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Vuelta al Táchira Discussion
liefwarrior
Welcome to the 2023 edition of la Vuelta al Táchira. This race has a long and storied history; some might even say it is the Contintental equivalent of the ProContinental People's Grand Tour. We begin with four stages for the sprinters with only the murderous climb up to El Ceibal breaking things up. This first half is generally rather quiet. There aren't many crosswinds to cause chaos on the flat roads and, although it is certainly possible to lose the race on that day, Stage 4 generally hasn't been decisive. Instead it is the sixth day's timetrial up to Iglesia de Boca de Monte that sets the stage for the general classification fight. In the last three editions the winner of that stage (which was number seven in 2020) has gone on to win overall. Several powerful climbers will have lost a significant amount of time by this point, so expect strong breakaways on stages seven, eight and nine. On the final day those rouleurs who survived at high altitude will contest the stage whilst the pure climbers will do their best to limit their losses. The following teams are set to take on these 10 grueling days of riding.


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Gavin Mannion68777164727665556171676364
Hannes Wilksch65676663666765606263676763
Pierre-Pascal Keup66626760646767586568647360
Julian Braun66586270686861596770556671
Ivano Lo Cicero68526052655773658072505671
Eryk Laton72606568717175627475736673
Kamil Gradek72626573697173696666706574
Szymon Tracz66666762656565616265676663
This German-Polish coalition is headed by two foreigners. Gavin Mannion will be tackling the climbs whilst MG legend Ivano Lo Cicero takes aim at the sprints. Now aged 35, the Italian is well and truly at the tail end of his career. He'll need the right wheel and quite a bit of luck if he is to get anything in this field. Mannion is a former stage winner, albeit all the way back in 2017; he also took 2nd overall that year. Unfortunately things have moved on and I expect his previous two results - 14th ('19) and 12th ('22) - to be much more representative. Perhaps Eryk Laton can be persuaded to join a breakaway?


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Tom Scully73516662656976667879546276
Taylor Gunman72657570716870517075746877
Josh Burnett59656460616666585962606160
Evgeny Shalunov70756970757173616463657268
Teodoro Costagli59756766646570505061726366
Jakub Skala74567156707265746671727469
Adam Phelan71647470737065566479806270
Oliver Naesen74567163757167757674635965
Tom Scully hasn't had as prestigious a career as Lo Cicero, but his is still a recognisable name for those who have spent their time watching .2 sprints. He hasn't come to Venezuela in recent years so there is little to work from in that regard but given he too has begun his decline I can't see him as anything more than an outsider for the points classification. Shalunov and Costagli also don't inspire much joy, Shalunov isn't aggressive enough to definitely join the breakaways and Costagli doesn't have the skillset necessary to capitalise on them. Maybe one of Jakub Skala or Adam Phelan can get some TV time on the flatter days...


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Mikel Iturria71777372777476636061696673
Remy Rochas67777461707073606173726662
Clement Berthet64737258687264606272717558
Mathis Le Berre67646865686966666666686662
Gennadiy Tatarinov69757463717168576573766363
Domenic Weinstein71707075727076676870656976
Mikel Agirrebeitia66676369666862605565597265
Oscar Guerao70536153655875647970677453
Mikel Iturria is a solid rider and secured BME 6th in the general classification last year. Remy Rochas is an excellent lieutenant who, barring his poor TTing, can also chase results in his own right (18th in '22). Tatarinov, Berthet and Weinstein tagging along ensures that there will be plenty of support in the mountains. Weinstein will be taking aim at the final day's TT but could also surprise on Stage 6. Guerao is another aging sprinter who will have to be content with picking up whatever points he can.


