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Le Samyn Discussion
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| redordead |
Posted on 22-10-2022 08:38
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Le Samyn is a rather young race on the MG calendar, first debuting in 2018 and now back after a break last year. Placed in Belgium, but not in Flanders it's in the south of the cobble loving country, it still retains most of the typical qualities of cobbled classic. 200 km is a fair distance, but the cobbled sections are mostly flat with asphalt roads providing the elevation. A sprint of a somewhat reduced group is a likely outcome.
With that said let's look at some of the favourites:
| FL | HI | ST | RS | CB | SP | AC |  Stallaert | 77 | 67 | 76 | 68 | 81 | 79 | 76 |  Blythe | 75 | 65 | 74 | 69 | 81 | 75 | 71 |  Vanbilsen | 78 | 69 | 80 | 74 | 80 | 72 | 71 |  Daniel | 73 | 69 | 76 | 76 | 80 | 76 | 72 |  Trentin | 73 | 73 | 74 | 69 | 80 | 74 | 74 |  Bewley | 74 | 67 | 72 | 70 | 79 | 79 | 77 |  Breen | 77 | 70 | 72 | 72 | 78 | 73 | 72 |  David | 74 | 75 | 76 | 74 | 78 | 70 | 73 |  Gaday | 71 | 75 | 75 | 72 | 78 | 71 | 73 |  Gamper | 77 | 66 | 77 | 77 | 78 | 63 | 71 |  Moulingui | 74 | 71 | 71 | 71 | 78 | 65 | 68 | | Owen | 73 | 69 | 73 | 71 | 78 | 64 | 71 |
Stallaert dominated on the cobbles in PCT last year and there is not much inditication he couldn't do the same again. Plus he's the only rider here that can boast of winning this race, as he did back in 2019. His main competitors are quite similar to last year. Blythe can match his CB stat, but falls a bit short everywhere else. Vanbilsen can match Stallaert as an engine, but lacks a bit of sprinting capabilities compared to his compatriot. Daniel and Trentin are both well balanced, but the danger might be the one and only Sam Bewley. The Kiwi is still a top rider and if he can stick around then he is the rider that can outsprint even Stallaert.
| FL | HI | ST | RS | CB | SP | AC |  Kuroeda | 74 | 63 | 72 | 73 | 77 | 74 | 78 |  Zhupa | 75 | 67 | 78 | 74 | 77 | 74 | 68 |  Manamalage | 81 | 59 | 71 | 64 | 77 | 57 | 56 | | Kuroeda | 72 | 70 | 76 | 77 | 76 | 76 | 73 |  Sweeck | 73 | 68 | 71 | 72 | 76 | 70 | 71 | | Rowe | 78 | 66 | 76 | 70 | 75 | 79 | 80 | | De Buyst | 73 | 70 | 73 | 75 | 75 | 76 | 76 |  Van der Haar | 77 | 72 | 70 | 72 | 75 | 72 | 70 | | De Witte | 74 | 68 | 75 | 72 | 75 | 71 | 69 | | Lindeman | 72 | 63 | 70 | 67 | 75 | 73 | 74 | | Lecourt De Billot | 75 | 69 | 74 | 73 | 75 | 61 | 74 |
Skipping a few of the domestiques that may be working for their leaders it's the fast finishers or attackers that could provide an upset. The Kuroeda brothers are both adept at those two things. Zhupa has a decent sprint when he gets up and running. Manamalage definitely needs to look to get up the road at some point. Rowe might be working for his leader Daniel, but he's too good of a rider to ignore if he gets some freedom to attack or get in a sprint.
