Andy is an enormous tool. Results have nothing to do with it.
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And when your riding at their level, Of course you get a major arsshole. You would aswell if everyone expects only the best from you...
That's a very weak excuse. Valverde is one of the most successful athletes of the last decade, yet he's the nicest guy around. That's just one single example, I could name more.
fenian_1234 wrote:
I think Sastre's move that day surprised everyone - Riis included. Hats off to Carlos.
Riis said the plan was the following:
- Sastre was to attack at the bottom of the Alpe, while Frank waited;
- If he was brought back, then the others would have been softened up by having to bring Sastre back, so then Frank had to attack;
- If not, Sastre had free reign to go for it. But only, and absolutely only, if he had dropped the other contenders.
Now, considering that during the climb of the Bonette, Frank was told in no uncertain terms by Riis that he had to attack there and then to win the Tour (or to quote Riis "If you want to win the Tour it has to hurt and it has to hurt NOW" ), and he chickened out of it, I don't see how he'd have the strength of spirit to attack on the Alpe, either.
In fact, according to the team's mechanic who overheard the conversation, Sastre wanted to attack that very same minute on the Bonette, but had the decency to go up to Frank and ask him to. Frank said no. Sastre didn't attack.
If Sastre was like the Schlecks, no doubt he would've complained about that. But he didn't.
At the end of the day, two things happened:
- The best rider won;
- The best man won;
And that pisses the Schlecks off.
Personally, I'll be laughing hard if someone else (such as Menchov or so) wins the Tour.
Edited by issoisso on 17-01-2011 17:54
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| Ste117 |
Posted on 17-01-2011 18:14
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I have nothing against the Schlecks but that was bitter, Sastre was the strongest so there for went on Alpe du Huez.
As for Geox possibly missing out on the Tour, very dissapointing, Menchov hashis best chance at winning the tour if Contador ain't their, I really hope Geox get invited. If not only Sanchez and Schleck fighting for the win, gonna be pretty boring.
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| felix_29 |
Posted on 17-01-2011 18:23
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The AIGCP wrote a letter (https://www.cyclingnews.com/news/aigcp-rejects-uci-radio-ban) to the UCI to reason radio communication. They say: "Fans do not want winners who haphazardly fell into a victory due to lack of information.”
Is it just me who would like to see this scenario instead of well-informed peloton catch front-groups for sure?
The other arguments metioned may be better but i still want to see races without radio communication.
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| Martin_TB |
Posted on 17-01-2011 18:30
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THR Post on FB about The Tour Down Under went up earlier today.
Original post here
Mark Cavendish [25]
Isle of Man, UK
https://www.highro...-Cavendish
“I have never raced in January before so we will just have to see. I have had a good trouble free winter so it will be good to see where I am. I'm excited to start racing.
"We're coming here with a really strong team and the stages aren't too long but they are going to be quite tough with everybody vying for an early season win. We'll be doing our best to come out top."
Bernhard Eisel [29]
Voitsberg, Austria
https://www.highro...hard-Eisel
“I count the days to come back here, I love this event. It is perfect to come here and train and race.
“It is a tough course again. There are some changes from last year - Angaston is shorter, Strathalbyn is a tricky finish, even Mannum could be tricky. I saw the forecast and it isn’t going to be too hot which makes it easier for the Europeans so it will be perfect weather and perfect racing I hope.”
Bert Grabsch [35]
Wittenberg, Germany
https://www.highro...rt-Grabsch
"We have had one week here and I think my condition is good right now. I will be working hard for the team this week. We have two or three excellent sprinters, so hopefully one of them will win.”
Matt Goss [24]
Launceston, Australia
https://www.highro...-Matt-Goss
“The first 10 days of January have been a good start to the 2011 season and great for my confidence. In a tough field with some top class sprinters, to come out with a win at the Bay Criteriums is great for me. Then Nationals went really well as it isn’t known as a course that is good for sprinters but I had a great ride and climbed successfully. To come away with second was excellent and gives me a real boost for this week.”
Hayden Roulston [30]
Christchurch, New Zealand
https://www.highro...n-Roulston
“First up, I’d like to have a good Tour Down Under, a stage win, if the opportunity presents itself. Then, early season goals are Het Nieuwsblad and Kuurne [Brussel-Kuurne] providing I travel well after Tour of Oman - there’s only a week in-between. I saw last year I’m suited to the Classics and I’m quite excited to go back and have a good crack. I want to be well prepared in that big week; Flanders and Paris Roubaix and see how it goes.”
Mark Renshaw [28]
Bathurst, Australia
https://www.highro...rk-Renshaw
“It is good to be back. To start the season here at Tour Down Under is always great. I had a big season in 2010 for a number of reasons but I had a restful break at the end of the year and took 5 weeks off the bike. It was a good recovery period."
Danny Pate [31]
Colorado Springs, USA
https://www.highro...Danny-Pate
“It is great to get in some sunshine already and I am excited about this week. I would chase the summer all year round if I could! I am excited to be with the team, they have great management, support and the riders are a great bunch.”
“I will be working hard for the team this week and it is a fairly straightforward role to support the sprinters. My contribution will end pretty far out on each stage so I don’t anticipate being there at the finish. I will of course go all out in the sprint preparation but it is over to them at the finish.”
Hope I put it in the right place.
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| siwi |
Posted on 17-01-2011 18:57
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roturn wrote:
FreitasPCM wrote:
I've just read on As.com that Geox is nearly sure to be left out of the Tour.
Quite a pity as Menchov is one of the biggest opponents for Andy in my opinion if Contador isn`t allowed to race. But then he might concentrate for Giro or Vuelta for another GT win.
Indeed.
But dont they give 4 Wild Cards? Francaise des Jeux, Cofidis and Europcar. And then what team gets the last? Hmm.. ASO is a joke if they give it to Saur-Sojasun, Skil or some team like that. Geox should be invited IMO... |
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