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[PCT'26] Jura GIANTS | Renewals
jt1109
Really happy to see you stuck around Fab. After our conversations last year, I knew what a difficult period it was for you, especially when multiple (people have mentioned Schmiid, but Groves was also affected) riders were suddenly less than before.

Really think there's a rider for this game version in Schmiid as the resistance still plays well it is just mainly if you want him to be a classics rider (Liege, Amstel, Lombardia and maybe another Worlds Medal) his ST has to go up again.

Wonder if youd considered turning him into a week long stage racer at any point and going up with his MO instead?

ALl in all the base of the team down a level is very good could be a fruitful season against less competition
 
Booker
Really glad to see you around Fab and looking forward to the competition in PCT!

I can't see Groves as anything other than a dominant piece in PCT, particularly with the many declines and departures from the division in the sprinting crop. Darbellay also seems like the type to overperform in a number of the hilly/TT stage races that are ever-present in HC. Castrillo just looks super cool and he'll be a fun rider once maxed.

One thing is for sure, you're starting off on such a strong footing this season that the world is your oyster for however you want to approach the year.
 
baseballlover312
Fabianski wrote:

SotD wrote:

First of all: It's really nice to see that you changed your mind and stayed in the game. You are a very valuable member of the game, so it would be extremely sad to see you leave. I had that down-period myself, and it somehow became more fun once I found a way out of it. I hope you'll have the same experience!

Renewals went well clearly. Schmid is obviously high, but he's still trainable into a leader level - or perhaps look at Aranburu for inspiration.

Thanks for the nice words Smile

Well, I did indeed follow Aranburu pretty closely. Schmid and him had some races in common, with Aranburu mostly being more successful. Which is quite logical due to his stats - what is completely off is Schmid's OVL, though. I also considered sending Schmid to the Vuelta and did quite some tests - but it turns out his skills are just a tad too low to be considered in a rather deep field. I did a test with a less crowded field, and he finished 3rd in GC... But when there are many riders with higher Hi/MM stats, he just gets ignored - which is what happened quite a lot during the season. Maybe he'd have been a good scorer in PCT, but in PT his OVL definitely doesn't reflect his scoring potential in the current version.

Or maybe Carlsberg just had more luck this year - I mean, compare Skjelmose and Darbellay, they're very, very similar (with the former being a tad stronger on shorter climbs), but the points difference is more than 300 (at least the higher OVL rider indeed scoring more here). Aranburu scored about 150 more than Schmid, so maybe I just had used up all of my luck in the three previous years Wink

I definitely intend to train Schmid, but it would take a good "sales period" to actually get there. We'll see, it will be interesting...


Just to throw in my two cents, I do think I definitely just had more luck this year. Skjelmose finding the right break and ending up top 5 in the TDF is almost all luck. No way around that. He was falling off the back and not paying any attention to GC until he hit on that break. I think with second and third tier GC guys, this game just leads to a ton of variation in GT scoring from the breakaway antics. I also planned Skjelmose to get a steady stream of white jersey points, which he won't have this year, so that's another difference between him and Darbellay last year.

Sometimes the game is just random though. Aranburu's success was almost all in stage races and primarily the Vuelta—he was even more useless than Schmid in most of the main classics, where Gregaard often outraced him with 71 hill. Even still, I don't really know why Aranburu showed up so well in the Vuelta and even seemed to get priority over guys like Valter at times. I have a feeling if you ran that race 10 times, the version we got is the only one where Aranburu scores that high. But I do think he's generally more suited to stage races with his 70 stamina, so that's the way I will probably keep planning him.

All that said, I think you've done a really great renewals, and I would be surprised if Schmid doesn't excel big time in PCT with the lighter competition and somewhat shorter races, even without training.
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Fabianski
jt1109 wrote:

Really happy to see you stuck around Fab. After our conversations last year, I knew what a difficult period it was for you, especially when multiple (people have mentioned Schmiid, but Groves was also affected) riders were suddenly less than before.

Really think there's a rider for this game version in Schmiid as the resistance still plays well it is just mainly if you want him to be a classics rider (Liege, Amstel, Lombardia and maybe another Worlds Medal) his ST has to go up again.

