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Critérium du Dauphiné 2015
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| Wilier |
Posted on 11-06-2015 14:00
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In a month Nibali and Astana will fly up the mountains. I guarantee it! |
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| deek12345 |
Posted on 11-06-2015 14:01
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CountArach wrote:
deek12345 wrote:
wtf nibali just don't understand that guy .
What do you mean? Still has to find some form before the TDF. This is totally normal in this race.
Remember Wiggins was the first time since Armstrong to do the Dauphine-Tour double. Totally normal to not be at peak fitness here.
I mean last few years he's beng dropped like a stone nearly every race then come tdf he's a beast
Edited by deek12345 on 11-06-2015 14:02
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| Strydz |
Posted on 11-06-2015 14:02
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deek12345 wrote:
wtf nibali just don't understand that guy .
He did the exact same thing last year, he is riding to a plan and once he reaches the power numbers can no longer sustain he drops out and rides his own pace, to me he is setting it up again to peak at the right time
Hells 500 Crew and 6 x Everester
Don Rd Launching Place
Melbourne Hill Rd Warrandyte
Colby Drive Belgrave South
William Rd The Patch
David Hill Rd Monbulk
Lakeside Drive Emerald
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| CountArach |
Posted on 11-06-2015 14:04
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deek12345 wrote:
CountArach wrote:
deek12345 wrote:
wtf nibali just don't understand that guy .
What do you mean? Still has to find some form before the TDF. This is totally normal in this race.
Remember Wiggins was the first time since Armstrong to do the Dauphine-Tour double. Totally normal to not be at peak fitness here.
I mean last few years he's beng dropped like a stone nearly every race then come tdf he's a beast
I think we get guess why.
TVG deserved yellow.
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| Ian Butler |
Posted on 11-06-2015 14:04
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Wilier wrote:
In a month Nibali and Astana will fly up the mountains. I guarantee it!
Yeah.
In history, there have been "races" between riders, between teams, sometimes between frame producers (see the hour record etc),
but I think now we have a power struggle going on between 2 kinds of doping. Sky with a long-range doping, effective throughout the entire season!
Astana with peaking doping. In superman shape at the right time!
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| Paul23 |
Posted on 11-06-2015 14:04
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Ian Butler wrote:
CountArach wrote:
deek12345 wrote:
wtf nibali just don't understand that guy .
What do you mean? Still has to find some form before the TDF. This is totally normal in this race.
Remember Wiggins was the first time since Armstrong to do the Dauphine-Tour double. Totally normal to not be at peak fitness here.
Some people are just used to FroomeBot.exe and his doping program that allows him to win all throughout the year like it's nothing.
What Nibali does is more realistic.
Fantastic ride by Bardet. I love that downhill, did it myself a lot, too!
What did Froome win this year already? Not too much...
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| Forever the Best |
Posted on 11-06-2015 14:06
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A rider can+'t be on his peak form in Dauphine and the Tour so Wiggins 2012 and Froome 2013 were unreal.
But being so far behind is not good for Nibali whose form should be much higher.Remember that he was 7th overall on last years Dauphine.He should be staying with Frank,Rolland,Talansky,Meintjes etc. to be in peak form in Le Tour.But the glorious Schleck system will give him the enough form before Le Tour.
By the way,another great result from Meintjes |
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| Forever the Best |
Posted on 11-06-2015 14:07
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Paul23 wrote:
Ian Butler wrote:
CountArach wrote:
deek12345 wrote:
wtf nibali just don't understand that guy .
What do you mean? Still has to find some form before the TDF. This is totally normal in this race.
Remember Wiggins was the first time since Armstrong to do the Dauphine-Tour double. Totally normal to not be at peak fitness here.
Some people are just used to FroomeBot.exe and his doping program that allows him to win all throughout the year like it's nothing.
What Nibali does is more realistic.
Fantastic ride by Bardet. I love that downhill, did it myself a lot, too!
What did Froome win this year already? Not too much... I think he was talking about 2013 |
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| Paul23 |
Posted on 11-06-2015 14:08
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The Schleck Fan wrote:
Paul23 wrote:
Ian Butler wrote:
CountArach wrote:
deek12345 wrote:
wtf nibali just don't understand that guy .
What do you mean? Still has to find some form before the TDF. This is totally normal in this race.
Remember Wiggins was the first time since Armstrong to do the Dauphine-Tour double. Totally normal to not be at peak fitness here.
Some people are just used to FroomeBot.exe and his doping program that allows him to win all throughout the year like it's nothing.
What Nibali does is more realistic.
Fantastic ride by Bardet. I love that downhill, did it myself a lot, too!
What did Froome win this year already? Not too much... I think he was talking about 2013
Didn't sound to me like that. Since that is 2 years in the past, it doesn't matter today.
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| CountArach |
Posted on 11-06-2015 14:13
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Some comparisons of people who have won the TDF and where they came in their pre-Tour preperation (Dauphine/Suisse)
2007 - Contador - 6th Dauphine
2008 - Sastre - 20th Dauphine
2009 - Contador - 3rd Dauphine
2010 - Contador - 2nd Dauphine (revoked)/Schleck - 14th Suisse
2011 - Evans - 2nd Dauphine
2012 - Wiggins - 1st Dauphine
2013 - Froome - 1st Dauphine
2014 - Nibali - 7th Dauphine
So while a high ranking in the Dauphine is good for your chances, Sastre, Schleck, and Nibali all show that you don't necessarily have to be at the absolute top of competition. 2012/13 are obvious anomalies where wins in those races lead to TDF wins.
Edited by CountArach on 11-06-2015 14:19
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| Jesleyh |
Posted on 11-06-2015 14:16
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Ah nice list, thanks for that, Count.
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| Forever the Best |
Posted on 11-06-2015 14:17
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@Count In 2009 Contador was 3rd in Dauphine behind an immense Valverde and Evans
And Nibali is not even close to his 2014 form |
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| Spilak23 |
Posted on 11-06-2015 14:20
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Nibali is in better form now then he was at this point last year.
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| CountArach |
Posted on 11-06-2015 14:20
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The Schleck Fan wrote:
@Count In 2009 Contador was 3rd in Dauphine behind an immense Valverde and Evans
Ah yeah don't know where that came from.
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| Shonak |
Posted on 11-06-2015 14:43
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Nibali may be a greater threat in Tour with his current season planning like in last season, but he has become one of the most underwhelming riders in the process. snooze snooze
"It’s a little bit scary when Contador attacks." - Tommy V
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| ziga007 |
Posted on 11-06-2015 15:12
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Shonak wrote:
Nibali may be a greater threat in Tour with his current season planning like in last season, but he has become one of the most underwhelming riders in the process. snooze snooze
Yes dr. Ferrari can do miracles.
Alberto Contador
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| Forever the Best |
Posted on 11-06-2015 15:16
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Spilak23 wrote:
Nibali is in better form now then he was at this point last year. He was much better last year.Last year's Nibali form would have been able to finish with Froome/Intxausti I think.
Because Froome is also looking worse than 2014 Dauphine. |
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| cio93 |
Posted on 11-06-2015 15:32
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CountArach wrote:
2012/13 are obvious anomalies where wins in those races lead to TDF wins.
I love your phrasing. 'Obvious anomalies' is one of the best definitions I've heard.
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| Guido Mukk |
Posted on 11-06-2015 16:33
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any nice youtube link ..last climb? |
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| Paul23 |
Posted on 11-06-2015 16:40
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Guido Mukk wrote:
any nice youtube link ..last climb?
You should watch the last descent...waaaay better
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