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| Kami |
Posted on 13-02-2011 15:24
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After the last HC stage race of the season, it's time for the last flat HC classic. From Britain we move overseas to Hamburg in Germany for the Vattenfall Classic.
216km of riding trough Germany. It's rated as flat, but that isn't a guarantee that a sprinter will get the win at the end of the day. With the steep tricky hills near the end, there might be a few puncheurs who fancy their chances and launch an attack. Or why not a rouleur on the last flat part?
The contender field here is immense. It looks more like a PT race when it comes to sprinters. Vantomme, Van Heerden, Goss, Swift, Rowe, Mohs, ...
Vespa however, decide to bring out their classic team again, with Steegmans as their leader. If he wants to win, he should attack rather then relying on his sprint. The best team's for a lead-out are 100% ME and Pokerstars. 100% ME got Kennaugh and Cavendish to lead-out Swift. Pokerstars got Kluge and Dumoulin. But that is, if it comes down to a sprint!
A possible top 5 is hard to predict, but this might be something:
| 1. | Juan Van Heerden | | 2. | Gerald Ciolek | | 3. | Ben Swift | | 4. | Maxim Vantomme | | 5. | Luke Rowe |
Van Heerden has had some very good results so far in sprint classics. Ciolek is riding on home ground. Swift has the best lead-out train and Vantomme and Rowe are two top sprinters. Steegmans and Goss just suck lately and Mohs might get tired from the hills (although he didn't last year  ).
Starlist Spoiler Vespa
1. G.Steegmans
2. V.Bastaens
3. A.Cappelle
4. C.Cassidy
5. M.Gavazzi
6. A.Pagoto
7. A.Proni
8. M.Quinziato
HighRoad
11. M.Vantomme
12. D.Atapuma
13. K.Boeckmans
14. B.Day
15. D.Devenyns
16. M.Elijzen
17. J.Ghyselinck
18. R.Ruijgh
100Me
21. B.Swift
22. S.Bennett
23. M.Cavendish
24. R.Downing
25. P.Kennaugh
26. D.Lloyd
27. N.Roche
28. J.Sergent
Pokerstars
31. E.Mohs
32. D.Boucher
33. S.Clement
34. J.Degenkolb
35. S.Dumoulin
36. A.Geslin
37. R.Kluge
38. N.Terpstra
Wiggle
41. L.Rowe
42. T.Diggle
43. C.Grippo
44. S.Locatelli
45. M.Pavarin
46. P.Scarponi
47. R.Tanguy
48. J.Tiernan-Locke
Pendleton's
51. J.Van Heerden
52. C.Abdallah
53. B.Bozic
54. T.Kennaugh
55. M.Ladagnous
56. M.McNally
57. N.Sijmens
58. F.Willems
Bacardi
61. M.Goss
62. A.Gajek
63. J.Kocjan
64. A.Kruopis
65. A.Kuchinski
66. J.Nazon
67. G.Smukulis
68. E.Sokolov
Quiksilver
71. A.Davis
72. F.Cruz
73. A.Flickinger
74. H.Godfrey
75. M.Griffith
76. G.Nizzolo
77. S.Scheirlinckx
78. B.Selander
LEGO
81. G.Ciolek
82. J.Hochmann
83. G.Lequatre
84. F.Rabon
85. S.Radochla
86. P.Rooijakkers
87. A.Stauff
88. R.Weissinger
Milka
91. T.Hushovd
92. J.Casper
93. T.De Gendt
94. J.Forero
95. L.Howard
96. A.Malori
97. A.Nepomnyachsniy
98. M.Vanderaerden
Santander
101. F.Ventoso
102. J.Del Nero
103. A.Durán
104. A.Galdos
105. J.Gallego Martin
106. O.Guerao
107. J.Gárate
108. R.Serrano
Telenor
111. T.Vaitkus
112. R.Chtioui
113. X.Florencio
114. R.Guldhammer
115. O.Haavardsholm
116. F.Sabatini
117. S.Siedler
118. R.Te Brake
Petronas
121. L.Croket
122. A.Awang
123. G.Bole
124. R.Feillu
125. W.Jallays
126. K.Lalouette
127. M.Ramos Gamez
128. R.Scholz
Falcon
131. F.Chicchi
132. M.Bäckstedt
133. J.Guarnieri
134. T.Gudsell
135. M.Jamieson
136. C.Van Heerden
137. K.Van Hummel
138. T.Vangheel
Pirelli
141. A.Loddo
142. L.Bernucci
143. D.Caccia
144. G.Cheula
145. M.Iannetti
146. S.Masciarelli
147. L.Paolini
148. J.Perry
Mercedes
151. J.Haedo
152. E.Baumann
153. A.Brea
154. W.Frischkorn
155. S.Nydam
156. B.Sinner
157. T.Tolleson
158. E.Weiss
Intesa
161. Y.Hutarovich
162. M.Bandiera
163. C.Cucinotta
164. M.Delage
165. E.Girardi
166. P.Mertens
167. C.Salerno
168. R.Sentjens
Red Bull
171. Y.Arashiro
172. J.Augustyn
173. J.Ball
174. F.Beppu
175. A.Garcia Rincon
176. A.Hansen
177. A.Jelloul
178. C.Manarelli
EL AL
181. S.Lagutin
182. M.Burlutsky
183. N.Cohen
184. Y.Doi
185. D.Eliad
186. S.Haimy
187. K.Inoue
188. G.Rast
Control
191. T.Boonratanathanakorn
192. S.Batchelor
193. K.Michely
194. A.Niyonshuti
The race will be posted when Smowz is done with the Canadian races and GP de Wallonie.
