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Vuelta á España 2014
Wilier
Malkael wrote:
Nacer Bouhanni in fifth? If that stands in the official results I'm still going to go take a cold shower to make sure I am not dreaming.


Bouhanni is a good climber when bothered. He already showed in Route du Sud.
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ikaros33
He also had a very similar result in a very similar stage at the Vuelta 2 years ago with a finish in Barcelona a bit more than 3km after the Montjuic, won by Gilbert ahead of Rodriguez with Bouhanni in 7th in the same group as Valverde and three seconds ahead of Contador and Froome.
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Shonak
Nice one by Navarro. Smile

Crazy Bouhanni, finishing in that group. New king of uphill sprints? o_O
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baseballlover312
another strong day by Dan, he ahs the right idea, but he just always attacks on the wrong moment. he went at a time when the gradient was barely going upwards. Twice.
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Riis123
Either Rodriguez simply isn't that strong (which his TT doesn't suggest), or he simply saves himself because he knows that this is his last shot, realistically, at a GT and thus want the next 3 days to count instead of hunting stages. I hope its the ladder, but on the other hand, bonus seconds will help that cause.

Tomorrow is a climb tailor-made from Rodriguez, he SHOULD be able to drop all the other contenders if he wants to win. Else I simply dont see it happening as the only one (along with Rodriguez, possibly) who would be able to challenge Contador is Q. Sadly, everyone how that ended. He will by the way be back on his bike.

Navarro with a good win, but Kelderman at 3rd, with all due respect for him, tells that the big guns marked each other. Navarro is really getting his act together here at the Vuelta, he has really been aggressive. And not only those skin attacks which we see way too often. Probs!

I doubt there will happen something tomorrow GC-wise before the last climb, but I hope that the other teams at least will try to expose Contador on San Glorio like in the Dauphine as his team once again (in the mountains, that is) is his weak point. With Nairo out, that makes Movistar a lot weaker as I have said (which they dont) have any really good climbers apart from those 2, but a overall team focused on protecting them. Izaguirre and Herrada are probably the strongest, but I doubt they are stronger than Zaugg, but that is just pure speculation.. I dont think Sky will try anything as Nieve isn't on par (at least he wasn't on the last mountain stage) and obviously Froome either, so the biggest thread comes from Katusha with Moreno, Caruso and Rodriguez which are the only ones that can turn the race upside down on more demanding mountain stage which tomorrow's sorta is.

 
Movistar
Riis123 wrote:
Either Rodriguez simply isn't that strong (which his TT doesn't suggest), or he simply saves himself because he knows that this is his last shot, realistically, at a GT and thus want the next 3 days to count instead of hunting stages. I hope its the ladder, but on the other hand, bonus seconds will help that cause.

Navarro with a good win, but Kelderman at 3rd, with all due respect for him, tells that the big guns marked each other. Navarro is really getting his act together here at the Vuelta, he has really been aggressive. And not only those skin attacks which we see way too often. Probs!




Once Navarro went, i dont think a spanish rider even did more than coast. That stage was simply a case of giving a spanish rider a win in a spanish race. Bouhanni was 5th and though he is a decent climber I guess, so are other sprinters. Once Navarro went none of the spanish guys touched a pedal harder than they realistically had to.
 
Shonak
Movistar wrote:
Once Navarro went, i dont think a spanish rider even did more than coast. That stage was simply a case of giving a spanish rider a win in a spanish race. Bouhanni was 5th and though he is a decent climber I guess, so are other sprinters. Once Navarro went none of the spanish guys touched a pedal harder than they realistically had to.

So apparently Dani Moreno is not spanish? Rolling Eyes
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Riis123 wrote:
Either Rodriguez simply isn't that strong (which his TT doesn't suggest), or he simply saves himself because he knows that this is his last shot, realistically, at a GT and thus want the next 3 days to count instead of hunting stages. I hope its the ladder, but on the other hand, bonus seconds will help that cause.