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★★★★☆
Daniel Munoz66797366727274555671706158
Aberlardo Ablenado67786772737777525165596472
Gonzalo Serrano69727763737572576877776563
Fernando Barcelo70707366717263586773746665
Benat Intxausti60726167646458505256575467
Raul Garcia Pierna70656665636867616765676964
Florian Scheit66727658727169506471776658
H Adriamihajanarivo67707171666768585866676170
Caja Rural had an excellent time in Venezuela during their inaugural season. Alongside victory in the teams classification, Aberlardo Ablenado secured a stage win to go along with his general classification podium. The additions of Daniel Munoz and Florian Scheit mean that they'll be even stronger when it comes to going uphill. Without anybody for the sprints they'll be looking to get somebody into the breakaway over the first few days.


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William Chiarello71797573737477536372736971
Felix English78596467747364637175596970
Albert Kireva74676874717470686971707075
Milan Paulus68626563666863596769726762
Jenno Berckmoes69555768686871686066626669
Filippo Zana66676865686767626770706463
Eric Antonio Fagundez67605968696864626570656768
Emils Liepins73606659736877557879585860
Instead of trying to complete his collection of Grand Tour stage wins in this years Giro d'Italia, William Chiarello has arrived to dominate the 2.2 calendar. He has to be one of the favourites to take the overall win, with just one caveat: he has no support. Felix English and Albert Kireva should be more than capable of bringing anybody back in the valleys but they will struggle to stick with Chiarello over any of the big climbs. The queen stage on day eight will be the biggest danger. Liepins is also along to try and pick up some extra points from the opening sprints.


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Aurelien Paret-Peintre72767772737573637274727072
Clement Chevrier65757457696969506067776057
Joris Delbove64727058667172626067697158
Kevin Vauquelin67696468656966586867707067
Reuben Thompson71686663677166576768627362
Panagiotis Karatsivis69726868707170606471716767
Zhihui Jiang72616665697372627575657379
There is no denying that APP is an excellent rider and a marquee signing for any team, I am just not sure that 10 days in Táchira is the right choice. Most of the climbs are long and steady, summit finishes without much descending, the exact opposite of the sharp, punchy racing which APP prefers. Somewhere in the Top 10 is probably a realistic result, even accounting for his abilities on the TT-bike. Jiang is here to contest the sprints without any great expectations.


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★★★★☆
Sindre Skjostad Lunke69787273767478586065686976
Tormod Jacobsen70737372717071575967736473
Iver Johan Knotten72626378717171585960676674
Sakarias Koller Loland64626560657064636468677060
Lucas Bourgoyne71576060716962636771646763
Joey Rosskopf70707273686665545865656474
Francesco Della Lunga66626460616562666765656862
Adomaitis Rojus75596767667475577978606475
Sindre Skjostad Lunke scored 6th in the 2020 edition whilst sharing leadership with Magnus Cort Nielsen (8th). He returns as the sole leader for Gjensidige and, with the support of Jacobsen and Rosskopf, will be taking aim at going one better and breaching the Top 5. Adomaitis Rojus has completed his development and should benefit from the weaker field to chase his first pro-level results, although he won't get the best use of his prologuing this time out.


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★★☆☆☆
Tsgabu Grmay67777465717376586171587465
Gerben Kuypers67607358677467706475657560
Casper Van Uden65646366687367507171637265
Adrian Nitu67757364716866525168616164
Alessio Martinelli66676665696671556464676766
Gordian Banzer67696964736867515266657364
Joshua Huppertz69637162676967656771636766
Alexander Krieger71586255717475637979626855
One of the Continental Tour's numerous journeyman sprinters, Alexander Krieger has enjoyed a decent amount of success in Táchira. He'll be looking to build on stage victories from 2015 and 2021 in a sprint field that is just slightly weaker than in years past. Tsgabu Grmay is the name to watch when it comes to the mountains, it will be a great success if he can repeat his sixth-place from 2018 but a Top 10 finish shouldn't be unrealistic.


