fickman wrote:He also didnt do a good Critérium du Dauphiné.
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5th in the TT, 2nd in the white jersey, 14th on GC when he retired
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That one ? It's the finish of a stage where they climbed Serranillos.
Fucking insane, pardon my French, but those were the EPO years. It's a hilly climb and VDB attacks and drops his opponent just like if he was a milestone on the side of the road.
Edited by CrueTrue on 18-06-2013 09:55
No, after that. Ullrich had a crap team so he hired Vandenbroucke to work for him.
Vandenbroucke, mr. non-climber goes to the front on the Puerto de Navalmoral . He has the entire peloton of star climbers strung-out single file as if they were on a crosswind flat stage. He did it the whole mountain.
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ruben wrote:
Pantani 98 is a sight to watch as well
He was never really that dominant in 98 except maybe, MAYBE the Deux Alpes stage.
At the 99 Giro on the other hand he was insane. On the Oropa stage he had a mechanical as the climb started. Everyone was going like hell and he just slowly, calmly fixed his chain and then went off, catching and dropping the riders ahead one by one on the finishing climb.
He soloed in for the win. Jalabert was asked why he moved to the outside of the turn when Pantani caught him. "So he wouldn't flatten me"
A few days later they had a stage finishing on the Alpe di Pampeago. Buenahora responded to Pantani's acceleration and turned himself inside out to stay on Pantani's wheel.
Then after a couple hundred meters the realization set in. "I realized I was sprinting as hard as I could to stay on his wheel....and this wasn't an attack. This was the pace he was going to go all the way to the top. It was like trying to hang on to the wing of an aeroplane taking off"
EDIT: got the quote wrong the first time
Edited by issoisso on 17-06-2013 21:14
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I've just watched the stage when Ullrich outsprinted a peloton of 30 or so, winning the sprint ahead of Olano (), VDB (), and Rebellin ( ).
And I'm not even mentioning the supersonic speed at which the peloton seemed to be riding during the last few km of the stage.
I'm trying to find footage of Ullrich sprinting in Giro 2001 now. IIRC he finished second or third twice in 50 men pelotons.
Ullrich could sprint and TT, he was an excellent and very promising rouleur as a youngster. Quite simply he couldn't climb for shit. Udo Bölts laughed about Ullrich's first training camps with Telekom, saying Ullrich climbed "like a rock", got dropped by the sprinters. Quite normal for such a muscular guy.
Then EPO came and the guys with massive muscles suddenly could carry enough O2 to use all of them while climbing. Ullrich miraculously learned to climb.
EPO isn't just a huge advantage to people with low HcTs like Chiapucci or Ugrumov. It's also massive to people with a lot of muscle that they have no hope of using normally due to not enough oxygenation. Like Ullrich, Induráin, Riis and most stars of the EPO era. Also, a certain small italian climber who was described by team masseur Roberto Pregnolato as "the most densely muscled cyclist I've ever seen".
I quit cycling when I saw riders with fat asses climbing with the best - Lucho Herrera
EDIT: Oh, and it was also, to a lesser degree - a big advantage to some of guys who could do everything already (climb, TT) but couldn't recover well enough for a 3 week race. They went from being the best in the world "only" in classics and weeklong races to being just as good in GTs because they could finally recover as well as everyone else.
Bugno and Rominger come to mind
Edited by issoisso on 17-06-2013 21:20
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Yeah, I know Ullrich could sprint, claiming the opposite is a cliché. He was 5th in the points race WC on track (it's very random but still proves a decent ability for sprint efforts).
It's just odd to see him win 30 men sprints in front of proved fast riders like Rebellin or VDB.
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EDIT: Oh, and it was also, to a lesser degree - a big advantage to some of guys who could do everything already (climb, TT) but couldn't recover well enough for a 3 week race. They went from being the best in the world "only" in classics and weeklong races to being just as good in GTs because they could finally recover as well as everyone else.
Bugno and Rominger come to mind
Jalabert comes to mind here, when he really got into EPO (shamelessly claimed his nose bled everyday during a training stage in Colorado in Summer 1995).
Edited by Aquarius on 17-06-2013 21:25
I'm not so sure about Jalabert. He was tremendously inconsistent. He won the 95 Vuelta because it was the only GT where all his bad days came in flat stages
All his career he'd be crushingly dominant one day and lose 25 mins the next
Like Chaba. Except less dominant Edited by issoisso on 17-06-2013 21:33
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Also, major LOL @ 9mins into the Navalmoral video. VDB stops pulling and just punches it. Entire field dropped.
Commentator: "We're doing over 40". IT'S A FUCKING MOUNTAIN
EDIT: Also, I just realized the video you posted is from Ávila. It's the same stage, yes. Your video is the finish, when he catches the last guy from the break with 2kms to go
Edited by issoisso on 17-06-2013 21:41
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One of the most awesome doped performances ever, with Pantani's Galibier attack and Vandenbroucke's madness in Serranillos.
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