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| wackojackohighcliffe |
Posted on 13-02-2011 15:55
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Would be nice to see Juan win here - ages since he did anything noteworthy. |
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| Roman |
Posted on 13-02-2011 16:09
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My last season goal - top 5.. I have Thor Huhovd, Jimmy Casper, Juan Forero and Michael Vanderaerden here, so I have to hope for a top 5 result, but it will be a big lottery, my tip for the winner is Matt Goss.
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| rycadinho |
Posted on 13-02-2011 16:15
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Weak field, Loddo should win easy.
Or perhaps not, but I can always dream..
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| Smowz |
Posted on 13-02-2011 16:19
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Anywhere near the top ten and I will be happy  Very tough race this one to call - even I am a bit lost trying to make a prediction.
Oh go on then I will go for ...
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| fenian_1234 |
Posted on 13-02-2011 17:13
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Pity the race is not a bit longer - Steegmans would have a better chance then. The team should be fairly fresh as well in the run in as not being a favourite should mean no chasing. No doubt the AI will use Cassidy to give him a lead out at that point. |
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| beagle |
Posted on 13-02-2011 17:46
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looking forward to this one a lot...but with such strong field here, I can see many riders with highest ambitions...would be great, if Mohs could repeat his win from last year though 
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| Heine |
Posted on 14-02-2011 11:10
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Vaitkus is a bit weak in this field, but still got my hopes for a good results, or maybe I will take the shock breakaway again? Been lucky with those in the flat classics
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| Kami |
Posted on 15-02-2011 17:13
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Race will probably be posted later tonight.
Edited by Kami on 15-02-2011 17:14
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| wackojackohighcliffe |
Posted on 15-02-2011 18:58
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ahh so close... but still good. |
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| mb2612 |
Posted on 15-02-2011 18:59
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Ventoso, you are by definition useless.
Seriously, WTF, you just have to be on Del Nero's wheel and you clean up. 56th is a joke.
That said, 5th is still a decent result for me
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| rycadinho |
Posted on 15-02-2011 19:08
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146 Alberto Loddo Pirelli-Internazionale + 4'59
Best man Bernucci, not even in top 50... epic fail!
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| Rin |
Posted on 15-02-2011 19:26
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$%§#!!!
no its not japanese
Edited by Rin on 15-02-2011 19:27
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| Smowz |
Posted on 15-02-2011 19:54
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Ciolek - excellent German sprinter who should be able to survive those climbs - like WHA???
Goss takes the win and surely that will take Bacardi into the Protour - Van Heerden also very consistent really. Milka likewise look like they could be candidates for a top five spot.
HC company has blown Red Bull's squad away again - showing that I really do need to sign riders of more quality next season.. and perhaps eye up some good transfer deals!
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| Roman |
Posted on 15-02-2011 19:56
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Goal failed..
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| fenian_1234 |
Posted on 15-02-2011 20:27
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Steegmans and Pagoto both get caught again, Vespa's plan has failed. Delage is still alone in front.
That gave me a good laugh. Vespa with a plan.
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| Kami |
Posted on 15-02-2011 21:18
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It was a strange race, but in the end, you won't hear me complaining . I was begging for Goss to position himself well. Then the sprint came, and Goss (with Rowe, Vantomme and Vanheerden) was nowhere. This really should have been an easy win for 100% ME, but the sprint bug counted them out. Then Vanheerden pulled Goss, Rowe and Vantomme to the front and it really was a very close call.
Also, i have absolutely no clue what happened to Ciolek. He just quit ... Strange, considering he had a really good shot to make the podium or even win imo.
@ fenian: I checked the replay, and they were riding, even relaying each other. The gap was closed by Santander on one of the little hills.
@ mb: While i was rewatching a little part of the replay for fenian, i noticed that Ventoso was also chasing Steegmans ... Not for long, but might have something to do with it. But still, you should be happy with 5th (like you said). A lot of teams really came bad out of this race.
@ Smowz: I hope so, but Goss is so strange. He has won 2 sprint classics this season, and failed completely in all the others. He still has Franco Belge and Piemonte/Paris Tours left. Hope he can atleast do some good sprinting in Franco Belge.
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| mb2612 |
Posted on 15-02-2011 21:24
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Kami wrote:
@ mb: While i was rewatching a little part of the replay for fenian, i noticed that Ventoso was also chasing Steegmans ... Not for long, but might have something to do with it. But still, you should be happy with 5th (like you said). A lot of teams really came bad out of this race.
I suspect he tried to follow Guerao or Galdos, as they both ended up near him and they could have been killed by the hills.
Top 5 is a very solid result, 30 points per race day is fairly good, it's just disappointing that all my real sprinters failed again
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| Rin |
Posted on 15-02-2011 21:25
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Can I sue Ciolek?
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| SportingNonsense |
Posted on 15-02-2011 21:50
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Citing this as another example as why I refuse to continue the ManGame in PCM09 next season.
Id be annoyed, but I expected a fail such as this
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