Tomorrow is a climb tailor-made from Rodriguez, he SHOULD be able to drop all the other contenders if he wants to win. Else I simply dont see it happening as the only one (along with Rodriguez, possibly) who would be able to challenge Contador is Q. Sadly, everyone how that ended. He will by the way be back on his bike.

Navarro with a good win, but Kelderman at 3rd, with all due respect for him, tells that the big guns marked each other. Navarro is really getting his act together here at the Vuelta, he has really been aggressive. And not only those skin attacks which we see way too often. Probs!

I doubt there will happen something tomorrow GC-wise before the last climb, but I hope that the other teams at least will try to expose Contador on San Glorio like in the Dauphine as his team once again (in the mountains, that is) is his weak point. With Nairo out, that makes Movistar a lot weaker as I have said (which they dont) have any really good climbers apart from those 2, but a overall team focused on protecting them. Izaguirre and Herrada are probably the strongest, but I doubt they are stronger than Zaugg, but that is just pure speculation.. I dont think Sky will try anything as Nieve isn't on par (at least he wasn't on the last mountain stage) and obviously Froome either, so the biggest thread comes from Katusha with Moreno, Caruso and Rodriguez which are the only ones that can turn the race upside down on more demanding mountain stage which tomorrow's sorta is.



Eh? I know Rodriguez is strong but i think you are forgetting that a Contador isent a weakling the same with Froome and Valverde.

A Rodriguez at top is still only equal or slightly behind a Froome, Contador at their peak and on level with a Valverde.

But today will prove if Contador has what it takes or he will lose the Vuelta today.

My bet is that Froome will come out of nothing and take the jersey or take a huge chunk out of the timediff.
 
Nin1388
I think Rodriguez has been weakened by Amstel and Giro crashes. We saw at stage 4 he could not follow Dan Martin and Matthew. That finish was made for him. Also he is not getting young either. And yesterday Katusha were not pushing at all on a Purito finish, showing they are not confident in him winning. If he does get time on Valverde or Contador then I will be happy but I don't think he can.
 
ruben
or maybe Rodriguez hit his age_decline

:lol:
 
TimoCycling
ruben wrote:
or maybe Rodriguez hit his age_decline

:lol:


Lol, would be about time aswell. If you get older your explosiveness on climbs goes away gradually. And that's his specialty.
 
Dusen
If they go 100% on the last climb, i think we will see Froome lose the GC or at least ride himself out of a realistic chance of winning.
 
Riis123
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They have got around 2 minutes now, so safe to say its the break. Well played by Tinkoff
 
Shonak
Meintjes finally scoring first Velogames points then. Smile
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TimoCycling
FFS Belkin, fucking WAGNER in there??? Why not Ten Dam???
 
SSJ2Luigi
TimoCycling wrote:
FFS Belkin, fucking WAGNER in there??? Why not Ten Dam???

Ten Dam needs to make pace with Kelderman for Gesink so that he can win a stage. both can make a better pace then Daniel Moreno

- Michael Boogerd, giving a preview on Roompot Orange tactics Pfft
 
Riis123
SSJ2Luigi wrote:
TimoCycling wrote:
FFS Belkin, fucking WAGNER in there??? Why not Ten Dam???

Ten Dam needs to make pace with Kelderman for Gesink so that he can win a stage. both can make a better pace then Daniel Moreno

- Michael Boogerd, giving a preview on Roompot Orange tactics Pfft


Stagewins > secondary GC. Anyhow it all comes down to how the individual feels of such a climb as today..
 
sutty68
Nice to see Hansen finally show his face Wink
 
Riis123
Omega with a kinda bold move there, I dont have confidence in him winning on a stage like this, but apparently he has himself.

Good for the race though.
 
Nin1388
I think OPQS want to make Froome suffer and maybe get more gap for Uran. I think both Purito and Uran missed a trick on stage 11. When they saw Froome suffer they should have come to front and set pace themselves. Rather than hoping that Valverde or Contador takes it up.
 
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