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Natnael Berhane67807465757271516166667064
Gilles Heymes67757173747171535458636173
Maximilian Kabas66676861687060606266666860
Stephan Rabitsch71587567737368546368587275
Axel Laurance69597161696666676571637367
Thomas Boudat73516862717478587978626678
Thomas Koep67747271737473525156536471
John Degenkolb73586664686669698176675864
He's begun his decline, but Natnael Berhane is still a force to be reckoned with. With the support of Heymes and Koep, he'll be aiming to be Chiarello's biggest competitor. The only concern ought to be how much time he'll lose in the final day's timetrial. The Eritrean isn't the only thing that JEWA TIROL brings to the table however. Ivano Lo Cicero and John Degenkolb going head-to-head? This race might as well be taking place in the late 2010s. Thomas Boudat has shown that he is a great sprinter in his own right but his leadout credentials aren't quite as settled. Looking at the complete absence of a third man, perhaps the aim is more a dual-threat than a true train.


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LE Lemus Davila70777272757068565762717272
Joao Gaspar71757566737274556167727066
Emil Andersson71556360747376637676636560
Sergio Chumil65716969717070556266666769
BF Mendoza67716569717172556266676770
Luis Esteban Murillo68606567696967676670766967
Kevin Granados67686759686961536871626861
Gabriel Marin74576565737376677878636669
Aside from Andersson, the Coyotes have brought quite a strong Latin American squad to the best Latin American stage race. Luis Enrique Lemus Davila isn't a name that stands out, although his star might've been dulled by domestique duties throughout his career. He's got big shoes to fill with the retirement of Andrei Amador, who scored 6th for this team in '21. Gaspar should provide excellent support. In contrast, Gabriel Marin is already quite familiar with both the team and the parcours; he scored the team's maiden victory in Stage 5 two years ago. Given the Costa Rican probably isn't a favourite and won't have the benefit of a sprint train we will likely get to enjoy the sight of Murillo in the early breakaways.


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Ben O'Connor70777071707275535868687070
Brendan Canty70757375717173526867666574
Kristian Vanderpool68646477636461606063626276
Jacob Kelly70636869687060677173746571
Tyler Cole72646872676964667071726971
Abner Gonzalez66726860697162606366706961
Jesus Roniel Marte66656865686966686668686662
Kaden Hopkins65606467706363557072636770
If Podium Ambition's Caribbean sunset jersey isn't your favourite in this year's peloton then you ought to get your eyes checked. Thankfully, we can expect them to do more than just look good this season. The homegrown Kristian Vanderpool should have a good crack at taking Stage 10 but the biggest excitement will be the intrateam contest between O'Connor and Canty. Although the former benefits from a lighter frame, and thus easier ascents, the latter has more of a punch and better aero when it comes to the TTs. Making a run at the Top 10 is in reach for either Aussie (although probably not both); they'll need a good result if they're going to snag Ewan's place as best Aussie. That, or the can start fundraising outside Bunnings.


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★★☆☆☆
Giulio Ciccone67777371707073505169595979
Fabio Aru66777363737475505569556963
Sonny Colbrelli73556059727074587873546965
Edoardo Zambanini66686958726767566369646865
Alessandro Verre67666757666466556371655557
Alejandro Franco65686457706866606070706457
Pedro Silva66656758747163606571716560
Dan McLay73566755747279727776626655
Fabio Aru has seen some limited success in Táchira, nearly a decade ago. That shouldn't produce too much concern, as it will probably be Ciccone who takes the lead for the team. He'll be one of the many riders chasing the limited set of Top 10s. Sending Sonny Colbrelli and Dan McLay to the same race probably wasn't the best idea. McLay is the stronger of the pair, but there is no chance of him receiving a leadout; not that there is the requisite third man to build one anyway.


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★★★★★
Piter Campero65787069757072555671697469
Mingrun Chen69757262717576566571606462
Sachin Dulanjana67747274757177636261607575
Nawuti Liphongyu68757274737274655863686373
Jamal Hibatullah68777263696671576070646557
Ajay Pandit Chhetri66757060716365546371697760
AE Maccagli72636675707168616368697075
Tejay Van Garderen69687865726963636673767165
Most of the time ProContinental teams begrudge their mandated .2 race days and send developmental squads to make up the numbers. Sometimes their managers will have targeted a specific rider to take up the leader's mantle at the lower levels. This eclectic bunch might well be the strongest squad in attendance by a fair margin. Piter Campero won the 2021 edition and followed it up with a Top 5 in 2022. Nawuti Liphongyu has improved year-on-year to reach the Top 10 in '22. Dulanjana and Chhetri have also scored points in previous editions. A Top 5, a stage win and the polkadots wouldn't be an unrealisable haul for this lot.


