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| cio93 |
Posted on 13-05-2013 20:53
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Very happy for Cisco there, snatching the KoM lead 
A few guys denying Ricco and Phinney too many points was good.
Now, let's see whether our joy of retaining the lead after stage 4 turns to anger as the extra energy spent here might hurt in the fight with Swift tomorrow.
The longest stage of the race after such an effort...
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| Levi4life |
Posted on 13-05-2013 20:53
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5th in the team rankings... how is that even possible
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| niconico |
Posted on 13-05-2013 20:55
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Very nice ride by Keinath so far, he should be able to bump up a few places after the TT!
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| mattiasgt |
Posted on 13-05-2013 21:10
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And there's the pink! Awesome attack by Trofimov. Pity there were no time gaps to the 2nd group, questionable if one minute is enough the keep Phinney behind after the TT.
Edited by mattiasgt on 13-05-2013 21:11
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| Pellizotti2 |
Posted on 13-05-2013 21:22
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cio93 wrote:
Very happy for Cisco there, snatching the KoM lead
Thanks, man!
That certainly went above expectations! At first, I was frustrated to see that my riders were missing most of the early attacks, but I guess it worked out for the best in the end. For a moment, I believed that the stage win was within reach as well, but Trofimov is simply unbeatable. What a machine he is.
A pity Efimkin couldn't hang on for a podium, but KoM jersey checks the first of two goals I have for this race. Now I just need a stage win.
Also enjoying Wallays' impressive racing so far. Both he and Koren surprised me on stage 4, and I found it quite funny to see one of the top GC riders in the long breakaway. I don't think I've ever seen that before.
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| Miguel98 |
Posted on 13-05-2013 21:23
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Well Pelli, you kinda we're right. Placing was crucial. |
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| ember |
Posted on 13-05-2013 21:28
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Another excellent report!
Must admit I thought Trofimov was on his way to a stage win with about a minute, but luckily the peloton upped the pace in the last 10 kilometers. Though, he's a beast, and that was definitely another deserved win.
Another solid performance by Spilak, good to see him snatch third and eight bonus seconds. Now it's all about getting safe through the coming flat stage, and then cross fingers for a good day on the time trial. That will an absolutely crucial stage.
The ongoing duel between Bennati and Swift will be interesting to follow on stage 6. Though, I do feel they'll get surprised soon. Maybe Mohs can grab a win? |
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| SotD |
Posted on 13-05-2013 21:44
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Ill be following the rest of this race with half an eye. Waste of racedays.
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| beagle |
Posted on 13-05-2013 21:53
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Another impressive performance of Jelle Wallays, just a pity he had been dropped in last climb. Tomorrow is another (and last - at least for several days) chance to see green jerseys (and one white) in the front of race, then big boys will already start real fight for pink 
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| Miguel98 |
Posted on 13-05-2013 21:55
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Unless your team win's from a break. |
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| dave92 |
Posted on 13-05-2013 23:16
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Its encouraging to see my young riders up there in support of Phinney, turned out to be crucial in terms of pinning back Trofimov. McCarthy, Pinot, and Meyer all have bright futures ahead.
Mattias, this gap seems right on the edge of what Phinney could pull back with Trofimov already in pink, so it will be a big battle. My hope is that if he can grab the lead he will ride strong in the opening mountain stage which could allow him to retain pink for a few days, and leave him in a strong position with the 2nd flat TT. I believe any chance of an upset victory in the overall would necessitate dethroning Trofimov in the TT.
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| p3druh |
Posted on 13-05-2013 23:32
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So far Sicard has delivered. Looking decent for a top-10. No Young Rider's jersey though. I thought he could have a chance at it here but not with Madrazo. Or Phinney in a Giro with 140km of TT. Too bad I couldn't send Sicard to the Tour. Would've been more fitting.
On the other hand, it's looking like I've wasted 21 days of Vanderbiest's season here.
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| Roman |
Posted on 14-05-2013 01:31
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So Henao value clearly drops a lot thankfully to PCM12 AI... Top 10 in Udine is only a dream for now. 
