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Sky Doping/Hate Thread
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| jph27 |
Posted on 11-07-2012 14:17
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https://www.cyclingnews.com/news/sky-i...es-no-risk
Fair play to Sky, whether they find anything we'll see. |
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| samdiatmh |
Posted on 11-07-2012 14:18
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not sure if mentioned
but Sky are investigating their own doctor
https://www.cyclin...es-no-risk
edit: damn, beaten by the above post 
Edited by samdiatmh on 11-07-2012 16:17
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| CountArach |
Posted on 11-07-2012 14:20
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How pointless. Internal investigations serve no real purpose except to look good in the media.
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| sutty68 |
Posted on 11-07-2012 14:20
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Fair play to David Brailsford for this investigation 
If anything looks dodgy then get rid of him (the doctor) |
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| Rin |
Posted on 11-07-2012 14:24
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I think thats :S to see.. I think the cycling people should implement a BMI system like at ski jumping or so because thats just.. They are sportsmen and look like some ugly models..
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| Likkivi |
Posted on 11-07-2012 15:13
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It's so funny that some people are naiv enough to think SKY has some revolutionary training scheme that makes them so much better than anyone else.
Wiggins are mediocre bike riders with very BAD aerodynamic body types for climbing. They are no ideal talents for this.
Don't you think many riders have a training plan that they take very serious. SKY is no more dedicated than anyone else.
They are obviously just full of dope. Their whole attitude sells it so obvious. |
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| felix_29 |
Posted on 11-07-2012 15:19
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Likkivi wrote:
It's so funny that some people are naiv enough to think SKY has some revolutionary training scheme that makes them so much better than anyone else.
Wiggins are mediocre bike riders with very BAD aerodynamic body types for climbing. They are no ideal talents for this.
Don't you think many riders have a training plan that they take very serious. SKY is no more dedicated than anyone else.
They are obviously just full of dope. Their whole attitude sells it so obvious.
That doesn´t make sense, having an aerodynamic position uphill is unimportant. And even with his size he can have a very good areodynamic position for TTs, as have Martin and Cancellara.
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| samdiatmh |
Posted on 11-07-2012 15:33
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as a former pursuit rider, i'd say he has a damn good position |
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| Stijn_vranken |
Posted on 11-07-2012 16:00
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Sky of today = US Postal of some time ago?
e.g. Hamilton, Landis, ....
prevent hangovers --> stay drunk
pozzato, basically the most stupid cyclist around
RIP WW. Gone but not forgotten
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| Likkivi |
Posted on 11-07-2012 16:33
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It was funny to see US Postal helping UK Postal in the end.
Porte casually wheeled in any breakaway. PORTE. RICHIE PORTE. |
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| Smal |
Posted on 11-07-2012 16:38
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apart from that's not true at all |
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| baseballlover312 |
Posted on 11-07-2012 16:42
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Likkivi wrote:
It was funny to see US Postal helping UK Postal in the end.
Porte casually wheeled in any breakaway. PORTE. RICHIE PORTE.
Porte was on the front for 25 km, and not even a sweat.
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| issoisso |
Posted on 11-07-2012 17:39
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Ian Butler wrote:
TheManxMissile wrote:
Ian Butler wrote:
Are you all kidding me? A thread about Sky and doping because they're currently owning TDF? Really?
apparently that means they must all be so doped they can barely live and are comparable in their evil to the devil himself 
Yeah, there can't be any other explanation, it's not just an amazingly strong team with great riders and a lot of money, no, definitely doping...
Have you read the whole thread? There's tons of stuff that absolutely stinks on this team.
From the crooked doping doctor, to the insane overnight transformation of riders from also rans to superstars (lose tons of weight and massively IMPROVE your time trialling? what? impossible), to many of them being listed by the UCI's blood passport people as "Overwhelming evidence of doping, to Rogers claiming he's doing better power numbers than ever when he's been on pretty heavy doping programs before....
TheManxMissile wrote:
Armstrong depends on when you think he did start to dope (i know he did)
Aside from the doping on the Motorola team where he started his career being detailed by rider Steve Swart, I'll also note Lance's nickname in his early days in the peloton was "Cortisone Neck". Also Betsy Andreu's testimony.
He was doping way before. He just wasn't working with Dr. Ferrari or Bruyneel
felix_29 wrote:
That doesn´t make sense, having an aerodynamic position uphill is unimportant. And even with his size he can have a very good areodynamic position for TTs, as have Martin and Cancellara.
This. Aero position is irrelevant when climbing.
baseballlover312 wrote:
Likkivi wrote:
It was funny to see US Postal helping UK Postal in the end.
Porte casually wheeled in any breakaway. PORTE. RICHIE PORTE.
Porte was on the front for 25 km, and not even a sweat.
Responded to VDB's attacks, then closed a one minute gap to Nibali alone.
And I thought it couldn't get any more ridiculous.
Then again, after Brailsford uses the death of an innocent to justify hiring a doping doctor, I'm not sure anything about this team surprises me anymore (or is "Disgusts" the word?)
Stijn_vranken wrote:
Sky of today = US Postal of some time ago?
Don't say that. Apparently only Wiggins is allowed to make that comparison, like he did a few weeks ago with a smile on his face.
