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[CT] Peugeot - Bancolombia
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| Heine |
Posted on 14-04-2026 19:50
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Important to note that we are still French, we are just registererd in Luxembourg (and going half Luxembourgian) for, ehm, not tax reason at all!
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| kandesbunzler26 |
Posted on 14-04-2026 21:31
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The real reason for leaving France (and get a Luxembourgian team, me sticking with that is the price you'll have to pay ) is obviously not (only) tax reduction, but also saving the French social security contributions as it allows to sign the riders as self-employed instead of employees - which throws another shade on this dubious move 
Spoiler And that's actually a real issue as I've learned from the Pais Vasco coverage on German Eurosport thanks to Jens Voigt.
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| Heine |
Posted on 15-04-2026 07:30
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kandesbunzler26 wrote:
The real reason for leaving France (and get a Luxembourgian team, me sticking with that is the price you'll have to pay  ) is obviously not (only) tax reduction, but also saving the French social security contributions as it allows to sign the riders as self-employed instead of employees - which throws another shade on this dubious move
Spoiler And that's actually a real issue as I've learned from the Pais Vasco coverage on German Eurosport thanks to Jens Voigt.
We deny this scandelous fake news. The reason for us to have our riders self-employed got nothing, NOTHING I say, to do with social security and saving money! This is just a rival trying to trick riders to do worse for themself!
Yes our riders will be selfemployed but it is about freedom and liberty! The chance to control their own lives and career in a much better way then being controlled by strict employment! We offer our riders the possibility to let go of the shackles that other teams put on them!
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| Jakstar22 |
Posted on 15-04-2026 08:00
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This is great reading!
Heine love what your doing with your time! As I’m sure your aware!
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| kandesbunzler26 |
Posted on 15-04-2026 08:11
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Heine wrote:
We deny this scandelous fake news. The reason for us to have our riders self-employed got nothing, NOTHING I say, to do with social security and saving money! This is just a rival trying to trick riders to do worse for themself!
Yes our riders will be selfemployed but it is about freedom and liberty! The chance to control their own lives and career in a much better way then being controlled by strict employment! We offer our riders the possibility to let go of the shackles that other teams put on them!
It's revealing that everything is about "freedom" (of social security).
There are some teams who believe in fraternity and equality as well, but you've probably never heard of those things in Luxembourg ...
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| Caspi |
Posted on 15-04-2026 11:44
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Heine wrote:
kandesbunzler26 wrote:
The real reason for leaving France (and get a Luxembourgian team, me sticking with that is the price you'll have to pay  ) is obviously not (only) tax reduction, but also saving the French social security contributions as it allows to sign the riders as self-employed instead of employees - which throws another shade on this dubious move
Spoiler And that's actually a real issue as I've learned from the Pais Vasco coverage on German Eurosport thanks to Jens Voigt.
We deny this scandelous fake news. The reason for us to have our riders self-employed got nothing, NOTHING I say, to do with social security and saving money! This is just a rival trying to trick riders to do worse for themself!
Yes our riders will be selfemployed but it is about freedom and liberty! The chance to control their own lives and career in a much better way then being controlled by strict employment! We offer our riders the possibility to let go of the shackles that other teams put on them!
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| Heine |
Posted on 16-04-2026 06:04
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kandesbunzler26 wrote:
It's revealing that everything is about "freedom" (of social security).
There are some teams who believe in fraternity and equality as well, but you've probably never heard of those things in Luxembourg ...
We are not surprised that the far-leftist radicals come here wanting us to be communists! Go pay your riders all the same wage and let them suffer the equality! We believe in quality! And are willing to pay for it!
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| kandesbunzler26 |
Posted on 16-04-2026 09:59
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So offering the statutory required social security to give our riders a pension and a safety net in case of injury is far-left communism ...
We'll see which riders will opt for "radicalism" in transfers
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| Heine |
Posted on 17-04-2026 07:04
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Of course it is communism and socialism. We leave it up to our own riders to decide how to spend their money so that they can get the most out of their career. It is up to each and everyone to decide the risk for injury and get their insurances. Why should we demand that part of their wage goes to something they might not need? No!
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