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Berlin ProRace Discussion
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If there is ever a race for the sprinters then the Berlin ProRace is surely it. Virtually flat from start to finish, it is expected that a mass sprint will decide the victor in this HC. race.

Race Favourites:

FLATSPRINTACC.
i439.photobucket.com/albums/qq112/Gustavovskiy/microjerseys14/pum.pngCiolek758379
i439.photobucket.com/albums/qq112/Gustavovskiy/microjerseys14/qst.pngVantomme738278
i439.photobucket.com/albums/qq112/Gustavovskiy/microjerseys14/bbk.pngCavendish738281
i439.photobucket.com/albums/qq112/Gustavovskiy/microjerseys14/ozc.pngGoss748278
i439.photobucket.com/albums/qq112/Gustavovskiy/microjerseys14/rbc.pngVanderbiest748177
i439.photobucket.com/albums/qq112/Gustavovskiy/microjerseys14/ven.pngVan Staeyen768177
i439.photobucket.com/albums/qq112/Gustavovskiy/microjerseys14/afr.pngMaksimov728184
i439.photobucket.com/albums/qq112/Gustavovskiy/microjerseys14/cal.pngHolloway788082
i439.photobucket.com/albums/qq112/Gustavovskiy/microjerseys14/ven.pngCorioni748076
i439.photobucket.com/albums/qq112/Gustavovskiy/microjerseys14/pbn.pngGreipel748078


After a recent victory in the Melaka Governor's cup, in similar terrain against similar opposition, i439.photobucket.com/albums/qq112/Gustavovskiy/microjerseys14/pum.png Ciolek starts as favourite for a team where anything but a win is unacceptable. However, i439.photobucket.com/albums/qq112/Gustavovskiy/microjerseys14/pum.png Team Puma - SAP certainly don't bring the strongest lead-out to support the home favourite and therefore may struggle to control the race in the final.

i439.photobucket.com/albums/qq112/Gustavovskiy/microjerseys14/ven.png Venchi - Ferranti will be looking to follow up their win at Race Horizon Park, i439.photobucket.com/albums/qq112/Gustavovskiy/microjerseys14/ven.png Van Staeyen should be there or thereabouts if there is a bunch sprint and he is abily supported by i439.photobucket.com/albums/qq112/Gustavovskiy/microjerseys14/ven.png Corioni and i439.photobucket.com/albums/qq112/Gustavovskiy/microjerseys14/ven.png Van Avermaet.

i439.photobucket.com/albums/qq112/Gustavovskiy/microjerseys14/bbk.png BelarusBank Pro Cycling rode a great race in Malaysia, however, i439.photobucket.com/albums/qq112/Gustavovskiy/microjerseys14/bbk.png Cavendish couldn't finish it off, will he fare better here with a pan-flat run in?

i439.photobucket.com/albums/qq112/Gustavovskiy/microjerseys14/ozc.png Oz Cycling Project will expect i439.photobucket.com/albums/qq112/Gustavovskiy/microjerseys14/ozc.png Goss to finish on the podium, but there are plenty of sprinters who are more than capable of challenging for a top3 here.

The Rouleurs:

FLATSTAMINA
i439.photobucket.com/albums/qq112/Gustavovskiy/microjerseys14/abc.pngMaes8079
i439.photobucket.com/albums/qq112/Gustavovskiy/microjerseys14/pbn.pngVaitkus7874
i439.photobucket.com/albums/qq112/Gustavovskiy/microjerseys14/ozc.pngDel Nero7878
i439.photobucket.com/albums/qq112/Gustavovskiy/microjerseys14/gzl.pngNuyens7776


These riders will be prominent in the racing at the end of the race if hard conditions arise. All four have already proven they can attack late on in stages and may well feature in Berlin.

i439.photobucket.com/albums/qq112/Gustavovskiy/microjerseys14/b3b.png Boeing-Bulgaria Bicycling and i439.photobucket.com/albums/qq112/Gustavovskiy/microjerseys14/gzl.png Gazelle simply have to make the breakaway as it is unlikely they will do anything, top20, in the sprint.

In this HC. race we only see pro-continental teams take the startlist.

We leave you with the startlist and the fact that:

- 31 riders here have 78 or higher in sprint!

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SportingNonsense
If there is ever a race for the sprinters then the Berlin ProRace is surely it.