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| ember |
Posted on 14-05-2013 09:44
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Congrats, SN! Amazing sprint by Swift. The battle for red just looks more and more interesting. And I wonder if Bennati/Swift can allow themselves days like Bennati's on this stage, if they're going to challenge Trofimov.
Really curious about the time trial and how much Spilak will lose. I cross fingers he won't be more than 1'30 behind Phinney, but we shall see.
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| cio93 |
Posted on 14-05-2013 11:56
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Oh my god. Absolutely inexcusable. I'm very happy I don't have to see any of those losers the next five stages.
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| beagle |
Posted on 14-05-2013 12:19
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Mohs disappointing again...
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| SotD |
Posted on 14-05-2013 14:36
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Six, for Fothen, easy stages has costed 3'45" in time loss. I wonder how much he will end up sucking in the end. Top 10 is probably long gone, while he should (on paper) be able to fight for 5th-6th.
Lavoine getting better and better each day, from 20th to 14th, but still noway near anything. French Champion, Sinner hasn't been doing anything and Lavoine apparently is too much of a stagewinner-type for my team to get in any sort of attacks, despite the fact that Chris Anker Sørensen, Bauke Mollema, Diego Ulissi and Mr. Greece should be obvious attacking riders. Atleast that was why I brought them here. I guess you should only bring a sprinter if he is actually capable of winning stages, otherwise it's better off to have a ton of semi-good riders for breakaways as it might give a fluke stagewin, or a KOM jersey.
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| SportingNonsense |
Posted on 14-05-2013 20:58
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SotD wrote:
Six, for Fothen, easy stages has costed 3'45" in time loss. I wonder how much he will end up sucking in the end. Top 10 is probably long gone, while he should (on paper) be able to fight for 5th-6th.
Lavoine getting better and better each day, from 20th to 14th, but still noway near anything. French Champion, Sinner hasn't been doing anything and Lavoine apparently is too much of a stagewinner-type for my team to get in any sort of attacks, despite the fact that Chris Anker Sørensen, Bauke Mollema, Diego Ulissi and Mr. Greece should be obvious attacking riders. Atleast that was why I brought them here. I guess you should only bring a sprinter if he is actually capable of winning stages, otherwise it's better off to have a ton of semi-good riders for breakaways as it might give a fluke stagewin, or a KOM jersey.
You act all negative, but I wonder if youve paid much attention to what has happened to other teams?
Considering Fothen's best stages are all yet to come, Id be interested to know which 10+ riders you can name who you believe Fothen has no chance of overtaking on the remaining 15 stages.
And for your other point, Ulissi has attacked... And its simply not true that no team with a sprinter goes for the breakaway. If a team has one of the designated 'leadout' sprinters then they wont - but that is only Puma, Vesuvio and Pokerstars. See Pearl Adidas or Simply Red Bull for teams who have a better sprinter than you, and have had riders attempting to get in the breakaway. The merits of bringing Lavoine/Sinner to a race which was always going to have a high sprinting quality, is another matter though!
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| Spilak23 |
Posted on 14-05-2013 21:06
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Two hilly stages with an unsuprising winner. A shame for Bennati, I really hope he can take that red jersey here!
Phinney looks good for the TT, don't think anybody will be inside the 1 minute mark after.
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| SotD |
Posted on 14-05-2013 21:19
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Why Cant you respect that I Express my feelings towards the game? You say Im all negative. In this race, sure, but it has been utter crap, like last Giro if you havent noticed with your two stagewins, two second places, one 3rd and two days in Maglia Rosa.
I can accept that Lavoine cant compete, Im slightly bummed that Ulissi lost 1'30 on a stage he shouldnt lose time on, right before the stages where he could do a difference. With some luck he could have been in Maglia Rosa fight (not that it was expected), and heavily unhappy that my captain whom should be good so far has already decided to lose 4-5minutes, while he could realistically have been 3rd or 4th GC after the next stage.
When Im unlucky I get bitchy about my team, riders, the AI (when that is to blame) and Stuff like that, and when I perform or even overperform, Im thrilled, which is also shining through. I try to get as involved as I can and Im sorry that you dislike that, but telling me that Im only negative is a Lie.
Sorry for any missspells, Im on the iPad with Danish translations.
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