Full startlist:
Spoiler | Bewley | Sam | Amaysim Cervélo | | Schreurs | Hamish | Amaysim Cervélo | | Monk | Cyrus | Amaysim Cervélo | | Scotson | Callum | Amaysim Cervélo | | Harper | Chris | Amaysim Cervélo | | Wohler | Alex | Amaysim Cervélo | | Culey | Marcus | Amaysim Cervélo | | Christensen | Ryan | Amaysim Cervélo | | Gebremedhin | Awet | Assa Abloy | | Van der Haar | Lars | Assa Abloy | | Gallopin | Tony | Assa Abloy | | Bergstrom Frisk | Hannes | Assa Abloy | | Magnusson | Kim | Assa Abloy | | Kvist | Linus | Assa Abloy | | Magnussen | Davur | Assa Abloy | | Bergstrom Frisk | Erik | Assa Abloy | | Blythe | Adam | Binance | | Van Lerberghe | Bert | Binance | | Bush | Robert | Binance | | Venturini | Clement | Binance | | Palyi | Csaba | Binance | | Seigle | Roman | Binance | | Noppe | Christophe | Binance | | Wirtgen | Luc | Binance | | Stallaert | Joeri | Bralirwa - Stevens | | Okbamariam | Tesfom | Bralirwa - Stevens | | Mugisha | Moise | Bralirwa - Stevens | | Lauk | Karl Patrick | Bralirwa - Stevens | | Mengoulas | Alex | Bralirwa - Stevens | | Menicucci | Samuele | Bralirwa - Stevens | | Debesay | Yacob | Bralirwa - Stevens | | Uhiriwe | Renus | Bralirwa - Stevens | | Trentin | Matteo | Carlsberg - Danske Bank | | Lander | Sebastian | Carlsberg - Danske Bank | | Resell | Erik Nordsaeter | Carlsberg - Danske Bank | | Mestric | Matija | Carlsberg - Danske Bank | | Girmay | Biniam | Carlsberg - Danske Bank | | Krigbaum | Mathias | Carlsberg - Danske Bank | | Forssell | Hugo | Carlsberg - Danske Bank | | Cannister | Goldwijnn | Carlsberg - Danske Bank | | Kung | Stefan | Crabbe-CC Chevigny | | Tsatevich | Alexey | Crabbe-CC Chevigny | | Liepins | Emils | Crabbe-CC Chevigny | | Campenaerts | Victor | Crabbe-CC Chevigny | | Drizners | Jarrad | Crabbe-CC Chevigny | | Blouwe | Louis | Crabbe-CC Chevigny | | Donovan | Mark | Crabbe-CC Chevigny | | Van Tricht | Stan | Crabbe-CC Chevigny | | Kittel | Marcel | Gjensidige Pro Cycling Team | | Skjerping | Kristoffer | Gjensidige Pro Cycling Team | | Arensman | Thymen | Gjensidige Pro Cycling Team | | Hvideberg | Jonas Iversby | Gjensidige Pro Cycling Team | | Christakos | Dimitrios | Gjensidige Pro Cycling Team | | Knotten | Iver Johan | Gjensidige Pro Cycling Team | | Ulysbayev | Dinmukhammed | Gjensidige Pro Cycling Team | | Lunder | Eirik | Gjensidige Pro Cycling Team | | Rowe | Luke | HelloFresh - Lampre | | Daniel | Maxime | HelloFresh - Lampre | | Van Keirsbulck | Guillaume | HelloFresh - Lampre | | Vingerling | Michael | HelloFresh - Lampre | | Thwaites | Scott | HelloFresh - Lampre | | Riesebeek | Oscar | HelloFresh - Lampre | | Kumara | Amith Udaya | HelloFresh - Lampre | | Battistella | Samuele | HelloFresh - Lampre | | Gani | Abdul | Indosat Ooredoo | | Novak | Jakub | Indosat Ooredoo | | Gall | Felix | Indosat Ooredoo | | Yudha | Muhammad | Indosat Ooredoo | | Rubio | Einer Augusto | Indosat Ooredoo | | Ocampo | Victor Alejandro | Indosat Ooredoo | | Bilbao | Pello | Kraftwerk Man Machine | | De Buyst | Jasper | Kraftwerk Man Machine | | Rumac | Josip | Kraftwerk Man Machine | | Zhupa | Eugert | Kraftwerk Man Machine | | Chaiyasombat | Thanakhan | Kraftwerk Man Machine | | Walsleben | Max | Kraftwerk Man Machine | | Mathis | Marco | Kraftwerk Man Machine | | Vernon | Ethan | Kraftwerk Man Machine | | Gamper | Patrick | Lierse SK - Pizza Ullo PCTeam | | Aleotti | Giovanni | Lierse SK - Pizza Ullo PCTeam | | Verhelst | Louis | Lierse SK - Pizza Ullo PCTeam | | Biermans | Jenthe | Lierse SK - Pizza Ullo PCTeam | | Verwilst | Aaron | Lierse SK - Pizza Ullo PCTeam | | Siddikov | Dilmurdjon | Lierse SK - Pizza Ullo PCTeam | | Van Aert | Wout | Lierse SK - Pizza Ullo PCTeam | | Covi | Alessandro | Lierse SK - Pizza Ullo PCTeam | | Sweeck | Laurens | Minions - Subwoolfer | | Marcos | Leandro | Minions - Subwoolfer | | De Witte | Mathias | Minions - Subwoolfer | | Stuyven | Jasper | Minions - Subwoolfer | | Tikhonin | Evgenii | Minions - Subwoolfer | | Coppel | Jerome | Minions - Subwoolfer | | Novikov | Savva | Minions - Subwoolfer | | Merchan | Didier | Minions - Subwoolfer | | Van Asbroeck | Tom | Philips - Force India | | Kuroeda | Saya | Philips - Force India | | Kuroeda | Shiki | Philips - Force India | | Dumoulin | Tom | Philips - Force India | | McLay | Dan | Philips - Force India | | Stoltz | Yannick | Philips - Force India | | Van Dijke | Mick | Philips - Force India | | Moulingui | Clenne Morvan | Project: Africa | | Lecourt De Billot | Olivier | Project: Africa | | Van Heerden | Eddie | Project: Africa | | Visser | Louis | Project: Africa | | Awuku | Frank | Project: Africa | | Kusi | Clement | Project: Africa | | Broxham | Ricardo | Project: Africa | | Nzafashwanayo | Jean Claude | Project: Africa | | Halvorsen | Kristoffer | Red Bull Zalgiris | | Räim | Mihkel | Red Bull Zalgiris | | Lasinis | Venantas | Red Bull Zalgiris | | Consonni | Simone | Red Bull Zalgiris | | Cabanas | Oscar | Red Bull Zalgiris | | Li | Wen Hao | Red Bull Zalgiris | | Tediashvili | Giorgi | Red Bull Zalgiris | | Januskevicius | Mantas | Red Bull Zalgiris | | David | Tom | Sauber Petronas Racing | | Schoonbroodt | Bob | Sauber Petronas Racing | | Marzuki | Nur Amirul | Sauber Petronas Racing | | Ghani | Muhammad Suhaimi | Sauber Petronas Racing | | Maccagli | Andrea Enrico | Sauber Petronas Racing | | Rossi | Diego | Sauber Petronas Racing | | Voisard | Yannis | Sauber Petronas Racing | | Antonelli | Michael | Sauber Petronas Racing | | Gaday | Lucas Manuel | Strava | | Owen | Logan | Strava | | Sbaragli | Kristian | Strava | | Sanikwathi | Thanawut | Strava | | Nielsen | Joanis Albert | Strava | | Lindeman | Bert-Jan | Strava | | Debusschere | Jens | Strava | | Breen | Vegard | Tafjord Kraft | | Bertilsson | Christian | Tafjord Kraft | | Waersted | Syver | Tafjord Kraft | | Bugge | Vegard Robinson | Tafjord Kraft | | Andersson | Emil | Tafjord Kraft | | Lindau | Philip | Tafjord Kraft | | Pruus | Peter | Tafjord Kraft | | Redecker | Heiko | Team Popo4Ever p/b Morshynska | | Manamalage | Nipuna Shira | Team Popo4Ever p/b Morshynska | | Varga | Peter | Team Popo4Ever p/b Morshynska | | Orlov | Andriy | Team Popo4Ever p/b Morshynska | | Papanov | Martin | Team Popo4Ever p/b Morshynska | | Zumer | Matic | Team Popo4Ever p/b Morshynska | | Christapopoulos | Pangiotis | Team Popo4Ever p/b Morshynska | | Parashchak | Yaroslav | Team Popo4Ever p/b Morshynska | | Vanbilsen | Kenneth | Trans Looney Tunes | | Kolev | Iliyan | Trans Looney Tunes | | Vanspeybrouck | Pieter | Trans Looney Tunes | | Schlechter | Pit | Trans looney Tunes | | Abraha | Tesfay | Trans Looney Tunes | | Centrone | Ivan | Trans Looney Tunes | | Sobrero | Matteo | Trans Looney Tunes | | Doull | Owain | Trans Looney Tunes | | Naud | Patrick | Volcanica - Fox | | Herrera | Erick | Volcanica - Fox | | Jurado | Cristofer Robin | Volcanica - Fox | | Huertas | Jason | Volcanica - Fox | | Chumil | Sergio | Volcanica - Fox | | Mendoza | Bryan Fernando | Volcanica - Fox | | Arias Villanueva | Sergio | Volcanica - Fox | | Samudio | Joseph Ivan | Volcanica - Fox | | Lyu | Xianjing | Voyagin - Bird | | Cheung | King Lok | Voyagin - Bird | | Plucinski | Leszek | Voyagin - Bird | | Polnicky | Jiri | Voyagin - Bird | | Oka | Atsushi | Voyagin - Bird | | Yamamoto | Masaki | Voyagin - Bird | | Matsuda | Shoi | Voyagin - Bird | | Novardianto | Jamalidin | Xero Racing | | Vermeersch | Florian | Xero Racing | | Hamza | Yacine | Xero Racing | | Schomber | Nils | Xero Racing | | Young | Darren | Xero Racing | | Strong | Corbin | Xero Racing | | Gough | Regan | Xero Racing | | Van Wilder | Ilan | Xero Racing | | Hofstetter | Hugo | Zara - Irizar | | Finkler | Leonardo Henrique | Zara - Irizar | | Hesters | Jules | Zara - Irizar | | De La Cruz Chapulin | Luis Fernando | Zara - Irizar | | Cardona | Julian | Zara - Irizar | | Miquel | Pau | Zara - Irizar | | Sam | Henry Alberto | Zara - Irizar | | Vandevelde | Yentl | Zara - Irizar |
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| jandal7 |
Posted on 22-10-2022 09:04
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Third cobbled race for us, one great and one anonymous (find it hard to be too down about that considering what the expectations are, but would have liked a breakaway). Let's see what this one brings  Thanks for the preview red!