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DA Jaramillo66777560706969606776766662
Andrea Manfredi69786565687372546273777365
Timofey Kritskiy68776873686664516157615572
Quinten Hermans73667561757767626976737664
Michael Gogl69697662747271576775736963
Mikiel Habtom75536164757580687778606367
Issiaka Cisse74536367736778637877735965
Heiko Redecker72567161726577517676595962
Don't let the fact that Timofey Kritskiy is on the teamsheet fool you, his isn't the name to be watching out for. If they are sensible, neither Jaramillo nor Manfredi will chase the GC; instead they should aim to take stage wins from the breakaway. Habtom might end up receiving a train by mere virtue of having the necessary pieces; even with that benefit he probably doesn't have the raw pace to challenge the better sprinters. The potential of Hermans and Gogl as baroudeurs will be hampered by the two other sections.


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★☆☆☆☆
Jan-Andre Freuler69727568737572596775677569
Yves Lampaert75606656747369786061716756
Piet Allegaert74596665747562727271676568
David Wohrer65747363667070556571746962
Marildo Yzeiraj77626660747465656271857266
Mikel Demiri66525270646463546673776270
Naveen John66686771676969586466736672
Connor McCutcheon69727254747374595373747250
Breakaways will be name of the game and the Albanians have come well equipped. Marildo Yzeiraj should be very aggressive and, if the sprinters' teams aren't watchful or Lampaert and Allegaert make it bridge away alongside him, he might be able to snatch a win before we reach the mountains. There Freuler, Wohrer and McCutcheon will need to take over. Although they might not be as plucky as Yzeiraj, their directeur sportif ought to be urging them into the break at every available occasion. Their success thereafter will depend on whether any of the better climbers are allowed to join them.


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★★★☆☆
Inigo Elosegui65777172778083606071656671
Sakari Lehtinen67757365726970606567677060
Tom Dumoulin70586777747568516466655977
Kobe Goossens71717266707470676369717266
Florian Lipowitz62717159637271585970736358
Albin Stalberg63525957627360567169736562
Mathieu La Lavandier66757362737072525363776861
Riccardo Minali73525857707479597979627470
Inigo Elosegui is a lock-in for the youth classification and, with his excellent athleticism, might have a chance at a Top 10 overall. Most of the team is geared to support him, although Lehtinen and La Lavandier will be the two most important domestiques. Then there is Tom Dumoulin and Riccardo Minali. The former will be targeting Stage 10, the latter will have his eyes on the sprints. The front-loading of the flat days means the Italian won't be able to make the most of his strong recovery, but he should still be in contention despite that.

Edited by liefwarrior on 07-10-2023 04:31
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seancoll
Some major competition I'm very happy to have avoided! Chairello should be the favorite assuming the lack of domestiques doesn't hurt him across the 10 days.

Personally, I'm rooting for Marin to grab a sprint stage and Kelly breakaway win after his attacks at TDU.

Surprised to see Sauber here, but it's a fantastic line-up and a great strategic choice on first glance. I'd wager 3 top 10-15 riders in GC if things go their way.

Looking forward to the action!
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TheManxMissile
Might get Top10 GC, but it's not critical. Tachira is a bit of a throw away, lets see what happens, race. At least we should again get the jersey on show, and fingers crossed we're close to our C2 type performance than our C1.

Damn Sauber! Really smart C2 play there actually...
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Imladrik
Guerao only there to maybe grab some points and do the chasing.
Hoping for a top 5. Should be possible with that team.


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Bjartne
I'm not racing here, but I just had to type this.