Nah, breakaway to win Pfft
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TheManxMissile
Hey, never underestimate Chicchi.... oh right it's Chicchi... Top100 target it is!
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roturn
Sprinter win!

Ciolek for me to win this I hope. Home classic.
Greipel would be a nice bet as well.

And last but not least Vantomme, who would be my 3rd favourite. Pfft


I like this race a lot. Usually try to be at the road side for the annual event and this might even be my created version in case it`s not Bigggasssi`s version.
 
Alakagom
Should be a ridiculous race. I don't expect much, Top 5 would do.
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tsmoha
Come on Gossy! Just do it!

Del Nero though would be cool, too Pfft
 
cio93
Our obvious win goal this season.


No Meiji in this band was the best news of HC selection, so with the home bonus, a straight sprint should really have a promising outcome.

That said, sprint train. Well I don't see 73/75/75/73 flat and 74/75/76/77 sprint leading out Ciolek as bad as the preview puts it.
Holloway is worse off, Vantomme is worse off, Cav not really better, Goss is worse off, Vanderbiest does have Docker indeed, Privatbank lives for good trains but can hardly assemble their strongest one, granted that Maksimov has a fine one, and let's not talk too much about Venchi anyway.

We should be equipped well enough, and if the often rumoured case of the best three sprinters getting trains is true, we are tied best among 82+ riders.


Of course, 31 good sprinters doesn't mean a lot as we all know 15 of those won't even sprint.
Still, that should hopefully mean enough interest in a bunch finish, fuck up the AI completely for the rest of the season if you want, but not here please.
 
aidanvn13
Top 5 race goal for us, so that is what's expected. I'm really hoping a breakaway doesn't win this. That would be a damper.
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viking90
Well a result from this race would suprise me a lot Pfft
 
fjhoekie
Brought 4 of the 31... Would be shocked if none of them could get some sort of a result...

If we happen to make a train (unlikely) I hope Kobe won't fuck us up (unlikely). If we don't make a train we could well get 4 guys in the top 15... Or we could see Vaitkus trying a solo... Or if a break should make it, I hope either Lima or Abakoumov is in it...
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jph27
Sandakelum breakaway win please Pfft
 
Mhaley45
AMEXpc's history of success in sprint classics has been miserable. We have little chance of success with the PCT's top sprinters all on the starting line. We do need to see some progress. Two of our young sprinters are Germans (Selig & Reinhardt) along with them is a solid flats domestique Kurth and two cobblers Eisel & Breschel.

Our top sprinter Paride Grillo (ESP) is on good form but he has not shown he can explode out of a pack to challenge for PCT level podiums. Our goals are simple (1) Keep Grillo in contention to the final 3 kilometers and hope he can tag along on one of the better sprint trains.

Our 2nd goal is get someone in the day's breakaway in the hopes they can steal a finish away from the sprinters. Matti Breschel rides the flats well and has the stamina and the sprinting to do damage if he gets into the breakaway. Here's hoping!
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valverde321
This HC Sprinters classic better not be the only one of the season without crappy AI or else Im going to be angry Pfft
 
fintas
valverde321 wrote:
This HC Sprinters classic better not be the only one of the season without crappy AI or else Im going to be angry Pfft

I disagree with you because the Down Under Classic had an excellent AI and a fair winnerCool
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jt1109
Can't see anything good happening here soo to sum up my season Vanderbiest will finish 26th
 
DubbelDekker
This is basically a training ride for us. But you never know; we might get lucky with some breakaway success.
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cio93
That might have cost us promotion next season with the budget points lost there. If we even stay PCT. I'm so done with 13. Anyone wants my sprinters? Yard sale.
 
roturn
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Alakagom
I can't be sad since Vantomme failed anyway Pfft

Shame about the AI though...ridiculous. But dayum Heinkenen always seem to pick the right breaks, even when having a favoruite in the race. I wish my riders did that more too xD

Sucks for Puma, missing a goal completely is never nice..
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jph27
cio93 wrote:
That might have cost us promotion next season with the budget points lost there. If we even stay PCT. I'm so done with 13. Anyone wants my sprinters? Yard sale.


I'll take Demare and Bar! Pfft

Shit luck there cio, as someone with experience of misfiring sprinters I feel your pain. This AI is horrible.

20 pprd for us here isn't bad - although I'd have liked Sandakelum, Carsi or Altanzul in the break instead of Boroš. Still, I'll take it in a race where I expected to struggle.
 
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