Also just realised looking in our HQ after this and the end of Portugal we only have one race until the middle of April. So might like to do something memorable for that occasion 
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11/06/24 - knockout said "Winning is fine I guess. Truth be told this felt completely unimportant."
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| tsmoha |
Posted on 22-10-2022 09:09
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Surely a race, where we expect Bewley to deliver a podium or not much less! No pressure, Sam 
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| Marcovdw |
Posted on 22-10-2022 11:09
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More cobbles, yay!
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| Ollfardh |
Posted on 22-10-2022 11:51
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Gamper has been so good this season, I'll settle for a top 10!
Changed my sig, this was getting absurd.
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| cunego59 |
Posted on 22-10-2022 12:07
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Make it 3 for 3, Joeri!
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| whitejersey |
Posted on 22-10-2022 12:54
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Multiple scenarios in play for us today hopefully we get another top 3.
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| baseballlover312 |
Posted on 22-10-2022 14:08
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We need more hills in these races.
Similar startlist and setup to Omloop, with Bewley added in. I expect it to be a little easier and sprint to matter a little more. Top 5 like Omloop is the goal, hopefully with at least one of our other guys scoring too.
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| AbhishekLFC |
Posted on 23-10-2022 08:00
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Will take a repeat of Omloop. All cobbles races are mostly an experiment this time.
Thanks for the preview Red
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| DaveTwoBob |
Posted on 23-10-2022 10:43
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If Zhupa can repeat his Omloop top 10 I will be delighted.
Thanks for the preview red.
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| Bjartne |
Posted on 23-10-2022 18:37
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Really really happy with 4th here. Finally we've got a great start to the season
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| Ollfardh |
Posted on 23-10-2022 18:50
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Well, a lesser race was bound to happen. A very weird result though!
Changed my sig, this was getting absurd.
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| tsmoha |
Posted on 23-10-2022 18:58
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Great stuff from our team (Schreurs and Monk, as it seems) to control the race until the decisive moves happened. Bewley with a perfect position then and a somewhat dominating sprint for the win! Glad to see him winning for the team, he always belonged to
Thanks for the report!
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| whitejersey |
Posted on 23-10-2022 18:59
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Congrats to tsmoha on the win, a bit of a weird race but we control our losses pretty well here with three riders in the top 12 at least, securing us a solid points haul. Thanks for the report.
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| baseballlover312 |
Posted on 23-10-2022 19:05
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Race stayed together a lot longer than I expected, and I became a little worried it wasn't gonna break up. Not that I wouldn't have a good option in Lander if it did come to a sprint, but Trentin was our main guy.
Really happy with his third place here. He followed the moves attentively and went for the sprint, just like he should. In that scenario Bewley was always going to be stronger, and David followed the right wheel. I'm really happy with a podium. Trentin is doing better now after that awful Franceville. A couple more minor placings would still be nice, but I'm happy with our scoring here for sure.
Thanks for the report redordead and congrats to tsmoha!
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| Fabianski |
Posted on 23-10-2022 19:51
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Bewley just doing Bewley things, no matter his age. Great win, congrats tsmoha!
Really happy to see David delivering for Sauber as well, and Trentin delivering is nice to see after some worrying results! And obviously a great outcome for Tafjord, too, with Breen taking 4th.
No clue however why Stallaert just didn't follow the important moves; maybe he just relied too much on his team which wasn't strong enough. But I guess a non-win was bound to happen sooner or later
Thanks to red for a great report of some nice racing, was fun to follow
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| sammyt93 |
Posted on 23-10-2022 21:51
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A second second place finish for David in 2 races for us is really nice to see. He's helping us get points on the board early in our attempt to survive.
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| Shonak |
Posted on 23-10-2022 22:20
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Think we could have played it better given the numbers we had but nice to see Owen get a good result nonetheless and some riders in the top 20.
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| jandal7 |
Posted on 23-10-2022 22:40
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We love a Kiwi 1-2 <3
24/02/21 - kandesbunzler said “I don't drink famous people."
15/08/22 - SotD said "Your [jandal's] humour is overrated"
11/06/24 - knockout said "Winning is fine I guess. Truth be told this felt completely unimportant."
[ICL] Santos-Euskadi | [PT] Xero Racing
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| Marcovdw |
Posted on 23-10-2022 23:02
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We got a few points!
Thanks for the report redordead and congrats tsmoha!
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