What an amazing preview! Thank yo uvery much Smile
 
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Laurens147
Thanks lief for the great preview! Grin
Looking forward to this one
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kandesbunzler26
Thanks to lief for your detailed preview, it's always nice to see what's to be expected from all the teams (though I could have do without Saubers squad here Wink).

lief's probably right that it's not exactly APPs kind of race, but I see it as a test if he's capable of fighting for the GC in such a race. And apart from Chiarello and Berhane I don't see many riders who are clearly better than him, so I expect some good stage results and at least a GC Top 10 from him. So there are high hopes to miss heavily Wink
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Blasing
Great preview, great stage 1 review and an even greater result for stage 1. Love it, thank you guys!

I am hoping that Berhane will do well enough in the mountains, to survive the time trial stage. So a top 5 GC woiuld be a lovely start into the season for him. Also with Boudat and Degenkolb already at 25 and 20 points, the green jersey migth be for us to grab. Hope my sprinters keep it up and hope that Berhane makes the team proud in the mountains. Will be a very interesting stage race!
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TheManxMissile
I'll take Kelly sprinting to 12th (lol), but would have preferred to be in a break. Just waiting for the lumpier days.
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Caspi
Only team with 0 stars. Jokes aside, awesome preview! And I'm guessing 2/5 stars for Fresh Cement?
Regardless, we are mostly stage-hunting. Hoping to be competitive both in the sprints and in breakaways on the mountain stages
 
Laurens147
Wow, what a start from Jewa Shock
Congrats Blasing!
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sammyt93
We are obviously here for when the road goes up and want to stamp our mark on a race that has always been kind to us in the past.

Stage 1 we just stayed safe biding our time until the road goes up, congrats to Jewa for the 1-2, maybe not how they planned it but still a dominating performance in the sprint.
 
Imladrik
Stellar start of the race of JEWA! Degenkolb still has it, after all his victories last year.

Guerao getting involved in the sprint is good, maybe he'll take something in the coming days, but the TT and the climbing is what interest us.

Thanks for the report!


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TheManxMissile
Well i'm certainly appreciating Kelly being called out as a dangerous sprinter, even if he really isn't Pfft But with him and Hopkins getting in the Top20 it's at least something minor to cheer for on these opening flat days.
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Laurens147
Such a shame that Liepins couldn't sprint for first place Smile
All credits to Mantez, congrats with your first victory!
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Caspi
Frustrating that Habtom isn't present at all so far. Let's see if we can get a Sprint train up and running for the next stage Smile
 
Ulrich Ulriksen
Yzeiraj is a best, had him on my target list but didn't get to focus on him This and Varga's win in TDU show the rouleurs can be dangerous in these stage races.

Congrats to Blasing on a great 1-2 on stage 1, always a nice way to kick off your team.
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Fabianski
First of all, thanks to lief for that great preview Smile Really cool stuff to get to look at all teams, alongside a rating Smile
I have to admit that personally, I would still love to have an overview of the top GC riders, as I didn't remember all the names I saw before when I arrived at the last team, but that's my personal taste and definitely no issue Wink

Indeed, a great start for JEWA. I'm not overly surprised to see Boudat take the win - would've loved to get him back, as he's really a cool sprinter (although he obiously can't climb at all ^^). Rather surprised to see Degenkolb sprinting into 2nd, I thought his poor backups would be too much of a handicap.

And another great performance by a new team on S2 with Yzeiraj, congrats to Stela-Vita! It's fantastic to have a local rider get your first win - and he did so in style! Only drawback is that he definitely won't be allowed to attack on the next stage Pfft

Thanks for the great reports so far, looking forward to the continuation Smile
 
kandesbunzler26
Congratulations to Blasing and Mantez!
As we don't really have a sprinter here (although Jiang showing himself in the final was nice) it's really nice that the first two stages went to newcomers. And Boudat is indeed a nice sprinter, that's why he was our main pure sprinter target in transfers ...
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Blasing
I cannot be happy with stage 2. Sure we get a top 5 finish and keept the green jersey, but allowing a kind of breakaway win is not what we wanted.
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