Wonder if youd considered turning him into a week long stage racer at any point and going up with his MO instead?

ALl in all the base of the team down a level is very good could be a fruitful season against less competition

Thanks for the kind words. Yeah, it sucks when your long-term plan around one of the potential world-class riders of your focus region go down the drain just because of a game version change... But I'll try to refocus and adapt to the new reality (that might already change again in a couple of years, who knows ^^). For Groves, yeah, the game somehow didn't consider him anymore in easy hilly stages - but I guess it's rather a stamina or flat issue, as Aniolkowski, who's weaker on the hills, worked incredibly well even in such stages ^^

I also see Schmid as a good candidate for shorter stage races. In races like Scandinavia, where every semi-capable uphill rider from PT participates, his main stats were just too low, but otherwise that would be a perfect one for him imho. The goal is to train him (it will depend on the funds what will be feasible), on one hand to bring him among PCT's top puncheurs, on the other hand to be more prepared if we should ever go back to PT. Top 10 in Grand-Duché and Top 15 in LBL show that he can definitely still do well - but sadly not as well as he could have done with the previous version...


Booker wrote:

Really glad to see you around Fab and looking forward to the competition in PCT!

I can't see Groves as anything other than a dominant piece in PCT, particularly with the many declines and departures from the division in the sprinting crop. Darbellay also seems like the type to overperform in a number of the hilly/TT stage races that are ever-present in HC. Castrillo just looks super cool and he'll be a fun rider once maxed.

One thing is for sure, you're starting off on such a strong footing this season that the world is your oyster for however you want to approach the year.

Darbellay overperforming in hilly/TT stage races? :lol: It was the complete opposite last year, he missed every single important split, even when dudes like Würtz could still keep up ^^
But yeah, maybe it will be a bit better against PCT competition, we'll see.
Groves certainly is a great rider to have in PCT, but we'll see how we can fit him in our plans. Fully agree on Castrillo though, sadly he's already too strong for C2 racing Pfft


baseballlover312 wrote:

Just to throw in my two cents, I do think I definitely just had more luck this year. Skjelmose finding the right break and ending up top 5 in the TDF is almost all luck. No way around that. He was falling off the back and not paying any attention to GC until he hit on that break. I think with second and third tier GC guys, this game just leads to a ton of variation in GT scoring from the breakaway antics. I also planned Skjelmose to get a steady stream of white jersey points, which he won't have this year, so that's another difference between him and Darbellay last year.

Sometimes the game is just random though. Aranburu's success was almost all in stage races and primarily the Vuelta—he was even more useless than Schmid in most of the main classics, where Gregaard often outraced him with 71 hill. Even still, I don't really know why Aranburu showed up so well in the Vuelta and even seemed to get priority over guys like Valter at times. I have a feeling if you ran that race 10 times, the version we got is the only one where Aranburu scores that high. But I do think he's generally more suited to stage races with his 70 stamina, so that's the way I will probably keep planning him.

All that said, I think you've done a really great renewals, and I would be surprised if Schmid doesn't excel big time in PCT with the lighter competition and somewhat shorter races, even without training.

Right, I forgot Skjelmose's U25 points. I also targetted them the year before with Schmid - sadly he got almost none ^^
I mean, Darbellay also overperformed, in particular in the Giro. Otherwise he might have scored 1/3 of Skjelmose's points - the latter definitely is a slightly better rider, but yeah, I guess you had the luck that I had the years before Wink

Hilly classics somehow are really hard to understand, no clue how Gregaard could outrace Aranburu. Or Schmid. Just no clue.
Stage races and shorter classics probably are the way to go for the likes of Aranburu or Schmid, even though I still hope that I can somehow fix the latter. Maybe he is indeed great in PCT, that would be awesome. Not for the next renewals, but for our points Grin

 
AbhishekLFC
Very good squad to make the jump back to PCT immediately. That Groves cut is excellent, while Castrillo was expected.
 
Caspi
Decent renewals. One small benefit of relegating to CT is that I don't have to get my ass kicked by Bissegger after helping to develop/train him last season Pfft
 
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