When a journalist made it a few days ago without even mentioning doping, Wiggins exploded, called the fans cunts, wankers, and threw down the microphone and stormed out.
Edited by issoisso on 11-07-2012 17:41
The preceding post is ISSO 9001 certified
"I love him, I think he's great. He's transformed the sport in so many ways. Every person in cycling has benefitted from Lance Armstrong, perhaps not financially but in some sense" - Bradley Wiggins on Lance Armstrong
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| kumazan |
Posted on 11-07-2012 17:43
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issoisso wrote:
Then again, after Brailsford uses the death of an innocent to justify hiring a doping doctor, I'm not sure anything about this team surprises me anymore (or is "Disgusts" the word?)
Wait, what? Linky please?
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| issoisso |
Posted on 11-07-2012 17:46
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kumazan wrote:
issoisso wrote:
Then again, after Brailsford uses the death of an innocent to justify hiring a doping doctor, I'm not sure anything about this team surprises me anymore (or is "Disgusts" the word?)
Wait, what? Linky please?
Here
It's like Kimmage pointed out: When Team Sky was introduced, they spoke at length about the 4 or 5 principles they would abide by and never break. Then they found excuses to wriggle out and do the opposite of every one of them
And the result is this: Wiggins is about to win Paris-Nice, Dauphiné, Romandie and Tour de France in the same season. Eddy Merckx and Fausto Coppi couldn't do that.
That's why most of us laugh our asses off at anyone who tries to justify that as "natural progression" of a guy who just a few years ago couldn't hold on to the grupetto in a mountain stage and lost minutes in time trials
Edited by issoisso on 11-07-2012 17:55
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| kumazan |
Posted on 11-07-2012 17:55
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Holy crap. That's incredibly pathetic and disgusting.
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| marble |
Posted on 11-07-2012 18:11
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issoisso wrote:
Stijn_vranken wrote:
Sky of today = US Postal of some time ago?
Don't say that. Apparently only Wiggins is allowed to make that comparison, like he did a few weeks ago with a smile on his face.
When a journalist made it a few days ago without even mentioning doping, Wiggins exploded, called the fans cunts, wankers, and threw down the microphone and stormed out.
Didn't he say that when he was told about the doping accusations on Twitter? Pretty sure doping was mentioned in one way or another. |
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| issoisso |
Posted on 11-07-2012 18:19
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marble wrote:
issoisso wrote:
Stijn_vranken wrote:
Sky of today = US Postal of some time ago?
Don't say that. Apparently only Wiggins is allowed to make that comparison, like he did a few weeks ago with a smile on his face.
When a journalist made it a few days ago without even mentioning doping, Wiggins exploded, called the fans cunts, wankers, and threw down the microphone and stormed out.
Didn't he say that when he was told about the doping accusations on Twitter? Pretty sure doping was mentioned in one way or another.
What they showed on tv was this:
There was some chat in the twittersphere about the comparison between Sky and US Postal, I’m wondering your reaction
Then they showed Wiggins exploding.
If there was anything else before that, they didn't show it.
Edited by issoisso on 11-07-2012 18:20
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| 9-Ball |
Posted on 11-07-2012 18:28
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Another hard to watch stage, for all sorts of reasons.
The course profile itself (see my many rants on this year's very odd course).
Porte, who apparently is the new Zroome. Nibali, who apparently isn't.
Wiggins face in the last 20 meters.
Wiggins press conference performances resounding.
All the Leinders stuff - assuming you at least want your team to continue to 'appear' clean, given all the proselytism, why on earth hire someone like him? It's akin to the anti-Nazi league hiring a formerly well known and rather senior member of the Nazi party. Not to make too much of a parallel between the Nazi party and the doping infrastructure but all the same, it's a bizarre choice and another very odd piece in a puzzle.
Sigh, I don't know. Bring back Jacques and his little cigars. At least he wasn't a hypocrite.
It was eleven more than necessary.
Jacques Anquetil
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| marble |
Posted on 11-07-2012 18:41
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issoisso wrote:
marble wrote:
issoisso wrote:
Stijn_vranken wrote:
Sky of today = US Postal of some time ago?
Don't say that. Apparently only Wiggins is allowed to make that comparison, like he did a few weeks ago with a smile on his face.
When a journalist made it a few days ago without even mentioning doping, Wiggins exploded, called the fans cunts, wankers, and threw down the microphone and stormed out.
Didn't he say that when he was told about the doping accusations on Twitter? Pretty sure doping was mentioned in one way or another.
What they showed on tv was this:
There was some chat in the twittersphere about the comparison between Sky and US Postal, I’m wondering your reaction
Then they showed Wiggins exploding.
If there was anything else before that, they didn't show it.
I didn't see it on TV, but all the articles I've seen of it online put it as if he was responding to people saying on Twitter that you had to be doped to win the Tour.
"I say they're just fucking wankers. I cannot be doing with people like that.
It justifies their own bone-idleness because they can't ever imagine applying themselves to do anything in their lives.
It's easy for them to sit under a pseudonym on Twitter and write that sort of shit, rather than get off their arses in their own lives and apply themselves and work hard at something and achieve something. And that's ultimately it. Cunts." |
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