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| ember |
Posted on 15-05-2012 00:05
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That was actually when the GPS showed a gap of 2 minutes, pretty sure he just said it wrong, saying meters instead of minutes 
Having said that, the guy who's doing the commentary is arguably the Norwegian cycling commentator knowing most about cycling. His knowledge is great.
This should be another stage win for Sagan. Wonder how many meters he needs to sprint today, less than yesterday?
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| Gulvplanke |
Posted on 15-05-2012 00:18
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well that looked easy
How hard can it be?
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| doddy13 |
Posted on 15-05-2012 00:19
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Sagan again, nice and easy for him.
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| siwi |
Posted on 15-05-2012 00:19
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He is so good.. Unrealistic. |
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| hazzy |
Posted on 15-05-2012 00:19
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Easy. Sagan is a beast, we all know that. |
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| valverde321 |
Posted on 15-05-2012 00:20
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Sagan!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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| baseballlover312 |
Posted on 15-05-2012 00:23
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Sagan's unbeatable. I'm a little afraid he could be in the jersey up to Mt. Baldy.
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| Avin Wargunnson |
Posted on 15-05-2012 07:08
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Aquarius wrote:
ruben wrote:
I think you're wrong. Boonen is more eager this year, almost like 2005/2006 again.
He sprinted again in races he didn't sprint in at all the last few years. And he even won on pure speed against guys like Sagan.
He will sprint here if he gets the chance.
Yeah, but how fast really is Sagan ? I'd rate him as a third rank sprinter.
Boonen would be second rank or something, together with lesser sprinters like Freire, Farrar, Démare, Bos, Renshaw, Hushovd, Petacchi, etc.
I would like to, but Idoubt he'll even bother sprinting against guys like Greipel, Kittel or Cavendish (which I'd call the only three first class sprinters).
Sagan third rank sprinter, that was a good joke 
Edit. Btw another great win for him. Competition is not great in sprints, but he had to overcome another mechanical problems to win.
Edited by Avin Wargunnson on 15-05-2012 07:10
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| Alakagom |
Posted on 15-05-2012 09:44
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Where was Boonen, was he dropped ?
Too easy for Sagan. But this rate he'll win everything here
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| tyriion |
Posted on 15-05-2012 10:33
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Alakagom wrote:
Where was Boonen, was he dropped ?
Too easy for Sagan. But this rate he'll win everything here
Dropped yes, finished 11'30 down.
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| sutty68 |
Posted on 15-05-2012 10:51
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Sagan had mechanical problems and a crash on both stage's up to now, yet rides himself to the front and wins on both occasions, the man is just on awesome form at the moment |
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| Kami |
Posted on 15-05-2012 10:59
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sutty68 wrote:
Sagan had mechanical problems and a crash on both stage's up to now, yet rides himself to the front and wins on both occasions, the man is just on awesome form at the moment
Thing is, he probably isn't anywhere near top shape . (Do note that the competition hasn't been to hard up till now).
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| Avin Wargunnson |
Posted on 15-05-2012 11:07
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Kami wrote:
sutty68 wrote:
Sagan had mechanical problems and a crash on both stage's up to now, yet rides himself to the front and wins on both occasions, the man is just on awesome form at the moment
Thing is, he probably isn't anywhere near top shape . (Do note that the competition hasn't been to hard up till now).
This, he had a month rest, so he is not really in form, but it is enough in Cali. He will be in form in July
Edited by Avin Wargunnson on 15-05-2012 11:08
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| sutty68 |
Posted on 15-05-2012 11:20
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Avin Wargunnson wrote:
Kami wrote:
sutty68 wrote:
Sagan had mechanical problems and a crash on both stage's up to now, yet rides himself to the front and wins on both occasions, the man is just on awesome form at the moment
Thing is, he probably isn't anywhere near top shape . (Do note that the competition hasn't been to hard up till now).
This, he had a month rest, so he is not really in form, but it is enough in Cali. He will be in form in July
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| Aquarius |
Posted on 15-05-2012 12:25
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Avin Wargunnson wrote:
Sagan third rank sprinter, that was a good joke
I have no doubt he'll show Cavendish, Greipel and Kittel altogether, who the really king of sprints is nowadays. 
Seriously, either you didn't understand what I mean, either you can't consider him objectively. I'd say that in pure sprint terms, he's somewhere around the 10th and 15th place of the best sprinters. They're rarely all present at the same time, so that makes him a permanent top 10 finisher in bunch sprints on grand tours for example.
I don't see him higher than that for the moment, though he seems to have the potential to be faster (but he should probably rather focus on mountains or hills rather than sheer speed).
When he's beat sprinters I consider faster than him, I think that was often due to them being whacked by a difficult course rather than to his sheer top speed qualities. |
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| Avin Wargunnson |
Posted on 15-05-2012 12:52
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Aquarius wrote:
Avin Wargunnson wrote:
Sagan third rank sprinter, that was a good joke
I have no doubt he'll show Cavendish, Greipel and Kittel altogether, who the really king of sprints is nowadays.
Seriously, either you didn't understand what I mean, either you can't consider him objectively. I'd say that in pure sprint terms, he's somewhere around the 10th and 15th place of the best sprinters. They're rarely all present at the same time, so that makes him a permanent top 10 finisher in bunch sprints on grand tours for example.
I don't see him higher than that for the moment, though he seems to have the potential to be faster (but he should probably rather focus on mountains or hills rather than sheer speed).
When he's beat sprinters I consider faster than him, I think that was often due to them being whacked by a difficult course rather than to his sheer top speed qualities.
I know what you mean, and i was dicussing this here several times, so no need to do it again, we just handle the role of sprinter differently. Of course Sagan is not as fast as Cavendish or Greipel, but to call him third tier sprinter is opposite extreme to be honest. For example Hunter or Sutton are third tier sprinters ,but Sagan who won almost 20 massprints during last two years including WT and GT stages, beating likes of Goss and Kittel there?
I see Sagan sprinting-wise as similar to Freire, he was third tier sprinter too?
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| tmobile |
Posted on 15-05-2012 13:14
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I dont think you can catalog and compare Sagan as and with the sprinters. Peter is much more than a sprinter. In a pure sprint, of trenos and all plain Cav, Kittel and Goss are more faster, but if you add a hill before the finish, Peter has no rival.
And what more would emphasize, in addition to doing well in almost all fields, is his age ... has an unpredictable future.
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| Guido Mukk |
Posted on 15-05-2012 13:50
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tmobile wrote:
I dont think you can catalog and compare Sagan as and with the sprinters. Peter is much more than a sprinter. In a pure sprint, of trenos and all plain Cav, Kittel and Goss are more faster, but if you add a hill before the finish, Peter has no rival.
And what more would emphasize, in addition to doing well in almost all fields, is his age ... has an unpredictable future.
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| Guido Mukk |
Posted on 15-05-2012 14:01
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watched yesterday sprint..this was domination and smart one..
nice line for final corner ..and right after that acceleration.
Bang..hugh gap between rivals. Nice!
Edited by Guido Mukk on 15-05-2012 14:01
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| valverde321 |
Posted on 16-05-2012 00:04
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It will come down to a sprint again.
Lets hope for no crashes this time!
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